Engine noise on 1999 1.3L OHC

micraft · 16th October 2010, 18:32

My OHC engine is making a noise which might be as described in this link
What's that sound ??

Quote:

Noise: SSSSSSSSSSSS
WHERE: Under the hood.
WHEN: Anytime the engine is running, but it’s most noticeable at idle speed.
WHAT: Vacuum leak. A rubber or plastic vacuum line or fitting has split or fallen apart.
URGENCY: If you’re wondering why your Check Engine light is on and why your car idles poorly, this is probably why.
FIX: Reconnect or replace the line.

There is no notable difference in drivability or performance.

The sound does not increase with high revs and is most noticeable at idle. The noise is not constant and kind of keeps varying and does cause a noticeable vibration.

Can anyone help me out, what could be the problem?

pranavt · 16th October 2010, 18:45

Check for vacuum leaks and cracks in the air intake routing.

micraft · 16th October 2010, 19:02

This might sound stupid,

but how do i check for that.

I checked the air intake pipes till the air-filter, the air-filter needs to be replaced, but I don't think that is the reason for the noise.

How do i check for vacuum leaks?

SirAlec · 18th October 2010, 00:10

check the intake system for leaks.

Engine noise on 1999 1.3L OHC-engine-bay-honda-large.jpg

pranavt · 18th October 2010, 04:57

Buy a spray can of carb cleaner. You'll find it at any auto spare-parts store.

Keep the engine running, start spraying a fine mist from the air intake towards the throttle body. Move slowly, so it's easier to notice. Look closely at the spot where you're spraying; just don't spray it into your eyes while doing it.

The leak will become obvious if it's there.

sushrutha · 18th October 2010, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by micraft

Can anyone help me out, what could be the problem?

Another area to check is....
Did you scrape/bang the crankcase(Below the engine - Oil sump) of your City ?
Check the underbody of your car for the same.
If yes then get the crankcase bend removed.

micraft · 18th October 2010, 20:59

After my reading, I understand that if there was a vacuum leak, i would be having very varying idle rpm, but I don't think that is the case. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks Sushratha,
I did have a bang and scrape the underbody, after which this problem started.
And I'm pretty much sure that I scraped the underbody below the engine.

How do I identify the crank case?

I'm googling now....!!!!

micraft · 19th October 2010, 00:36

After my minor research, I understand that if the crank case gets bend, it's very serious. ....

Another V.Imp point : I checked the oil dip, and the level is at the high, earlier it used to be between high and low. I have a small feeling that the oil seal might be hit/bend.

Guys please gimme ur inputs...

pranavt · 19th October 2010, 02:10

Take it to a good mechanic. You are using big words without understanding what they mean.

jeeva · 19th October 2010, 08:25

Looks like Oil sump has got hit. Most of them are alloy based and would crack rather than getting bend, so that one would notice the leak immediately.
Dont keep driving the car in this condition. Oil circulation in the engine will be compromised which can lead to major issues.

micraft · 19th October 2010, 10:14

OK, can anyone suggest a good mechanic for just this work, or else I'm planning on giving her to Dakshin Honda, which will really put a hole in my wallet.

I guess if its critical work its best to give it to Honda A.S.S.

How much do you guys estimate to get the oil sump replaced? I'm sure Honda A.S.S will not do any repairs, it would only replace.

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sushrutha · 20th October 2010, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by micraft

OK, can anyone suggest a good mechanic for just this work, or else I'm planning on giving her to Dakshin Honda, which will really put a hole in my wallet.

I guess if its critical work its best to give it to Honda A.S.S.

How much do you guys estimate to get the oil sump replaced? I'm sure Honda A.S.S will not do any repairs, it would only replace.

Is the bend too much ?? Why don't you post a pic of your car's underbody ?
OHC crankcase is very delicate part ...
If you take it to Dakshin Honda, the'll simply tell you to replace the crankcase ... It'll burn your pocket into ashes.
Take it to a competent Mechanic, ask him as what can be done.
I have seen crankcase bend being removed by hammering... But this requires a good person who is good at tinkering...
In which area do you stay ?

micraft · 20th October 2010, 14:11

Hi Sushrutha,

I reside in Bangalore, near BTM.

Do u know anyone who specializes in this kind of work?

I'll send pictures of the under-body tonight.

Thanks.

lohithrao · 20th October 2010, 15:00

micraft, i would suggest you to consult Nagraj 9845275036, his workshop is in Koramangala.

It can be from the exhaust pipe too, get it checked thoroughly.

16th October 2010, 18:45	#2
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Check for vacuum leaks and cracks in the air intake routing.
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16th October 2010, 19:02	#3
micraft BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 289 Times	This might sound stupid, but how do i check for that. I checked the air intake pipes till the air-filter, the air-filter needs to be replaced, but I don't think that is the reason for the noise. How do i check for vacuum leaks?
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18th October 2010, 00:10	#4
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	check the intake system for leaks.
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18th October 2010, 04:57	#5
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Buy a spray can of carb cleaner. You'll find it at any auto spare-parts store. Keep the engine running, start spraying a fine mist from the air intake towards the throttle body. Move slowly, so it's easier to notice. Look closely at the spot where you're spraying; just don't spray it into your eyes while doing it. The leak will become obvious if it's there.
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18th October 2010, 20:59	#7
micraft BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 289 Times	After my reading, I understand that if there was a vacuum leak, i would be having very varying idle rpm, but I don't think that is the case. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks Sushratha, I did have a bang and scrape the underbody, after which this problem started. And I'm pretty much sure that I scraped the underbody below the engine. How do I identify the crank case? I'm googling now....!!!!
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19th October 2010, 00:36	#8
micraft BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 289 Times	After my minor research, I understand that if the crank case gets bend, it's very serious. .... Another V.Imp point : I checked the oil dip, and the level is at the high, earlier it used to be between high and low. I have a small feeling that the oil seal might be hit/bend. Guys please gimme ur inputs...
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19th October 2010, 02:10	#9
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	Take it to a good mechanic. You are using big words without understanding what they mean.
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19th October 2010, 08:25	#10
jeeva BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DXB / Nilgiris Posts: 769 Thanked: 1,278 Times View My Garage	Looks like Oil sump has got hit. Most of them are alloy based and would crack rather than getting bend, so that one would notice the leak immediately. Dont keep driving the car in this condition. Oil circulation in the engine will be compromised which can lead to major issues.
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micraft BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 289 Times	OK, can anyone suggest a good mechanic for just this work, or else I'm planning on giving her to Dakshin Honda, which will really put a hole in my wallet. I guess if its critical work its best to give it to Honda A.S.S. How much do you guys estimate to get the oil sump replaced? I'm sure Honda A.S.S will not do any repairs, it would only replace.
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micraft BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 108 Thanked: 289 Times	Hi Sushrutha, I reside in Bangalore, near BTM. Do u know anyone who specializes in this kind of work? I'll send pictures of the under-body tonight. Thanks.
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lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,204 Thanked: 225 Times View My Garage	micraft, i would suggest you to consult Nagraj 9845275036, his workshop is in Koramangala. It can be from the exhaust pipe too, get it checked thoroughly. Last edited by lohithrao : 20th October 2010 at 15:18.
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