Hard clutch i10 at 19000 kms

drsnt · 13th November 2010, 00:28

This is for my friend, he has I10 era (santro engine) model which has done just 19000 kms and it's clutch feels very hard but there does not seem to be any slippage or loss of power as such. it does have bite at almost 1/2way and above it the pedal is free

although i have come across many i10 clutch replacements here very early but i think the problem with old angine is not there but only with kappa. Am I right?

What should be his rectification plan? I strongly believe that clutch as such is working fine and i also know service center will ask him for clutch replacement. how should he proceed to deal with problem.

Thankx in advance

libranof1987 · 13th November 2010, 10:59

19k km is quite early for a clutch replacement..

Check the clutch plate for wear and tear. Often, driving habits like driving with the clutch pressed (esp. in heavy traffic congestion) can cause early wear and tear.

Probably, you can have it checked by a service center and a local mechanic and take a call..

ghpk · 13th November 2010, 17:03

if pedal has play, it can be a loose cable too, buy you should certainly ask your friend to get it checked before getting ripped for money by H.A.S.S.

if the car has same engine as santro, i must tell you, my santro's clutch is still smooth and works fine on the original set, with 47K on odo, and lots of daily traffic run, so it should not be a manufacturing defect, but i have no idea about i10 clutch though.

achopraa · 13th November 2010, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsnt

This is for my friend, he has I10 era (santro engine) model which has done just 19000 kms and it's clutch feels very hard but there does not seem to be any slippage or loss of power as such. it does have bite at almost 1/2way and above it the pedal is free

although i have come across many i10 clutch replacements here very early but i think the problem with old angine is not there but only with kappa. Am I right?

What should be his rectification plan? I strongly believe that clutch as such is working fine and i also know service center will ask him for clutch replacement. how should he proceed to deal with problem.

Thankx in advance

Get the same checked at the Service Centre. I had similar kind of problem which didn't surfaced when my I10 went to next Service.

YaeJay · 13th November 2010, 22:02

Is there a difference in the hardness of the pedal when the engine is switched off and when it is turned on (at idle)? If there is a noticeable change in hardness (i.e. Pedal becoming heavier after starting the car) it might be a release bearing issue.

svaid · 13th November 2010, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsnt

although i have come across many i10 clutch replacements here very earlyt?

Are you referring to the i10 clutch replacements on the forum ( It happened for my i10 kappa ) OR in your social circle? As far as I see, few of the i10 owners on the forum faced some issue with the clutch but it was fixed by HASS without requirement of clutch replacement. Please point me to the threads if I am missing something here.

Regarding your case, what I can recommend is to first show the car to an authorizes HASS station and get their opinion. If you are not satisfied, try a different HASS to double check. If you know of any clutch experts in your area, you can get the car checked there as well. This can just help you to make sure that the diagnosis that has happened is the correct one. If you are confident that the clutch has not been abused during the 19K drive, you should point that out clearly to the HASS so that they look out for reasons apart from driving habits.

jeeva · 13th November 2010, 22:09

Check the clutch cable, or else its the clutch assembly.
Does your friend ride on the clutch ?

ghpk · 14th November 2010, 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by svaid

Are you referring to the i10 clutch replacements on the forum ( It happened for my i10 kappa ) OR in your social circle? As far as I see, few of the i10 owners on the forum faced some issue with the clutch but it was fixed by HASS without requirement of clutch replacement. Please point me to the threads if I am missing something here.

Regarding your case, what I can recommend is to first show the car to an authorizes HASS station and get their opinion. If you are not satisfied, try a different HASS to double check. If you know of any clutch experts in your area, you can get the car checked there as well. This can just help you to make sure that the diagnosis that has happened is the correct one. If you are confident that the clutch has not been abused during the 19K drive, you should point that out clearly to the HASS so that they look out for reasons apart from driving habits.

thats what i suggested, he must take a second advice before dropping the car to hyundai service, cause what i feel sometimes they suggest replacement of the unit, instead of spending a extra minutes to check properly.

I've seen many threads here where replacement of clutch plates never solved the problem and you'll never get back the money wasted, so its better to be sure before taking the leap.

anshul_babbar · 2nd January 2011, 02:05

Even my dad's i10 kappa has the same issue, having just run for 18k kms.
He abuses the clutch plates a bit at times now because of the harder clutch but he used to drive with care when it was light.

I got the clutch cable replaced during the last service but that hasn't helped much, should I get the clutch plates and pressure plates replaced? think 18k life for a clutch is too less.

rajeev k · 2nd January 2011, 05:56

Friend first check the clutch cable; in all probability it may be the culprit.

jango · 2nd January 2011, 06:50

@ drsnt i would suggest your friend to get the clutch cable checked by HASS. The clutch on my i10 too was hard and after getting it checked from HASS it became a lot lighter and better.

A clutch ( burn out )problem at 19K odd KM's is quiet unlikely even in bumper to bumper traffic unless driven very badly.

TAIF · 2nd January 2011, 07:23

My 'irde' engine i10 driven for 22k too had 'REALLY' hard clutch. Once the clutch is engaged, it takes few sweet seconds to bounce back, it's that hard!!!!

