Fitness certificate for a 2 year old Alto?

panks15 · 3rd February 2009, 17:45

Hi,

It happened last week when I was stopped by RTO while travelling to Nagpur from Mumbai in my 2 yrs old Alto.

All the general checking of papers was done (RC, Insurance, License and PUC). Later I was told that my car did not had the fitness certificate (FC) and the fine for the same is Rs.3500/-. I did not know the funda of FC and the officer was not ready to budge.

Later as it happens in India after much of haggling he bargained and fixed the deal at Rs.1000/-

All said and done now, I was searching for what the FC is and why is it needed in a 2yrs old Alto? Could not find much so need the help of the fellow TBHP members regarding FC.

Thanks and Regards,
Pankaj

star_aqua · 3rd February 2009, 19:23

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Originally Posted by panks15

Hi,

It happened last week when I was stopped by RTO while travelling to Nagpur from Mumbai in my 2 yrs old Alto.

All the general checking of papers was done (RC, Insurance, License and PUC). Later I was told that my car did not had the fitness certificate (FC) and the fine for the same is Rs.3500/-. I did not know the funda of FC and the officer was not ready to budge.

Later as it happens in India after much of haggling he bargained and fixed the deal at Rs.1000/-

All said and done now, I was searching for what the FC is and why is it needed in a 2yrs old Alto? Could not find much so need the help of the fellow TBHP members regarding FC.

Thanks and Regards,
Pankaj

Were they real RTO guys??? The question of FC comes only for 15 years old vehicles. FC aka Fitness certificate is issued for the vehicles which are above 15 years old. The RC is valid for initial 15 years and it needs renewal after 15 years and then onwards every 5 years. this period varies from state to state. During the renewal process your vehicle will checked by the RTO and FC will be issued only if the vehicle is fit for using it. which means it will be checked for brakes, smoke, tail lamps, rear view mirror, etc a complete working condition of the vehicle.

Tejas@perioimpl · 3rd February 2009, 19:57

I agree with what star_aqua said; you have been taken for a ride IMO.

sammyboy · 3rd February 2009, 20:00

You have to really admire the new jargon which our officials can come up with to fleece us. Imagine asking a fitness cert. for a 2 year old Alto. Well Pankaj, you live and you learn. Now we know what these guys can try to fine us for if everything else is in order.

nitrous · 3rd February 2009, 20:52

Are you sure its FC? Or was it PUC?

Tejas@perioimpl · 3rd February 2009, 20:59

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Are you sure its FC? Or was it PUC?

He mentioned PUC in his first post...

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All the general checking of papers was done (RC, Insurance, License and PUC). Later I was told that my car did not had the fitness certificate (FC)....

I have many times seen such things happening in new bombay... fake octroi and RTO guys stopping trucks and they run as soon as they spot a police patrol jeep coming their way...

They usual don't wear a full uniform, just khakhi pants and socks with black shoes and a white untucked shirt. They also ride an enfield or bullet or sometimes a sumo. And carry a whistle and police style lathi.
Best way to make these guys out is to check their shoes... they are almost never polished and you will never find a cop with dirty shoes (ofcourse little dirt will be there from usage, but they would be polished everyday).
Asking for an ID is practically useless since none of use are trained to spot a fake id anyways.

SirAlec · 3rd February 2009, 21:00

fitness certificate is mostly necessary only for TAXI permit/regn vehicle only. atleast in Rajasthan, Gujarat and West Bengal.

gd1418 · 3rd February 2009, 21:14

When in doubt, call the police - dial 100. Has always worked for me in such situations. The road blocks, manning personnel have vamoosed in no time at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by panks15

Hi,

It happened last week when I was stopped by RTO while travelling to Nagpur from Mumbai in my 2 yrs old Alto.

All the general checking of papers was done (RC, Insurance, License and PUC). Later I was told that my car did not had the fitness certificate (FC) and the fine for the same is Rs.3500/-. I did not know the funda of FC and the officer was not ready to budge.

Later as it happens in India after much of haggling he bargained and fixed the deal at Rs.1000/-

All said and done now, I was searching for what the FC is and why is it needed in a 2yrs old Alto? Could not find much so need the help of the fellow TBHP members regarding FC.

Thanks and Regards,
Pankaj

Blue Thunder · 4th February 2009, 00:52

Fitness certificate is a regular (annual?) affair only for commercial (T-board) vehicles. For private vehicles, as mentioned above, it is required to be renewed after 15 years (the RC book doubles as the FC for private vehicles, I think).

amit_mechengg · 4th February 2009, 12:08

i think the police werent mentally FIT, thats why they were asking you FC. the other possibility is that they are highway looters who loot truck walas by pretending that they are POLICE. they have mugged up few words like PUC, License, Permit, FC etc which apply to old trucks and other permit vehicles.
thank god he didnt ask you permit for moving from nagpur to mumbai.

gd1418 · 4th February 2009, 12:47

Amit, I think Pankaj mentioned RTO and not the Police....

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Originally Posted by amit_mechengg

i think the police werent mentally FIT, thats why they were asking you FC. the other possibility is that they are highway looters who loot truck walas by pretending that they are POLICE. they have mugged up few words like PUC, License, Permit, FC etc which apply to old trucks and other permit vehicles.
thank god he didnt ask you permit for moving from nagpur to mumbai.

shabahmad · 4th February 2009, 13:19

pankaj, where this incident happened. I mean these RTO official have stopped you in city or on highway.

