Do you always use first gear to move on?

speedsatya · 12th January 2006, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Zappo

I. All of a sudden I find that if I try to shift to the 1st gear at any speed above 5kmph the lever simply refuses to budge!! I do not know what has happened. Maybe some trick they incorporated to prolong the clutch life?! I don't know.

i think thats beacuse first and reverse are constant mesh and the others are synchromesh ...it is to avoid accidental shifting into 1st or reverse ....this was what i was told by maruti

DCEite · 12th January 2006, 17:44

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

i think thats beacuse first and reverse are constant mesh and the others are synchromesh ...it is to avoid accidental shifting into 1st or reverse ....this was what i was told by maruti

But my wagonR reverse gear still sucks you know...refuses to be engaged at times.. i am going to get it replaced

Zappo · 12th January 2006, 17:52

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Originally Posted by dceite

But my wagonR reverse gear still sucks you know...refuses to be engaged at times.. i am going to get it replaced

Hey hey hey... About the reverse gear there is a thing. Unlike other gears when you want to engage reverse the suggested way is to come to a standstill. Then once you declutch hold it for 5 seconds... and then take the reverse. You will find it engages so much more easily buddy

Zappo · 12th January 2006, 17:59

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

i think thats beacuse first and reverse are constant mesh and the others are synchromesh ...it is to avoid accidental shifting into 1st or reverse ....this was what i was told by maruti

Hmm... Satya bhai Indica has that documented for the reverse gear (no direct 5th->rev). However earlier on 1st I used to be able to move directly to. Typically whenever I reach a standstill for a brief while I directly shift over to the 1st (from 4th or 3rd) and then brake. This way it aids in quicker take off once the traffic moves. However all of a sudden after my car came back from its 1st service it has stopped happening. Hence the query...

vinod · 13th January 2006, 04:03

I ususally use the first gear, that way I can accelerate faster as well..... using 2nd gear means have to let go off the clutch a bit slower...However, in slow traffic my dad just uses the second gear..... he just feels lazy to change gears..lol :d

ambylimo · 13th January 2006, 05:01

yh pickikn up from 1st gear enables faster acceleration and doesnt exert unwanted pressure to ur engine....and reduces capacity as well...burns out more fuel and leaves wear and tear

Rudra Sen · 13th January 2006, 07:31

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Originally Posted by speedsatya

i think thats beacuse first and reverse are constant mesh and the others are synchromesh ...it is to avoid accidental shifting into 1st or reverse ....this was what i was told by maruti

Satya buddy, I'm under serious impression that all modern cars now with all synchromesh forward gears..

When did you check this with Maruti?

speedsatya · 13th January 2006, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

Satya buddy, I'm under serious impression that all modern cars now with all synchromesh forward gears..

When did you check this with Maruti?

when i was facing problems with my first and reverse gear ...i was told that all maruti cars from m800 to the baleno had this...there was no Swift at that time...

Rudra Sen · 13th January 2006, 10:39

Baleno sure comes with all forward synchromesh...Swift is only modern in terms of looks and time. Please check your Zen manual. Don't listen to your dealers/ service people blindly.

speedsatya · 13th January 2006, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

Baleno sure comes with all forward synchromesh...Swift is only modern in terms of looks and time. Please check your Zen manual. Don't listen to your dealers/ service people blindly.

ohhh ..will it be mentioned in the manual ???????wait ..letme write to maruti ...

but i thonk 3 dealers had told the same answer ...still will check

5u3zEr0 · 13th January 2006, 17:51

I always start from first. Except in our Mahindra Maxx, in which I start from 2nd without half clutching. There is hardly any difference in the first and second gears of the Maxx and Commander.

xtreme power · 13th January 2006, 18:11

hey in he city i normall start in the first gear only cause frankly i absolutly love this gear but if im in any of the landrovers then always use second....also when off roading and ur in low its more appropriate too start with either the second or even the third gear...

Abhay · 13th January 2006, 18:19

Always in 1st gear from stand-still (start). But sometimes I do it from 2nd (rarely) when I am too lazy to shift from 2nd in a traffic jam and crawling and have to stop for a bit and then move off again.

Gtea · 28th January 2006, 01:02

1st gear mostly but sometimes, when in traffic I start with 2nd gear because it gets quite tiresome to change to 1st and then 2nd even though there's about 5secs gap from changing from 1st to 2nd.

(Oh! BTW, I do this mostly in Stop - Go traffic conditions)

hellspawn · 28th January 2006, 03:17

i always use the first gear to start.....and i guess i was good at not riding the clutch cos the clutch lasted till 57000kms.the workshop engineers were suprised wen they got to know this.

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13th January 2006, 04:03	#20
vinod BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 131 Thanked: 9 Times	I ususally use the first gear, that way I can accelerate faster as well..... using 2nd gear means have to let go off the clutch a bit slower...However, in slow traffic my dad just uses the second gear..... he just feels lazy to change gears..lol :d
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13th January 2006, 05:01	#21
ambylimo BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: (Toronto) Ahmedabad Posts: 149 Thanked: 0 Times	yh pickikn up from 1st gear enables faster acceleration and doesnt exert unwanted pressure to ur engine....and reduces capacity as well...burns out more fuel and leaves wear and tear
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13th January 2006, 10:39	#24
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,751 Thanked: 6,871 Times View My Garage	Baleno sure comes with all forward synchromesh...Swift is only modern in terms of looks and time. Please check your Zen manual. Don't listen to your dealers/ service people blindly.
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13th January 2006, 17:51	#26
5u3zEr0 BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Madras Posts: 379 Thanked: 3 Times	I always start from first. Except in our Mahindra Maxx, in which I start from 2nd without half clutching. There is hardly any difference in the first and second gears of the Maxx and Commander.
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13th January 2006, 18:11	#27
xtreme power BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 732 Thanked: 76 Times View My Garage	hey in he city i normall start in the first gear only cause frankly i absolutly love this gear but if im in any of the landrovers then always use second....also when off roading and ur in low its more appropriate too start with either the second or even the third gear...
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13th January 2006, 18:19	#28
Abhay BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 727 Thanked: 12 Times	Always in 1st gear from stand-still (start). But sometimes I do it from 2nd (rarely) when I am too lazy to shift from 2nd in a traffic jam and crawling and have to stop for a bit and then move off again.
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28th January 2006, 01:02	#29
Gtea BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shillong Posts: 163 Thanked: Once	1st gear mostly but sometimes, when in traffic I start with 2nd gear because it gets quite tiresome to change to 1st and then 2nd even though there's about 5secs gap from changing from 1st to 2nd. (Oh! BTW, I do this mostly in Stop - Go traffic conditions)
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28th January 2006, 03:17	#30
hellspawn Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,686 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	i always use the first gear to start.....and i guess i was good at not riding the clutch cos the clutch lasted till 57000kms.the workshop engineers were suprised wen they got to know this.
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