Toyota innova Rear wheel alignment problem

neo_trace · 18th July 2010, 13:01

hi
just bought used Toyota innova 2.0 v 54700kms done in odo
till then i clocked 12000km in 3months
my rear tyre completely worn out from outside
i checked wheel alignment shop and toyota service center told me wheel alignment shows perfect values and there is no setting for wheel alignment at Rear.
what could be problem?
i tried changing tyre side and same thing happend both sides r now wornout

any help

Deeps · 18th July 2010, 13:13

The lower arm of the rear suspension could be bent. Changing it would be the only option. But then if that was the case, it should definitely show wrong values on the alignment machine. is the problem with only one rear tyre or both tyres?

neo_trace · 18th July 2010, 13:32

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Deeps · 18th July 2010, 14:17

try getting another reading from another machine somewhere else. I suspect its the lower arms (both sides) that are bent.

ramzsys · 18th July 2010, 14:29

Is there a lower arm in the rear of the innova?

humyum · 18th July 2010, 14:33

Try checking the wheel bearings for play. Maybe this could be the cause

narayanang76 · 18th July 2010, 16:34

culprit should be the rear axle that could have a bent and then this uneven tire wear is a possibility. In my opinion you could verify this yourself, if you park your car on an even surface the tire could be touching the ground unevenly - please check that.

m-hawk · 18th July 2010, 16:50

Hey I used to think my petrol innova clocking 59k is the highest in country but yours is nearing 68 anyways you say you bought used so the tyres must be at it's fag end as nobody bothers changing them if there is an intent of selling it . It's possible the tyres were just redone in a fashion to look good (nakshi cutting) the stronger ones put in the front just change them and be at peace !! The tyre shop who
you will consult will definitely give you a good idea about the tyre s history !!!

neo_trace · 18th July 2010, 17:08

yes when i see tyres from rear it shows like they are bent inside
how couldbe rear axel bend?
is insurance good to claim?
when tyres are wet and i drive in parking shows only outside grips

narayanang76 · 18th July 2010, 17:20

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Originally Posted by neo_trace

yes when i see tyres from rear it shows like they are bent inside
how couldbe rear axel bend?
is insurance good to claim?
when tyres are wet and i drive in parking shows only outside grips

Axle bending is a rare possibility, but can be caused by accidents / damage caused by hitting speed brakers, potholes or even running long distance on flat tyres.

Take it to a good service center, preferably toyota itself and see the real problem. If you tell about these possibilities and ask them to check - then they should not be trying too much of investigation on unnecessary things and also not replace unnecessary things for rectifying the problem. They could also tell you about covering this under insurance.

I will give more than 80% possibility to the rear axle issue for such uneven tire wear, it has happened with me on my Maruti Zen before. Believe me the Maruti MASS couldnt identify the issue for first 2 times, but they replaced the lower arms, suspension etc by confirming that the problem is resolved. but it wasnt the case untill the axle was relaced and I could very clearly see the axle bent myself.

I would also suggest not to change tires before rectifying this issue as you will be damaging your newer tires as well.

narayanang76

SirAlec · 20th July 2010, 23:19

Its possible your car be a accident victim when it was previously owned.

Following are the possibility.
1. Rear wheel bend. do you have alloy or steel rims.
2. trailing arm.
3. Apron, where the arm fits. now this is tricky to find as you will need an expert body worker/foreman.

dmaheshkumar · 28th July 2010, 17:32

IF the wheel alignment is correct in all cases,first
1.Check the discs.Is there any bend means,it will also cause it.
2.Next Wheel bearings,This need to checked.
3.Tyre manufaturing problems(But you have old that its changed and again the same problem is there).So leave this step.

