Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned?

Leoshashi · 16th July 2014, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamal

1. Yes, surely the compressor lube oil would need replacement after 14 years.
2. My 1997 Esteem needed 2 cans of 350 GMs each; your M800 would obviously require less.
3. Aman has stocks of MO49+ ; plz give him a call.
Regards.

Thanks a lot Sir for all the assistance. Aman is one helpful chap. He has asked me to call tomorrow and he'll make the gas available through his contacts in Ranchi, or else he'll ship me by courier.

Regards,
Shashi

ghpk · 17th July 2014, 01:34

Thanks again kamal sir.

I understand the risk involved, but like any other D.I.Y. person would learn a lot and then only jump to the real work.
I already do most of the work on my Home A.C's and have been handling it for few years now.

I checked and its R134a, and have purchased the following equipment
1). Manifold Guage
2). 134a Coupler to accept Gas line into car line
3). 1 can of Godrej R134a,
4). 1 Tap for attaching Can to the Manifold Guage.

as a true Team-Bhp fan, I would try this with proper precautions and take lots of pics and hopefully have a video done for the entire process.

Fingers crossed, and hoperfuly coming Sunday or the next one should have this task completed.
Will post details in a D.I.Y new topic once done.

Kamal · 18th July 2014, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghpk

Thanks again kamal sir.

I understand the risk involved, but like any other D.I.Y. person would learn a lot and then only jump to the real work.
I already do most of the work on my Home A.C's and have been handling it for few years now.

I checked and its R134a, and have purchased the following equipment
1). Manifold Guage
2). 134a Coupler to accept Gas line into car line
3). 1 can of Godrej R134a,
4). 1 Tap for attaching Can to the Manifold Guage.

as a true Team-Bhp fan, I would try this with proper precautions and take lots of pics and hopefully have a video done for the entire process.

Fingers crossed, and hoperfuly coming Sunday or the next one should have this task completed.
Will post details in a D.I.Y new topic once done.

All the best, but do plz take care.
Would love to see pics!

--gKrish-- · 14th April 2018, 14:05

Where can I buy DuPont MO49+? Havent found them in local stores yet.

Kamal · 15th April 2018, 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by --gKrish--

Where can I buy DuPont MO49+? Havent found them in local stores yet.

I have no idea where MO49+ would be available in Trivandrum/Kerala.
In case you are unable to locate it nearer, kindly contact Aman Sahil, owner- Aman's EMX Workshop, Okhla Industrial Estate Phase 3,South Delhi: 9891574136,9312804492 & 9210408092.
He has shipped the gas cans/attachment nozzle to several people who could not locate it locally.
He's quite a helpful guy.

HimuraKenshin · 13th April 2019, 22:32

Bumping up an old thread. Anywhere in mumbai i can get M049+?
Any leads will be appreciated.

Kamal · 14th April 2019, 10:48

Don't know about Mumbai but call up the guy whose contact details I've given in post #80. He does ship outside Delhi.

HimuraKenshin · 11th May 2020, 18:00

I've been looking everywhere for DuPont Mo49Plus but haven't been able to get my hadn on it yet. There is a supplier in Mumbai willing to sell 61Kg cylinder to me which is a bit crazy, even for me.

I've come across quite a few DIYs where users have filled something referred to as the 'Hydrocarbon blend B' in their vehicles. This is essentially a drop in hydrocarbon based refrigerant consisting of propane)R290) and isobutane (R600A)
I was thinking of doing this for my ambassador. Has anyone in India experimented with this?

http://www.possumliving.com/2012/08/...otive-air.html

Kamal · 17th May 2020, 07:08

#HimuraKenshin.
Before you think of going the diy route which might be quite risky, try contacting Aman Sahil whose contact details I've given in post #80 above. He may be able to help you with supplies of Mo49Plus.
Regards

HimuraKenshin · 16th June 2021, 10:04

After searching for MO49 plus i went the DIY route of creating HC12A which is infect a combination of propane (R-290) and isobutane (R-600a).
I have used this in my HM amabssador which was originally designed to use R12.
I am getting brilliant cooling and the vent temperature is at -0.4 degrees centigrade.

I understand that this is a flammable refrigerant but it is a legal alternative in many countries. Do note that you should ensure that there is no leak in your ac pipes prior to this installation.

17th July 2014, 01:34	#77
ghpk BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 870 Thanked: 211 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned Thanks again kamal sir. I understand the risk involved, but like any other D.I.Y. person would learn a lot and then only jump to the real work. I already do most of the work on my Home A.C's and have been handling it for few years now. I checked and its R134a, and have purchased the following equipment 1). Manifold Guage 2). 134a Coupler to accept Gas line into car line 3). 1 can of Godrej R134a, 4). 1 Tap for attaching Can to the Manifold Guage. as a true Team-Bhp fan, I would try this with proper precautions and take lots of pics and hopefully have a video done for the entire process. Fingers crossed, and hoperfuly coming Sunday or the next one should have this task completed. Will post details in a D.I.Y new topic once done.
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14th April 2018, 14:05	#79
--gKrish-- BHPian Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Saxony<>TVM Posts: 239 Thanked: 653 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? Where can I buy DuPont MO49+? Havent found them in local stores yet.
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13th April 2019, 22:32	#81
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 327 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? Bumping up an old thread. Anywhere in mumbai i can get M049+? Any leads will be appreciated.
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14th April 2019, 10:48	#82
Kamal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N.Delhi Posts: 127 Thanked: 108 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? Don't know about Mumbai but call up the guy whose contact details I've given in post #80. He does ship outside Delhi.
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11th May 2020, 18:00	#83
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 327 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? I've been looking everywhere for DuPont Mo49Plus but haven't been able to get my hadn on it yet. There is a supplier in Mumbai willing to sell 61Kg cylinder to me which is a bit crazy, even for me. I've come across quite a few DIYs where users have filled something referred to as the 'Hydrocarbon blend B' in their vehicles. This is essentially a drop in hydrocarbon based refrigerant consisting of propane)R290) and isobutane (R600A) I was thinking of doing this for my ambassador. Has anyone in India experimented with this? http://www.possumliving.com/2012/08/...otive-air.html
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17th May 2020, 07:08	#84
Kamal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: N.Delhi Posts: 127 Thanked: 108 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? #HimuraKenshin. Before you think of going the diy route which might be quite risky, try contacting Aman Sahil whose contact details I've given in post #80 above. He may be able to help you with supplies of Mo49Plus. Regards
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16th June 2021, 10:04	#85
HimuraKenshin BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai/London Posts: 287 Thanked: 327 Times	Re: Correct Gas for AC- Is R12 banned? After searching for MO49 plus i went the DIY route of creating HC12A which is infect a combination of propane (R-290) and isobutane (R-600a). I have used this in my HM amabssador which was originally designed to use R12. I am getting brilliant cooling and the vent temperature is at -0.4 degrees centigrade. I understand that this is a flammable refrigerant but it is a legal alternative in many countries. Do note that you should ensure that there is no leak in your ac pipes prior to this installation.
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