Do you always use first gear to move on?

nitrous · 28th January 2006, 10:39

I always start with 1st gear except when driving my jeep or a truck.

Mugen_Power · 28th January 2006, 12:32

Always Moving on with 1st Gear.

bhogalrajnish · 1st June 2006, 18:48

My MPFI Esteem stalls if I change to 2nd from 1st at low speed say around 10 KMPH. What can be the problem .So if I am driving in trafic I need to use the 1st gear more frequently .
Can it be an issue with the clutch the car has done 78000km on the standard clutch .

panky12345 · 1st June 2006, 20:35

Ist to start, then immediately on 2nd, I think Ist was made for this!

carfreak · 1st June 2006, 22:07

1st gear from standstill.always!!

humyum · 2nd June 2006, 00:54

always 1st gear.IF u use 2nd gear from starting from standstill u are eating the clutch up as u will have to release the clutch slowly and it keeps rubbing against the flywheel until u release the entire clutch.In 2nd gear case u take longer to release the entire clutch as compared to 1st gear

iraghava · 2nd June 2006, 02:27

1st always to start from a standstill and my driving style means that when I start driving a new car within a few thousand k's I use the gearbox in a manner that you can downshift into 1st even uptill speeds of 30 kmph.

hellspawn · 2nd June 2006, 04:40

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Originally Posted by iraghava

1st always to start from a standstill and my driving style means that when I start driving a new car within a few thousand k's I use the gearbox in a manner that you can downshift into 1st even uptill speeds of 30 kmph.

am so suprised that ur still running on the original clutch.

Fuelled · 2nd June 2006, 05:31

Yup First gear is the best, I'm sure thats why its called the first ;-)

On a more technical approach. It is the first gear's job to get a car moving from standstill. Generally cars dont produce any torque at low rpms that's required for moving the car along. Hence 1st is geared lowest, so that the car gains revs easily for the speed it attains and the effort requires vs 2nd is also lowered(cos second has i geared higher, hence the engine revs less for a given speed attained)

I looked up my manual and it says 1st gear to be kept till 20(for a XING)
BUT i'm such a nice person that i keep it till 40kmph ;-)

Though many people have tried to make sense into me saying first is only to get the car rolling n second thereafter. But i stil dont think that they're right and i'm wrong.

@hellspawn- its more to with OHC than the way raghav drives. and his clutch is shot big time.. he jst messes with us saying he got it stiffened

PS: Just remembered from somewhere that in case of loaded trucks, volvo says first gear. But in case its unloaded then use of second from standstill.

jyobeb · 2nd June 2006, 08:24

While driving a regular car I use 1st gear. On my Traveller I always use 2nd (Even with the AC on) cos the 1st gear ratio is just too low. Depends on the gearing I guess.

WishboneAsh · 2nd June 2006, 10:54

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Originally Posted by revtech

but i have noticed one thing.when i drive in the nights when the signals are normally off i slow down just before the intersection.at this point of time i have almost stopped so my speed is really low but still at times its difficult to shift to first.the gear just doesnt slot in easily...the speed at this time is beween 5-15 km/hr but still it doesn.any reason why ??
Rev

I have noticed this on many occasions. I have a corsa sail and this problem exists. But i remember not having seen this problem on a palio, also the palio gear box is a lot more sweeter than the corsas..

But there is an intersting thread on google groups which talks about a similar problem in the hondas... i couldnt make much sense of it, but its interesting...

here is the link,

http://groups.google.co.in/group/rec...9defdf19c3f664

diven_b · 2nd June 2006, 11:05

in petrol cars i always use 1st,but sometimes when i drive a diesel suv,i just put it into 2nd and keep it that way cause 2nd is good for 0-50 kmph,so no hassels in the city

2fast4u · 2nd June 2006, 14:23

always 1st as thats its purpose to get u started of standstill and when its the biggest gear after reverse it sure has a reason.
however on downhill if i were to start id let it roll in neutral and may be engage in 3rd 4th depending on speed.
cheers

ancer · 2nd June 2006, 14:25

have the same problem in my lancer with the gears while slowing down. i have to wrestle my gear into 1st from 2nd although some times i ride the clutch for a bit and then change seems to help .... but not adviced as the clutch will become the problem.

iraghava · 2nd June 2006, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Fuelled

@hellspawn- its more to with OHC than the way raghav drives. and his clutch is shot big time.. he jst messes with us saying he got it stiffened

Oh shut up the clutch is absolutely perfect!! I got it adjusted and it works perfectly now. Ask Hellspawn he drove it again the other day after the adjustment had been done.

