Santro power steering problem & timing belt prob

coolmob · 14th November 2008, 01:27

my santro has run around 65000kms till date. i gave it for routine servicing yesterday to a hyundai A**.

the service guy said that since the hyundai recommends changing of timing belt between 60000kms and 80000kms i can run the original factory fitted belt till another service around 65000-68000kms. but iuse in my car daily with running of around 150-200kms.

second he showed me under the car that there is very little power steering fuild leakage. he said that since my santro xing 2004 model has a "sona steering" which is discountinued by hyundai, they cant just change the power steering seal and i will have to get the whole steering changed to a new one. so i should keep using the current steering till i can use the leak dosent get major.

so i want to ask if i should wait for the next service or get my timing belt and steering changed right now??? and can a after market seal work with the steering i have in my car??

aka_iitd · 14th November 2008, 09:36

Just check with another A** about the seal. I doubt abt this. I had this problem in my santro which was 2000 model and they had all parts one year ago !

Shashank.A · 14th November 2008, 11:07

Try and look at spare parts shops for steering parts. Sona Steering is a major company and even if Hyundai is not using their parts any longer, I am sure they have aftermarket supplies.

deky · 14th November 2008, 13:11

I had the timing belt changed for my santro 2003 model after it did 65000kms. Infact I felt the need to change it only after the peculiar screetching sound came when cranking the engine or starting off in the 1st gear.

IMO as soon as the sound starts coming you should go in for the change as the rubber gets brittle hence the sound.

coolmob · 14th November 2008, 23:44

even ive read somewhere that car manufacturers are required to provide spare pars to cars till 10 years after discontinuing a specific model and in this case the santro is still in production ans soo many of them on road hyundai must have some back up.

well i'll take it to some other A.S.S. and see what they say.

GTO · 15th November 2008, 13:23

I'd feel comfortably changing the timing belt anywhere between 65 - 70K on a Santro. Please have it replaced with a new one right away.

WRT the power steering seal : You will get solutions by the dozen in the aftermarket. Won't be too difficult to source a seal. Changing the entire assembly for one is ridiculous and I am surprised that the advisor actually suggested that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolmob

my santro has run around 65000kms till date. i gave it for routine servicing yesterday to a hyundai A**.

the service guy said that since the hyundai recommends changing of timing belt between 60000kms and 80000kms i can run the original factory fitted belt till another service around 65000-68000kms. but iuse in my car daily with running of around 150-200kms.

second he showed me under the car that there is very little power steering fuild leakage. he said that since my santro xing 2004 model has a "sona steering" which is discountinued by hyundai, they cant just change the power steering seal and i will have to get the whole steering changed to a new one. so i should keep using the current steering till i can use the leak dosent get major.

so i want to ask if i should wait for the next service or get my timing belt and steering changed right now??? and can a after market seal work with the steering i have in my car??

SirAlec · 16th November 2008, 00:19

You are in delhi right, that gives you a million options. get it checked ouside of Autorised SS.
Santo has hydraulic steering, leakage can be from anywhere, even from the resevour bottle. Its ridiculous that hyundai people suggested to change the whole system.

yatinchoubal · 25th February 2009, 11:53

Hi Guys,
I m having a Santro Xing. Few months back, I took off the Stock steering and replaced with a smaller, F1 Sports edition steering wheel. (Just like a momo)
I have installed it with Hub.
Now after i have fitted it, the steering has become more hard (Read. as if non power steering).
Can you tell me why is this problem?

SirAlec · 25th February 2009, 23:40

changing the streeing wheel does not make it hard. Its something else.

check oil level, any sign of leakage.

PS: does it make any kind of sound.

yatinchoubal · 25th February 2009, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirAlec

changing the streeing wheel does not make it hard. Its something else.

check oil level, any sign of leakage.

PS: does it make any kind of sound.

I have checked the oil level and its correct. no signs of leakage either.. what should I do more to diagonse this problem?

KSM-Vtec · 25th February 2009, 23:49

well it depends on how you look at it. some people get their issues fixed just when they appear and some wait for the last moment.

not sure about the timing belt but the power steering is something which can create major issues if not attended to in the initial stage. first i would suggest ask some other mechanics and santro owners if that is true.

Astleviz · 4th August 2013, 12:58

Dad's santro has started making a screeching sound when started so guess it's time for a timing belt change. Any idea how much does it cost to replace the same at an authorized centre?

vigsom · 4th August 2013, 20:30

^^ this is a symptom of a slipping water pump/ac belt ; please have it replaced.

Replacement plus labour should be less than INR600 if done at a private garage.

joybhowmik · 7th April 2014, 10:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

I'd feel comfortably changing the timing belt anywhere between 65 - 70K on a Santro. Please have it replaced with a new one right away.

Sorry to bump up an old thread.. but here's something from the manual
For a Santro:
Mandatory replacement of camshaft timing belt @ 80 K km or multiples thereof.
Under special conditions (see list below) - replace the timing belt @ 60 K km or multiples thereof.
a) Driving in areas using salt or other corrosive materials or in very cold weather
b) Driving in sandy areas
c) More than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hot weather above 42ºC
d) Driving in mountainous areas.

joybhowmik · 11th April 2014, 18:57

Dear friends
My Santro 2003 AT steering had become quite hard.
Power steering fluid levels were okay when I checked but the colour was almost light red/brown after years of use. Also there used to be the faintest of noise from the steering when turning the wheel. Noise can best be described as two metal parts lightly rubbing against each other.

