OHC 1.5 40K service questions

RedOne · 1st June 2005, 11:40

Greets all.

I have a 2001 City 1.5 and is due for my 40K service at TVS Chennai. I have constantly had problems with them not doing items in the checklist as provided in the service (user) manual. Some I could not check (like check plug gap, brake pads etc) but some I could (rotate tyres etc). I am worried that they just do an oil change / water service and call it done, and I wouldn't know the difference.

I have had numerous fights with them on this using the checklist as a reference, so conveniently, during my last service, they "mispalced" my service manual. I want to get a full 40K service done, so could anyone with a manual send me the list of items to be checked/changed at 40K? Any way I can get another service manual?

Has anyone else here faced these problems (hope not) or is it a TVS speciality?

Thanks in advance.

Gears,
Red-One

Surprise · 1st June 2005, 17:09

Its a news to me that we need to cross check with the checklist while giving it to service. We have one registered in our company name, just we will send it for service for every 5000 kms or 6 months whichever is earlier & take it back from them.

I will try to locate the book and send it to you.

In general, I heard that TVS is very expensive, but upto my knowledge our city did not cause any major trouble ( may be our accounts person would know the real story)

Shan2nu · 1st June 2005, 18:14

Don't worry pal. here's my Vtec's 40K service bill. You can, not just see the particulars they've replaced but, also the prices.

Particulars will be exactly the same between the 1.5 and the Vtec, could be a slight diff here and there.

Shan2nu

Shan2nu · 1st June 2005, 18:21

Wierd thing is that after the spark plug chance, the car's response wasn't much for some time. It took it almost 2-3 days before it got back to it's usualy functioning.

So, don't be too alarmed if you find the car to be a bit sluggish in the higher rpms.

Shan2nu

EVO6 · 1st June 2005, 18:24

Wow thats it ...
Thats the bill for 40K service ...
Man the oil change in the Skoda is more expensive that that...

Anyways they use Mobil No. 1 thats the reason ..

deepakhon · 1st June 2005, 18:27

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Originally Posted by EVO6

Wow thats it ...
Thats the bill for 40K service ...
Man the oil change in the Skoda is more expensive that that...

Anyways they use Mobil No. 1 thats the reason ..

they import it from france i guess. one of my colleagues owns an octi and he says that the "free service" costs him more than 5k

RedOne · 2nd June 2005, 09:30

Thanks guys.

Shan2nu, apart from the "replace" list, I am worried about the "check" items. You know, things like Check clutch plate play, Check brake pad wear, check and clean throttle bodies etc. If I have that list, I can at least threaten the service manager that I am going to cross check all the items.

Now, if only I could device a way to check whether they really do all the stuff. Does anyone recommend going with the list to a reputed private shop (Like Kamalesh Patel's Electra) and getting the car serviced there?

Gears.
Red-One

Shan2nu · 2nd June 2005, 09:53

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Now, if only I could device a way to check whether they really do all the stuff

Well, you gotta have some faith in them. Atleast for me, i got to sit right next to the car while it got serviced.

Shan2nu

Surprise · 2nd June 2005, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Well, you gotta have some faith in them.

Our HONDA 1.5 is a company maintained one. In line with this topic, Iam interested in finding out how much they charged for our HONDA 40K service.

They had charged us Rs.12k. When enquired with our accounts dept, it seems we were told that they need to open the engine for 40K service and also for 80K service.

Its almost double the cost of Shanu's 40K service. I will attach a scanned copy of the bill tomorrow.

Redone: Pls enquire them before hand how much the approximate bill would be

Shan2nu · 2nd June 2005, 18:46

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They had charged us Rs.12k.

Unless the car's clutch or some assembly needed to be replaced, there is now way it can cost that much.

Quote:

When enquired with our accounts dept, it seems we were told that they need to open the engine for 40K service and also for 80K service.

The only thing they need to do to the engine is replace the spark plugs and change the engine oil. No need to open up the engine at all.

There was another City 1.5 that day which had come for it's 60K service, owner got a bill for 11K but, he had the car's brake pads and clutch replaced so, that's acceptable.

Regular services are damn cheap, the 45K service cost us around 1,092 bucks. Best part is that they always tell me that it might cost around 1500 but it never reaches that amount. It's always between 1000-1300.

Shan2nu

nitrous · 3rd June 2005, 12:59

RedOne, i advice u to go to Kamlesh Patel's Electra. They'll guide u well and if u don't know anyone there personally... PM me. i can help u.
They've got the best expertise in the city.

What can't they do if they can build an EVO6 out of a normal lancer and make it do the best quarter mile time in SpeedRun history.

RedOne · 3rd June 2005, 13:49

Hey Nitrous, I know Kamalesh Patel personally, so no issues. He had given me the dope on the Evo6 conversion. Haven't seen the car though.