I also went to nagpur via pune, Aurangabad, Wardha but didnt face this problem.

Please let me know about it as i have to go to nagpur in next few weeks.
Mine is also a MH03 registered vehicle but 1.5 yrs old.

vedagiri1983 · 4th February 2009, 18:37

One thing I can do about this matter is to laugh..I have am sure that they were just expecting some bribe..usually when everything is fine with doc's they start with the sticker that has to cover half the headlight ,mirrors, etc etc

panks15 · 4th February 2009, 20:29

Guys they were in uniform and were having a police qualis with them.

They were checking all the truck and trailors but it might be simply bad luck or the MH 04 number which made them stopped my vehicle.

But the way they bargained was the most amazing part. it was like if you want the receipt fine would be Rs. 3500/, then came 3000, then 2,500, then 2,000 and at 1500 he said "is se kam nahi hoga aage bhi dena padta hai."

But then some miracle happened and his heart was soft and he settled at 1,000.

I have been driving my other zen in and out of mumbai, pune, daman and nashik but nothing like that had happened.

Tejas@perioimpl · 4th February 2009, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by panks15

Guys they were in uniform and were having a police qualis with them.

They were checking all the truck and trailors but it might be simply bad luck or the MH 04 number which made them stopped my vehicle.

But the way they bargained was the most amazing part. it was like if you want the receipt fine would be Rs. 3500/, then came 3000, then 2,500, then 2,000 and at 1500 he said "is se kam nahi hoga aage bhi dena padta hai."

But then some miracle happened and his heart was soft and he settled at 1,000.

If you got the name of the cop or the number of the qualis or even a receipt, you should lodge a police complaint.

3rd February 2009, 17:45	#1
panks15 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 52 Thanked: 0 Times	Fitness certificate for a 2 year old Alto? Hi, It happened last week when I was stopped by RTO while travelling to Nagpur from Mumbai in my 2 yrs old Alto. All the general checking of papers was done (RC, Insurance, License and PUC). Later I was told that my car did not had the fitness certificate (FC) and the fine for the same is Rs.3500/-. I did not know the funda of FC and the officer was not ready to budge. Later as it happens in India after much of haggling he bargained and fixed the deal at Rs.1000/- All said and done now, I was searching for what the FC is and why is it needed in a 2yrs old Alto? Could not find much so need the help of the fellow TBHP members regarding FC. Thanks and Regards, Pankaj
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3rd February 2009, 19:57	#3
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	I agree with what star_aqua said; you have been taken for a ride IMO.
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3rd February 2009, 20:00	#4
sammyboy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ggn/Dehradun Posts: 1,842 Thanked: 521 Times View My Garage	You have to really admire the new jargon which our officials can come up with to fleece us. Imagine asking a fitness cert. for a 2 year old Alto. Well Pankaj, you live and you learn. Now we know what these guys can try to fine us for if everything else is in order.
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3rd February 2009, 20:52	#5
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Are you sure its FC? Or was it PUC?
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3rd February 2009, 21:00	#7
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	fitness certificate is mostly necessary only for TAXI permit/regn vehicle only. atleast in Rajasthan, Gujarat and West Bengal.
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4th February 2009, 00:52	#9
Blue Thunder Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Right here . Posts: 1,657 Thanked: 386 Times View My Garage	Fitness certificate is a regular (annual?) affair only for commercial (T-board) vehicles. For private vehicles, as mentioned above, it is required to be renewed after 15 years (the RC book doubles as the FC for private vehicles, I think).
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4th February 2009, 12:08	#10
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,487 Thanked: 2,251 Times View My Garage	i think the police werent mentally FIT, thats why they were asking you FC. the other possibility is that they are highway looters who loot truck walas by pretending that they are POLICE. they have mugged up few words like PUC, License, Permit, FC etc which apply to old trucks and other permit vehicles. thank god he didnt ask you permit for moving from nagpur to mumbai.
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4th February 2009, 13:19	#12
shabahmad BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 270 Thanked: 21 Times	Where this incident happened pankaj, where this incident happened. I mean these RTO official have stopped you in city or on highway. I also went to nagpur via pune, Aurangabad, Wardha but didnt face this problem. Please let me know about it as i have to go to nagpur in next few weeks. Mine is also a MH03 registered vehicle but 1.5 yrs old.
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4th February 2009, 18:37	#13
vedagiri1983 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 15 Thanked: 0 Times	One thing I can do about this matter is to laugh..I have am sure that they were just expecting some bribe..usually when everything is fine with doc's they start with the sticker that has to cover half the headlight ,mirrors, etc etc
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4th February 2009, 20:29	#14
panks15 BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 52 Thanked: 0 Times	Guys they were in uniform and were having a police qualis with them. They were checking all the truck and trailors but it might be simply bad luck or the MH 04 number which made them stopped my vehicle. But the way they bargained was the most amazing part. it was like if you want the receipt fine would be Rs. 3500/, then came 3000, then 2,500, then 2,000 and at 1500 he said "is se kam nahi hoga aage bhi dena padta hai." But then some miracle happened and his heart was soft and he settled at 1,000. I have been driving my other zen in and out of mumbai, pune, daman and nashik but nothing like that had happened.
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