Cracked Air Intake - Palio S10 -

karizma_devil · 16th August 2009, 00:24

Guys

I think this is the air intake ...

It has cracked at a few places ... does it affect the fuel efficiency ??
Performance ??

Can i seal it with some kinda tape ??

What shall be the cost of replacement ??

How would it affect the overal performance of car ??

Please suggest.

P.S Mods : I have used image from some other thread for reference , hope it is fine.

Ravveendrra · 16th August 2009, 09:21

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Originally Posted by karizma_devil

Guys

I think this is the air intake ...

It has cracked at a few places ... does it affect the fuel efficiency ??
Performance ??

Can i seal it with some kinda tape ??

What shall be the cost of replacement ??

How would it affect the overal performance of car ??

Please suggest.

P.S Mods : I have used image from some other thread for reference , hope it is fine.

I too face this problem & have temporarily used tape to cover the cut till I get a replacement.

Cheers,

karizma_devil · 16th August 2009, 09:32

Oflate i have noticed a hissing sound , and the engine jerks a bit (very less) when i crank it start ( It jerks just as the engine comes to life for 1 sec).

Though mt FE has been around 7 Km/lts , i have not noticed any dip in power.

@ Ravendra - I am going to put some black electrical tape around it .(ISI mark )
Bit OT :@ Ravendra your car looks simply mind blowing in those linea alloys !!
Am looking for alloys for my S 10 ( You know we guys have these 98 PCD problem) if you come across Linea / Punto wheels in any car shop in hydrabad .. give me a buzz i would come down and collect them.

Ravveendrra · 16th August 2009, 09:42

Hi Karizma,

Try wider tape even duct tape will do. The electrical tape might be too thin and would allow unfiltered air in. The ribbed bellows design of the pipe make winding tape difficult so I used 1-1/2" duct tape, earlier I tried electrical tape but was not satisfied with the results. I am told that these pipes are available with Concorde. I have not been able to drop my car off so I have not got it changed yet.

I will keep an eye out for 98 PCD alloys. LOL so many people want them!

Cheers,

vdiatech · 16th August 2009, 10:57

I think a crack between filter and throttle body is dangerous, Kindly get it sorted at the earliest. Cheers

DRC · 16th August 2009, 11:10

Join the gang! It seems like a common problem. It happened on my car too. At the same spot.

Often it is difficult to get it and expensive, I wrapped it with self adhesive dressing tape (cloth type). Electrical insulation does not stick is changing tempt. scenario. wrap with dressing tape and tie a wire tag around the tape. works fine till you get the replacement.

RedMM340 · 16th August 2009, 11:36

That happened to me too. Get it replaced ASAP, since you will be bypassing the air filter and sucking in dirt. It would be a good idea to change the engine oil/filter and have the intake manifold/throttle body cleaned.

Don't bother with tape and cheap fixes, because they won't work well, and if the tape comes loose you engine will get damaged. The flexible pipe with its accordian type of surface is just not repairable with tape. I paid over Rs. 1000 from the dealer.

Live To Jive · 16th August 2009, 11:45

Just replace it. It's quite cheap.

musicmanaman · 16th August 2009, 11:54

Replace it Yes !, but don't loose sleep over it, managing with a tape for the time being won't kill the engine.

shreyasma · 16th August 2009, 14:43

When you have to spend so much money for the stock pipe, cant you change to the steel flange that is used in case of aftermarket airfilters like K&N?

Its about Rs 600-800 only for the flange. This will be a one time investment also

beejay · 17th December 2009, 12:15

The air intake hose if broken can definitely decrease the performance. Tapes don't work.

Most of the cars I have seen have broken air intake pipes. The noise it makes is wild.

vdiatech · 18th December 2009, 22:25

I noticed a small crack at the bend after the airbox on my corsa couple of days ago. For now, I have used M-Seal to cover it and it has stuck like a rock and holding good. This set up will continue until I can find an used part.

ravikn · 19th December 2009, 23:18

I too did face the same problem recently. My mechanic has fitted in a GI(metal pipe of 2 inch size) along the path of the hose with the same shape and told me that this will be as good as a pipe for life time. I am trying to source this pipe. But would like to know if this is a good idea to do. I find the insulation to be very good and he seems to have done a good job in getting the pipe bent in the same shape as the hose.

Guys please suggest

pranavt · 19th December 2009, 23:49

Don't stick it without making sure that it's not going to come off. If this gets sucked into the throttle body and consequently the cylinder, you will have far bigger problems. Don't crib on spending a few hundred rupees, the resulting damage will go into the thousands.

