Urgent help: i have put normal water with coolant

Gurkha · 9th February 2009, 20:11

There are two marks in the coolant tank, hot and cold, so in case you need to top up, you need to do it according to engine temp, just not random, also top up should always be done with 50:50 water and coolant mix and just not water that will dilute the mix and reduce protection.

mdesai_1981 · 9th February 2009, 20:15

well everything is kind of sorted out. the cap was a little loose and say 100ml of water dilution will not make any difference . anyways thanx for the advice

Raccoon · 9th February 2009, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

There are two marks in the coolant tank, hot and cold, so in case you need to top up, you need to do it according to engine temp, just not random, also top up should always be done with 50:50 water and coolant mix and just not water that will dilute the mix and reduce protection.

Nopes... I mean at least not in my car. The markings are FULL and LOW. And the level is to be checked/topped up ONLY when engine is cool.

anupmathur · 9th February 2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Nopes... I mean at least not in my car. The markings are FULL and LOW. And the level is to be checked/topped up ONLY when engine is cool.

With the engine cold, the coolant level is to be kept at LOW, not topped up.

Gurkha · 9th February 2009, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Raccoon

Nopes... I mean at least not in my car. The markings are FULL and LOW. And the level is to be checked/topped up ONLY when engine is cool.

In that case, yes, just top it up when engine is totally cold.

anupmathur · 9th February 2009, 20:57

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

With the engine cold, the coolant level is to be kept at LOW, not topped up.

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

In that case, yes, just top it up when engine is totally cold.

Ah ah, there's scope for confusion here!
The FULL mark should be about halfway up the bottle. In such a case you might need to fill upto the Full mark with cold engine. If the full mark is more than halfway up, coolant will overflow with the engine at operating temperature.
LOL, what does the owner's manual say?

Raccoon · 9th February 2009, 21:09

^^^I am echoing exactly what the manual says! And that is - maintain coolant between FULL and LOW... and check this when the engine is cold.

And I think the mark is above the halfway mark... but not sure. Will check this soon.

Gurkha · 9th February 2009, 22:01

When the coolant expansion tank is filled to the cold mark with the engine cold, it will go up the cold mark when the engine comes to running temperature, however, it won't overflow.

Raccoon · 9th February 2009, 23:07

Sorry, what I said in the last post is a bit incomplete. It should be:

Maintain coolant between FULL and LOW. Check only when engine is cold and top-up to the FULL mark.

binoyjude · 7th April 2009, 02:26

Hey,my service guy just filled up fully with Non-Amine collant.Its blue in colour.NO water was added.Is that fine?

R2D2 · 7th April 2009, 23:44

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Originally Posted by binoyjude

Hey,my service guy just filled up fully with Non-Amine collant.Its blue in colour.NO water was added.Is that fine?

Check the container. If it says 'pre-mix' you dont need to add water. If it is concentrate then you need to dilute it in the ratio recommended by your car's mfrs OR as a second choice the coolant mfr. Normal dilution ratio is 1:2 i.e. 1 part coolant to 2 of water OR 1:1.

If your mechanic added concentrate without diluting it then it was a bad idea. Just add some water to the expansion bottle but never exceed the Max mark (cold engine) . Also, use clean drinking water or better still distilled water for dilution.

Rgds,

dadu · 8th April 2009, 16:08

Highest boiling and lowest freezing point is achieved by using a ratio of 70:30 (coolant: water). If its not premixed one.

anupmathur · 8th April 2009, 18:23

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Originally Posted by dadu

Highest boiling and lowest freezing point is achieved by using a ratio of 70:30 (coolant: water).

Not really. 80-20 would give higher boiling point and lower freezing point!

amitk26 · 8th April 2009, 18:27

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

Not really. 80-20 would give higher boiling point and lower freezing point!

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Originally Posted by dadu

Highest boiling and lowest freezing point is achieved by using a ratio of 70:30 (coolant: water). If its not premixed one.

Classic clash of titans

awaiting links and citations for claims and counter claims.

dadu · 9th April 2009, 17:49

There is no clash only a splash

link from a Mfg, read Ans A and Ans I (click ont the chart link)

Just search and you will find many more.

9th February 2009, 20:11	#91
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	There are two marks in the coolant tank, hot and cold, so in case you need to top up, you need to do it according to engine temp, just not random, also top up should always be done with 50:50 water and coolant mix and just not water that will dilute the mix and reduce protection.
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9th February 2009, 20:15	#92
mdesai_1981 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 188 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	well everything is kind of sorted out. the cap was a little loose and say 100ml of water dilution will not make any difference . anyways thanx for the advice
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Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^I am echoing exactly what the manual says! And that is - maintain coolant between FULL and LOW... and check this when the engine is cold. And I think the mark is above the halfway mark... but not sure. Will check this soon.
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9th February 2009, 22:01	#98
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	When the coolant expansion tank is filled to the cold mark with the engine cold, it will go up the cold mark when the engine comes to running temperature, however, it won't overflow.
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9th February 2009, 23:07	#99
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Sorry, what I said in the last post is a bit incomplete. It should be: Maintain coolant between FULL and LOW. Check only when engine is cold and top-up to the FULL mark.
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7th April 2009, 02:26	#100
binoyjude BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New delhi Posts: 59 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey,my service guy just filled up fully with Non-Amine collant.Its blue in colour.NO water was added.Is that fine?
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dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	Highest boiling and lowest freezing point is achieved by using a ratio of 70:30 (coolant: water). If its not premixed one.
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9th April 2009, 17:49	#105
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	There is no clash only a splash link from a Mfg, read Ans A and Ans I (click ont the chart link) Just search and you will find many more. Last edited by dadu : 9th April 2009 at 17:53.
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