SirAlec · 29th July 2010, 23:36

damaged bearings will make a distinct sound.

msaudf · 30th July 2010, 00:18

if you can post a picture for us to see the bend/slant.
some of my childhood memories about cars is my dad visits to our local mechanic to get his car serviced and for to check the wheel alignment the mech only used a long string and a bolt and he'd check the alignment spot on, he even checks camber and caster along with the toe. nowadays the alignment guys use advanced machines and computers and only correct toe readings, and if camber and caster are wrong they just ignore them.
take the Innova to an experienced suspension mechanic and ask him to take a look at your problem.

18th July 2010, 13:01	#1
neo_trace BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: surat,gujarat Posts: 191 Thanked: 40 Times	Toyota innova Rear wheel alignment problem hi just bought used Toyota innova 2.0 v 54700kms done in odo till then i clocked 12000km in 3months my rear tyre completely worn out from outside i checked wheel alignment shop and toyota service center told me wheel alignment shows perfect values and there is no setting for wheel alignment at Rear. what could be problem? i tried changing tyre side and same thing happend both sides r now wornout any help
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18th July 2010, 13:13	#2
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	The lower arm of the rear suspension could be bent. Changing it would be the only option. But then if that was the case, it should definitely show wrong values on the alignment machine. is the problem with only one rear tyre or both tyres?
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18th July 2010, 14:17	#4
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	try getting another reading from another machine somewhere else. I suspect its the lower arms (both sides) that are bent.
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18th July 2010, 14:29	#5
ramzsys Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NH209 Posts: 1,775 Thanked: 1,462 Times	Is there a lower arm in the rear of the innova?
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18th July 2010, 14:33	#6
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,752 Thanked: 5,431 Times	Try checking the wheel bearings for play. Maybe this could be the cause
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18th July 2010, 16:34	#7
narayanang76 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KA 53/KL 9 Posts: 451 Thanked: 836 Times View My Garage	culprit should be the rear axle that could have a bent and then this uneven tire wear is a possibility. In my opinion you could verify this yourself, if you park your car on an even surface the tire could be touching the ground unevenly - please check that.
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18th July 2010, 16:50	#8
m-hawk BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: mumbai Posts: 218 Thanked: 9 Times	Hey I used to think my petrol innova clocking 59k is the highest in country but yours is nearing 68 anyways you say you bought used so the tyres must be at it's fag end as nobody bothers changing them if there is an intent of selling it . It's possible the tyres were just redone in a fashion to look good (nakshi cutting) the stronger ones put in the front just change them and be at peace !! The tyre shop who you will consult will definitely give you a good idea about the tyre s history !!!
	() Thanks

18th July 2010, 17:08	#9
neo_trace BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: surat,gujarat Posts: 191 Thanked: 40 Times	yes when i see tyres from rear it shows like they are bent inside how couldbe rear axel bend? is insurance good to claim? when tyres are wet and i drive in parking shows only outside grips
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20th July 2010, 23:19	#11
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	Its possible your car be a accident victim when it was previously owned. Following are the possibility. 1. Rear wheel bend. do you have alloy or steel rims. 2. trailing arm. 3. Apron, where the arm fits. now this is tricky to find as you will need an expert body worker/foreman.
	() Thanks

28th July 2010, 17:32	#12
dmaheshkumar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 218 Thanked: 154 Times	checks IF the wheel alignment is correct in all cases,first 1.Check the discs.Is there any bend means,it will also cause it. 2.Next Wheel bearings,This need to checked. 3.Tyre manufaturing problems(But you have old that its changed and again the same problem is there).So leave this step.
	() Thanks

29th July 2010, 23:36	#13
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	damaged bearings will make a distinct sound.
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30th July 2010, 00:18	#14
msaudf BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cochin Posts: 269 Thanked: 163 Times	if you can post a picture for us to see the bend/slant. some of my childhood memories about cars is my dad visits to our local mechanic to get his car serviced and for to check the wheel alignment the mech only used a long string and a bolt and he'd check the alignment spot on, he even checks camber and caster along with the toe. nowadays the alignment guys use advanced machines and computers and only correct toe readings, and if camber and caster are wrong they just ignore them. take the Innova to an experienced suspension mechanic and ask him to take a look at your problem.
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