16th August 2009, 00:24	#1
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Cracked Air Intake - Palio S10 - Guys I think this is the air intake ... It has cracked at a few places ... does it affect the fuel efficiency ?? Performance ?? Can i seal it with some kinda tape ?? What shall be the cost of replacement ?? How would it affect the overal performance of car ?? Please suggest. P.S Mods : I have used image from some other thread for reference , hope it is fine. Attached Thumbnails
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16th August 2009, 09:32	#3
karizma_devil BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 421 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Oflate i have noticed a hissing sound , and the engine jerks a bit (very less) when i crank it start ( It jerks just as the engine comes to life for 1 sec). Though mt FE has been around 7 Km/lts , i have not noticed any dip in power. @ Ravendra - I am going to put some black electrical tape around it .(ISI mark ) Bit OT :@ Ravendra your car looks simply mind blowing in those linea alloys !! Am looking for alloys for my S 10 ( You know we guys have these 98 PCD problem) if you come across Linea / Punto wheels in any car shop in hydrabad .. give me a buzz i would come down and collect them. Attached Thumbnails
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16th August 2009, 09:42	#4
Ravveendrra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 446 Times View My Garage	Hi Karizma, Try wider tape even duct tape will do. The electrical tape might be too thin and would allow unfiltered air in. The ribbed bellows design of the pipe make winding tape difficult so I used 1-1/2" duct tape, earlier I tried electrical tape but was not satisfied with the results. I am told that these pipes are available with Concorde. I have not been able to drop my car off so I have not got it changed yet. I will keep an eye out for 98 PCD alloys. LOL so many people want them! Cheers,
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16th August 2009, 10:57	#5
vdiatech BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 414 Thanked: 10 Times	I think a crack between filter and throttle body is dangerous, Kindly get it sorted at the earliest. Cheers
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16th August 2009, 11:10	#6
DRC BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cockpit Posts: 911 Thanked: 64 Times View My Garage	Join the gang! It seems like a common problem. It happened on my car too. At the same spot. Often it is difficult to get it and expensive, I wrapped it with self adhesive dressing tape (cloth type). Electrical insulation does not stick is changing tempt. scenario. wrap with dressing tape and tie a wire tag around the tape. works fine till you get the replacement.
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16th August 2009, 11:36	#7
RedMM340 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: on the move Posts: 457 Thanked: 34 Times	That happened to me too. Get it replaced ASAP, since you will be bypassing the air filter and sucking in dirt. It would be a good idea to change the engine oil/filter and have the intake manifold/throttle body cleaned. Don't bother with tape and cheap fixes, because they won't work well, and if the tape comes loose you engine will get damaged. The flexible pipe with its accordian type of surface is just not repairable with tape. I paid over Rs. 1000 from the dealer.
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16th August 2009, 11:45	#8
Live To Jive BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 698 Thanked: 89 Times	Just replace it. It's quite cheap.
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16th August 2009, 11:54	#9
musicmanaman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 927 Thanked: 25 Times	Replace it Yes !, but don't loose sleep over it, managing with a tape for the time being won't kill the engine.
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16th August 2009, 14:43	#10
shreyasma BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bang! Posts: 652 Thanked: 6 Times	When you have to spend so much money for the stock pipe, cant you change to the steel flange that is used in case of aftermarket airfilters like K&N? Its about Rs 600-800 only for the flange. This will be a one time investment also Last edited by shreyasma : 16th August 2009 at 14:45.
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17th December 2009, 12:15	#11
beejay Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Nilgiris Posts: 1,963 Thanked: 204 Times View My Garage	The air intake hose if broken can definitely decrease the performance. Tapes don't work. Most of the cars I have seen have broken air intake pipes. The noise it makes is wild.
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18th December 2009, 22:25	#12
vdiatech BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 414 Thanked: 10 Times	I noticed a small crack at the bend after the airbox on my corsa couple of days ago. For now, I have used M-Seal to cover it and it has stuck like a rock and holding good. This set up will continue until I can find an used part.
	() Thanks

19th December 2009, 23:18	#13
ravikn BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 344 Thanked: 25 Times	I too did face the same problem recently. My mechanic has fitted in a GI(metal pipe of 2 inch size) along the path of the hose with the same shape and told me that this will be as good as a pipe for life time. I am trying to source this pipe. But would like to know if this is a good idea to do. I find the insulation to be very good and he seems to have done a good job in getting the pipe bent in the same shape as the hose. Guys please suggest
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19th December 2009, 23:49	#14
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Don't stick it without making sure that it's not going to come off. If this gets sucked into the throttle body and consequently the cylinder, you will have far bigger problems. Don't crib on spending a few hundred rupees, the resulting damage will go into the thousands.
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