I went to the FNG today, and asked him to change the power steering fluid.

As expected the steering feels a little easier to turn, but it's not the near zero effort feeling that I used to get when the car was newer.
The FNG feels this is likely due to worn out shocker bearing or possibly a jammed shocker ball joint.
Are there any other likely causes?

14th November 2008, 01:27	#1
coolmob BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 58 Thanked: 102 Times	Santro power steering problem & timing belt prob my santro has run around 65000kms till date. i gave it for routine servicing yesterday to a hyundai A**. the service guy said that since the hyundai recommends changing of timing belt between 60000kms and 80000kms i can run the original factory fitted belt till another service around 65000-68000kms. but iuse in my car daily with running of around 150-200kms. second he showed me under the car that there is very little power steering fuild leakage. he said that since my santro xing 2004 model has a "sona steering" which is discountinued by hyundai, they cant just change the power steering seal and i will have to get the whole steering changed to a new one. so i should keep using the current steering till i can use the leak dosent get major. so i want to ask if i should wait for the next service or get my timing belt and steering changed right now??? and can a after market seal work with the steering i have in my car??
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14th November 2008, 09:36	#2
aka_iitd BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 637 Thanked: 52 Times	Just check with another A** about the seal. I doubt abt this. I had this problem in my santro which was 2000 model and they had all parts one year ago !
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14th November 2008, 11:07	#3
Shashank.A BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 484 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Try and look at spare parts shops for steering parts. Sona Steering is a major company and even if Hyundai is not using their parts any longer, I am sure they have aftermarket supplies.
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14th November 2008, 13:11	#4
deky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,194 Thanked: 1,251 Times	I had the timing belt changed for my santro 2003 model after it did 65000kms. Infact I felt the need to change it only after the peculiar screetching sound came when cranking the engine or starting off in the 1st gear. IMO as soon as the sound starts coming you should go in for the change as the rubber gets brittle hence the sound.
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14th November 2008, 23:44	#5
coolmob BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 58 Thanked: 102 Times	even ive read somewhere that car manufacturers are required to provide spare pars to cars till 10 years after discontinuing a specific model and in this case the santro is still in production ans soo many of them on road hyundai must have some back up. well i'll take it to some other A.S.S. and see what they say.
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16th November 2008, 00:19	#7
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,395 Thanked: 727 Times	You are in delhi right, that gives you a million options. get it checked ouside of Autorised SS. Santo has hydraulic steering, leakage can be from anywhere, even from the resevour bottle. Its ridiculous that hyundai people suggested to change the whole system.
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25th February 2009, 11:53	#8
yatinchoubal BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas / Pune Posts: 144 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Hi Guys, I m having a Santro Xing. Few months back, I took off the Stock steering and replaced with a smaller, F1 Sports edition steering wheel. (Just like a momo) I have installed it with Hub. Now after i have fitted it, the steering has become more hard (Read. as if non power steering). Can you tell me why is this problem?
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25th February 2009, 23:40	#9
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,395 Thanked: 727 Times	changing the streeing wheel does not make it hard. Its something else. check oil level, any sign of leakage. PS: does it make any kind of sound.
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25th February 2009, 23:49	#11
KSM-Vtec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MH-02-India-Bombay-Bandra Posts: 1,561 Thanked: 447 Times View My Garage	well it depends on how you look at it. some people get their issues fixed just when they appear and some wait for the last moment. not sure about the timing belt but the power steering is something which can create major issues if not attended to in the initial stage. first i would suggest ask some other mechanics and santro owners if that is true.
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4th August 2013, 12:58	#12
Astleviz BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Panjim, Goa Posts: 370 Thanked: 175 Times	Re: Santro power steering problem & timing belt prob Dad's santro has started making a screeching sound when started so guess it's time for a timing belt change. Any idea how much does it cost to replace the same at an authorized centre?
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4th August 2013, 20:30	#13
vigsom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NSEW Posts: 4,022 Thanked: 30,025 Times	Re: Santro power steering problem & timing belt prob ^^ this is a symptom of a slipping water pump/ac belt ; please have it replaced. Replacement plus labour should be less than INR600 if done at a private garage.
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11th April 2014, 18:57	#15
joybhowmik Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,467 Thanked: 2,582 Times	Re: Santro power steering problem & timing belt prob Dear friends My Santro 2003 AT steering had become quite hard. Power steering fluid levels were okay when I checked but the colour was almost light red/brown after years of use. Also there used to be the faintest of noise from the steering when turning the wheel. Noise can best be described as two metal parts lightly rubbing against each other. I went to the FNG today, and asked him to change the power steering fluid. As expected the steering feels a little easier to turn, but it's not the near zero effort feeling that I used to get when the car was newer. The FNG feels this is likely due to worn out shocker bearing or possibly a jammed shocker ball joint. Are there any other likely causes? Last edited by joybhowmik : 11th April 2014 at 18:59.
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