Shan2nu, I got the quote from TVS just now:

Parts
------
Eng oil: 444
oil filter: 136
set fuel comp: 738
air filter: 335
brake oil: 595
tranny fluid: 322
p steering fl: 213
radiator fluid : 1200 (4 litres ???)
o rings: 300
plugs 792
Misc: 200
choke/carb cleaner: 350
body flex gel: 127
fuel treatment: 481
oct booster: 480
engine flush: 461
engine protector: 480

Labour
--------
chk up: 1300
replace brake oil: 500
replace spark plugs: 500 (!!)
clean injectors: 500
align wheel: 500
balance wheel: 675
replace p steering oil: 250

Total 12-13000.00

There must be a lot of difference in how they do a service in Chennai and Bangalore (I presume)!

Gears,
Red-One.

iceman91 · 3rd June 2005, 19:06

man red one for those prices drop the car off with me...will do it myself!!!!

thats a rip off!!! why the fuel treatment and octane booster you dont need it.
also if geting engine flush done..why engine protectant???
your car does not have a carb and it has a SINGLE throttle body..
other than 500 for the injector cleaner none of those prices are justified!!!!

Shan2nu · 3rd June 2005, 20:25

Boy they sure do a lot of servicing in Chennai, a bit more than required. BTW, i got my service done by the Mlore dealership.

Radiator holds 4 ltrs of fluid?
Octane booster?????
Fuel treatment??????? What r they gonna test the fuel in your tank and treat it? LOL
Choke/carb cleaner???? Didn't know OHC's had a choke.

What a con job dude, they're charging you 595 for the brake fluid and 500 for replacing it.

500 bucks to replace 4 freaking plugs?????

Forget wheel balancing and wheel allignment, you can pretty well get both done outside for 300-400 bucks.

U know what, i'm gonna call up the Mlore guys and ask them if all these things are supposed to be done.

Don't get your car serviced in a hurry. I'm sure this bill can be brought down by a large margin.

Shan2nu

Surprise · 6th June 2005, 15:52

This is what the bill we got for the 40k kms service from Sundaram Honda

Carrying out 40000 kms check up: Rs.1300.00
Cleaned IAC Valves : Rs. 475.00
Cleaned Injectors : Rs. 600.00
Blow, Clean, Bleed Brake System
& exam INE rear brake : Rs. 450.00
Changed Power steering oil : Rs. 250.00
Applied Interior cleaning : Rs.1300.00
Service Tax ( Rs.4375/-) : Rs. 350.00

Total -1 : Rs.4725

O ring - Rs.78.70
Element Assy, Air - Rs.298.44
O-ring 7.3 x 2.2 - Rs.181.28
Washer Drain - Rs. 16.70
Spark Plug - Rs. 708.00
Set, Fuel Strn Com - Rs.704.00
Set pad FR (15 cl) - Rs.2975.00
Manual Transmission oil - Rs.324.00
Power Steering Fluid - Rs.251.86
Brake Fluid -Rs.566.98
KORO coolant - Rs.239.85
3M choke and Carb cleaner- Rs.198.85
Tyre Dresser - Rs.20.43
Body Flex Gel - Rs.130.18
Taxes - Rs.702.54