Time to change the clutch assembly I guess.

adisag · 2nd January 2011, 09:58

I've been observing this in my i10 Kappa (done some 27K km) for the last 2 weeks, the car was not used for a period of 3 weeks as I was travelling. At first I thought maybe I was finding the clutch hard as I had'nt driven her for a while, but the situtation only seems to be getting worse. Its still quite driveable, but the clutch is much harder than it used to be - its due for a service (30K - but mid jan as the 6 months are up then) so will get it checked out then.

rk_sans · 2nd January 2011, 10:38

My i10 kappa's clutch was replaced around 10k due to clutch hardness. I tried replacing the cable first but it did not help much, so the HASS replaced the clutch plates and pressure plates.
I have seen this issue more on Kappa version in the forum.
Get it checked with HASS and also do not forget to update over here, so that it helps others.

adishenoy · 2nd January 2011, 11:48

The clutch is fine if there is no slipping. Get it checked from a good service station, else they will unnecessarily ask your friend to change the whole clutch setup.
First get the clutch cable inspected and changed if necessary (may cost around 200rs).
Else the only other culprits will be the pressure plate and release bearing.

The pressure plate diaphragm may have uneven wear or maybe the release bearing needs greasing.But checking the pressure plate and release bearing will result in opening up the transmission to access the clutch setup (so get it done at A.S.S).

13th November 2010, 00:28	#1
drsnt BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: JH/BHARAT Posts: 383 Thanked: 451 Times	Hard clutch i10 at 19000 kms This is for my friend, he has I10 era (santro engine) model which has done just 19000 kms and it's clutch feels very hard but there does not seem to be any slippage or loss of power as such. it does have bite at almost 1/2way and above it the pedal is free although i have come across many i10 clutch replacements here very early but i think the problem with old angine is not there but only with kappa. Am I right? What should be his rectification plan? I strongly believe that clutch as such is working fine and i also know service center will ask him for clutch replacement. how should he proceed to deal with problem. Thankx in advance
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13th November 2010, 10:59	#2
libranof1987 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: All over! Posts: 7,618 Thanked: 18,347 Times	19k km is quite early for a clutch replacement.. Check the clutch plate for wear and tear. Often, driving habits like driving with the clutch pressed (esp. in heavy traffic congestion) can cause early wear and tear. Probably, you can have it checked by a service center and a local mechanic and take a call..
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13th November 2010, 17:03	#3
ghpk BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 870 Thanked: 211 Times	if pedal has play, it can be a loose cable too, buy you should certainly ask your friend to get it checked before getting ripped for money by H.A.S.S. if the car has same engine as santro, i must tell you, my santro's clutch is still smooth and works fine on the original set, with 47K on odo, and lots of daily traffic run, so it should not be a manufacturing defect, but i have no idea about i10 clutch though.
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13th November 2010, 22:02	#5
YaeJay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: . Posts: 489 Thanked: 131 Times	Is there a difference in the hardness of the pedal when the engine is switched off and when it is turned on (at idle)? If there is a noticeable change in hardness (i.e. Pedal becoming heavier after starting the car) it might be a release bearing issue.
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13th November 2010, 22:09	#7
jeeva BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DXB / Nilgiris Posts: 769 Thanked: 1,279 Times View My Garage	Check the clutch cable, or else its the clutch assembly. Does your friend ride on the clutch ?
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2nd January 2011, 02:05	#9
anshul_babbar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: new delhi Posts: 31 Thanked: 6 Times	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms Even my dad's i10 kappa has the same issue, having just run for 18k kms. He abuses the clutch plates a bit at times now because of the harder clutch but he used to drive with care when it was light. I got the clutch cable replaced during the last service but that hasn't helped much, should I get the clutch plates and pressure plates replaced? think 18k life for a clutch is too less.
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2nd January 2011, 05:56	#10
rajeev k Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Emerging Metro Posts: 3,352 Thanked: 1,947 Times	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms Friend first check the clutch cable; in all probability it may be the culprit.
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2nd January 2011, 06:50	#11
jango BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York & kotayam Posts: 800 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms @ drsnt i would suggest your friend to get the clutch cable checked by HASS. The clutch on my i10 too was hard and after getting it checked from HASS it became a lot lighter and better. A clutch ( burn out )problem at 19K odd KM's is quiet unlikely even in bumper to bumper traffic unless driven very badly.
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2nd January 2011, 07:23	#12
TAIF BANNED Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: - Posts: 16 Thanked: 0 Times Infractions: 0/1 (12)	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms My 'irde' engine i10 driven for 22k too had 'REALLY' hard clutch. Once the clutch is engaged, it takes few sweet seconds to bounce back, it's that hard!!!! Time to change the clutch assembly I guess.
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2nd January 2011, 09:58	#13
adisag BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 144 Thanked: 60 Times	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms I've been observing this in my i10 Kappa (done some 27K km) for the last 2 weeks, the car was not used for a period of 3 weeks as I was travelling. At first I thought maybe I was finding the clutch hard as I had'nt driven her for a while, but the situtation only seems to be getting worse. Its still quite driveable, but the clutch is much harder than it used to be - its due for a service (30K - but mid jan as the 6 months are up then) so will get it checked out then.
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2nd January 2011, 10:38	#14
rk_sans Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,037 Thanked: 969 Times View My Garage	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms My i10 kappa's clutch was replaced around 10k due to clutch hardness. I tried replacing the cable first but it did not help much, so the HASS replaced the clutch plates and pressure plates. I have seen this issue more on Kappa version in the forum. Get it checked with HASS and also do not forget to update over here, so that it helps others.
	() Thanks

2nd January 2011, 11:48	#15
adishenoy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 61 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: hard cluch I10 at 19000 kms The clutch is fine if there is no slipping. Get it checked from a good service station, else they will unnecessarily ask your friend to change the whole clutch setup. First get the clutch cable inspected and changed if necessary (may cost around 200rs). Else the only other culprits will be the pressure plate and release bearing. The pressure plate diaphragm may have uneven wear or maybe the release bearing needs greasing.But checking the pressure plate and release bearing will result in opening up the transmission to access the clutch setup (so get it done at A.S.S).
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