And just to settle all debate I am a VERY GOOD driver

I keep the car in excellent shape, don't over-rev her, drive her gently, no skids or screeches are done by me and generally I take very good, gentle care of her!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellspawn

am so suprised that ur still running on the original clutch.

Yup it's still running strong after 100k!!

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28th January 2006, 10:39	#31
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,964 Thanked: 333 Times View My Garage	I always start with 1st gear except when driving my jeep or a truck.
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28th January 2006, 12:32	#32
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 19 Times	Always Moving on with 1st Gear.
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1st June 2006, 18:48	#33
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 215 Thanked: 67 Times	My MPFI Esteem stalls if I change to 2nd from 1st at low speed say around 10 KMPH. What can be the problem .So if I am driving in trafic I need to use the 1st gear more frequently . Can it be an issue with the clutch the car has done 78000km on the standard clutch .
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1st June 2006, 20:35	#34
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	Ist to start, then immediately on 2nd, I think Ist was made for this!
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1st June 2006, 22:07	#35
carfreak BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Udupi Posts: 599 Thanked: 343 Times	1st gear from standstill.always!!
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2nd June 2006, 00:54	#36
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,830 Thanked: 5,865 Times	always 1st gear.IF u use 2nd gear from starting from standstill u are eating the clutch up as u will have to release the clutch slowly and it keeps rubbing against the flywheel until u release the entire clutch.In 2nd gear case u take longer to release the entire clutch as compared to 1st gear
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2nd June 2006, 02:27	#37
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,993 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	1st always to start from a standstill and my driving style means that when I start driving a new car within a few thousand k's I use the gearbox in a manner that you can downshift into 1st even uptill speeds of 30 kmph.
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2nd June 2006, 05:31	#39
Fuelled BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: delhi Posts: 252 Thanked: 2 Times	Yup First gear is the best, I'm sure thats why its called the first ;-) On a more technical approach. It is the first gear's job to get a car moving from standstill. Generally cars dont produce any torque at low rpms that's required for moving the car along. Hence 1st is geared lowest, so that the car gains revs easily for the speed it attains and the effort requires vs 2nd is also lowered(cos second has i geared higher, hence the engine revs less for a given speed attained) I looked up my manual and it says 1st gear to be kept till 20(for a XING) BUT i'm such a nice person that i keep it till 40kmph ;-) Though many people have tried to make sense into me saying first is only to get the car rolling n second thereafter. But i stil dont think that they're right and i'm wrong. @hellspawn- its more to with OHC than the way raghav drives. and his clutch is shot big time.. he jst messes with us saying he got it stiffened PS: Just remembered from somewhere that in case of loaded trucks, volvo says first gear. But in case its unloaded then use of second from standstill. Last edited by Fuelled : 2nd June 2006 at 05:34.
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2nd June 2006, 08:24	#40
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,009 Thanked: 705 Times	While driving a regular car I use 1st gear. On my Traveller I always use 2nd (Even with the AC on) cos the 1st gear ratio is just too low. Depends on the gearing I guess.
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2nd June 2006, 11:05	#42
diven_b BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 213 Thanked: Once View My Garage	in petrol cars i always use 1st,but sometimes when i drive a diesel suv,i just put it into 2nd and keep it that way cause 2nd is good for 0-50 kmph,so no hassels in the city
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2nd June 2006, 14:23	#43
2fast4u BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: pune / Bahrain Posts: 488 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	always 1st as thats its purpose to get u started of standstill and when its the biggest gear after reverse it sure has a reason. however on downhill if i were to start id let it roll in neutral and may be engage in 3rd 4th depending on speed. cheers
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2nd June 2006, 14:25	#44
ancer BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 121 Thanked: 2 Times	have the same problem in my lancer with the gears while slowing down. i have to wrestle my gear into 1st from 2nd although some times i ride the clutch for a bit and then change seems to help .... but not adviced as the clutch will become the problem.
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