Total - 2 - Rs. 7397.00

Grand Total - Rs.12122

1st June 2005, 11:40	#1
RedOne BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 338 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	OHC 1.5 40K service questions Greets all. I have a 2001 City 1.5 and is due for my 40K service at TVS Chennai. I have constantly had problems with them not doing items in the checklist as provided in the service (user) manual. Some I could not check (like check plug gap, brake pads etc) but some I could (rotate tyres etc). I am worried that they just do an oil change / water service and call it done, and I wouldn't know the difference. I have had numerous fights with them on this using the checklist as a reference, so conveniently, during my last service, they "mispalced" my service manual. I want to get a full 40K service done, so could anyone with a manual send me the list of items to be checked/changed at 40K? Any way I can get another service manual? Has anyone else here faced these problems (hope not) or is it a TVS speciality? Thanks in advance. Gears, Red-One
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1st June 2005, 17:09	#2
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,523 Thanked: 454 Times	Its a news to me that we need to cross check with the checklist while giving it to service. We have one registered in our company name, just we will send it for service for every 5000 kms or 6 months whichever is earlier & take it back from them. I will try to locate the book and send it to you. In general, I heard that TVS is very expensive, but upto my knowledge our city did not cause any major trouble ( may be our accounts person would know the real story)
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1st June 2005, 18:14	#3
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Don't worry pal. here's my Vtec's 40K service bill. You can, not just see the particulars they've replaced but, also the prices. Particulars will be exactly the same between the 1.5 and the Vtec, could be a slight diff here and there. Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 1st June 2005 at 18:16.
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1st June 2005, 18:21	#4
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Wierd thing is that after the spark plug chance, the car's response wasn't much for some time. It took it almost 2-3 days before it got back to it's usualy functioning. So, don't be too alarmed if you find the car to be a bit sluggish in the higher rpms. Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 2nd June 2005 at 09:50.
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1st June 2005, 18:24	#5
EVO6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 488 Thanked: 11 Times	Wow thats it ... Thats the bill for 40K service ... Man the oil change in the Skoda is more expensive that that... Anyways they use Mobil No. 1 thats the reason ..
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2nd June 2005, 09:30	#7
RedOne BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 338 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Thanks guys. Shan2nu, apart from the "replace" list, I am worried about the "check" items. You know, things like Check clutch plate play, Check brake pad wear, check and clean throttle bodies etc. If I have that list, I can at least threaten the service manager that I am going to cross check all the items. Now, if only I could device a way to check whether they really do all the stuff. Does anyone recommend going with the list to a reputed private shop (Like Kamalesh Patel's Electra) and getting the car serviced there? Gears. Red-One
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3rd June 2005, 12:59	#11
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	RedOne, i advice u to go to Kamlesh Patel's Electra. They'll guide u well and if u don't know anyone there personally... PM me. i can help u. They've got the best expertise in the city. What can't they do if they can build an EVO6 out of a normal lancer and make it do the best quarter mile time in SpeedRun history.
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3rd June 2005, 13:49	#12
RedOne BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 338 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Hey Nitrous, I know Kamalesh Patel personally, so no issues. He had given me the dope on the Evo6 conversion. Haven't seen the car though. Shan2nu, I got the quote from TVS just now: Parts ------ Eng oil: 444 oil filter: 136 set fuel comp: 738 air filter: 335 brake oil: 595 tranny fluid: 322 p steering fl: 213 radiator fluid : 1200 (4 litres ???) o rings: 300 plugs 792 Misc: 200 choke/carb cleaner: 350 body flex gel: 127 fuel treatment: 481 oct booster: 480 engine flush: 461 engine protector: 480 Labour -------- chk up: 1300 replace brake oil: 500 replace spark plugs: 500 (!!) clean injectors: 500 align wheel: 500 balance wheel: 675 replace p steering oil: 250 Total 12-13000.00 There must be a lot of difference in how they do a service in Chennai and Bangalore (I presume)! Gears, Red-One. Last edited by RedOne : 3rd June 2005 at 13:59.
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3rd June 2005, 19:06	#13
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	man red one for those prices drop the car off with me...will do it myself!!!! thats a rip off!!! why the fuel treatment and octane booster you dont need it. also if geting engine flush done..why engine protectant??? your car does not have a carb and it has a SINGLE throttle body.. other than 500 for the injector cleaner none of those prices are justified!!!!
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3rd June 2005, 20:25	#14
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Boy they sure do a lot of servicing in Chennai, a bit more than required. BTW, i got my service done by the Mlore dealership. Radiator holds 4 ltrs of fluid? Octane booster????? Fuel treatment??????? What r they gonna test the fuel in your tank and treat it? LOL Choke/carb cleaner???? Didn't know OHC's had a choke. What a con job dude, they're charging you 595 for the brake fluid and 500 for replacing it. 500 bucks to replace 4 freaking plugs????? Forget wheel balancing and wheel allignment, you can pretty well get both done outside for 300-400 bucks. U know what, i'm gonna call up the Mlore guys and ask them if all these things are supposed to be done. Don't get your car serviced in a hurry. I'm sure this bill can be brought down by a large margin. Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 3rd June 2005 at 20:31.
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6th June 2005, 15:52	#15
Surprise Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,523 Thanked: 454 Times	This is what the bill we got for the 40k kms service from Sundaram Honda Carrying out 40000 kms check up: Rs.1300.00 Cleaned IAC Valves : Rs. 475.00 Cleaned Injectors : Rs. 600.00 Blow, Clean, Bleed Brake System & exam INE rear brake : Rs. 450.00 Changed Power steering oil : Rs. 250.00 Applied Interior cleaning : Rs.1300.00 Service Tax ( Rs.4375/-) : Rs. 350.00 Total -1 : Rs.4725 O ring - Rs.78.70 Element Assy, Air - Rs.298.44 O-ring 7.3 x 2.2 - Rs.181.28 Washer Drain - Rs. 16.70 Spark Plug - Rs. 708.00 Set, Fuel Strn Com - Rs.704.00 Set pad FR (15 cl) - Rs.2975.00 Manual Transmission oil - Rs.324.00 Power Steering Fluid - Rs.251.86 Brake Fluid -Rs.566.98 KORO coolant - Rs.239.85 3M choke and Carb cleaner- Rs.198.85 Tyre Dresser - Rs.20.43 Body Flex Gel - Rs.130.18 Taxes - Rs.702.54 Total - 2 - Rs. 7397.00 Grand Total - Rs.12122
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