[StarScream]

Originally Posted by punitkakri

Good thought, also dual-fuel cars don't always work too well. My friend got CNG fitted into his NHC. However once this was done the car didnt perform well at all on petrol and got stalled multiple times. However the same runs well on CNG

Since it was the previous-gen City, I'm assuming it was one the old kits - the close- or open-loop type, which were a problem with Honda cars and especially that City model.

The new sequential kits are a different ball game. See FrankMehta's Civic CNG thread in ownership reports. Works like a charm. It also explains why Honda sells a company-authorized City CNG currently.

[dkaile]

What an immaculate car at a great price. Congratulations...

This 1.8TSI with the 6 speed MT is one heck of a combination. Ask me, I am enjoying it every day in my Superb. Keep revving and updating.

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by Anghammarad

That is an amazing buy. Good luck with the new car, looks like you got an awesome deal and I hope you enjoy the vehicle for years to come

And regarding the car stalling on petrol - How do you mean Punit?
So when the CNG ran out, when he switched over to petrol the car would stall?
And do you know where he got his CNG work done?
I ask because I am, as I mentioned in another thread, considering setting up CNG in my Civic for cheaper drives and also to further enhance my possible distance covered in long distance driving. (Horribly structured sentence but I hope it holds up to scrutiny)

Anyways, once again, congrats on the beauty

Yes precisely when the CNG ran out and he switched to petrol, the car usually gave him jerks and stalled. He said the problem was aggravated when he didnt use petrol for long time continuously (15 days at a go).

Understood the sentence so worry not. I will check with him where he got the CNG kit done from.

Thanks for the kind words

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by mkpiyengar

That essentially brings us to fundamental questions
1. Are petrol or diesel engines designed to run on CNG.
2. What are the implications even if we get CNG from Factory i.e Maruti Cars with CNG. Do they have any changes done to engine etc.
3. Whatever be the case, long term effects with CNG usage, wear and tear specially in case of Petrol engines. I'm assuming here that CNG was primarily recommended as Diesel substitute, for public transport to reduce pollution.

All said and done still feel best refined engines are petrol ones and no substitute for that.

Cheers
MKP

While not really technically equipped to handle this question i would say that there are definitely engine changes and a noticeable performance lag is there when compared to petrol or diesel engines. I agree that CNG was primarily bought into effect to reduce pollution.

Originally Posted by StarScream

Since it was the previous-gen City, I'm assuming it was one the old kits - the close- or open-loop type, which were a problem with Honda cars and especially that City model.

The new sequential kits are a different ball game. See FrankMehta's Civic CNG thread in ownership reports. Works like a charm. It also explains why Honda sells a company-authorized City CNG currently.

Yes it was an open loop type kit. In fact i believe now there is a CNG model available in Altis too.

Originally Posted by dkaile

What an immaculate car at a great price. Congratulations...

This 1.8TSI with the 6 speed MT is one heck of a combination. Ask me, I am enjoying it every day in my Superb. Keep revving and updating.

Thanks a ton. Well i love the feel of the engine and can totally enjoying it.

[issigonis]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

The 7 speed is offered on the Superb with exactly the same engine. But VW offered the Passat petrol only with an M/T. In fact I think they switched to Tsi and MT after there were a lot of problems with the DSGs they had earlier.

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Surprised that they used the 7 speed DSG which I remember were to be mated to lighter engines, in VW technical literature. I will try to dig out the reference material.

Regards

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by issigonis

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Surprised that they used the 7 speed DSG which I remember were to be mated to lighter engines, in VW technical literature. I will try to dig out the reference material.

Regards

Well the 7 Speed DSG was also used with the 2.0 diesel engines in the Passat and Superb. I believe it is also in use in the current gen Passat.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by punitkakri

Well the 7 Speed DSG was also used with the 2.0 diesel engines in the Passat and Superb. I believe it is also in use in the current gen Passat.

Incorrect. The Diesel Passat and Superb use a 6 speed DSG box which is completely different compared to the 7 speed found in the Superb Petrol TSi.

The Superb Petrol Tsi uses a 7 speed dry clutch whereas the diesel has a wet clutch.

The 7 speed DSG is designed for smaller engines that have a max torque output of 250Nm which is exactly what the 1.8Tsi output is.

The Passat in India was launched initially with a diesel engine featuring Pump duse technology and 6 speed DSG. Later on they upgraded the engine to CRDi and also introduced the Tsi engine but only with a 6 speed manual. The Passat TSi never had a DSG box in India.

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Incorrect. The Diesel Passat and Superb use a 6 speed DSG box which is completely different compared to the 7 speed found in the Superb Petrol TSi.

The Superb Petrol Tsi uses a 7 speed dry clutch whereas the diesel has a wet clutch.

The 7 speed DSG is designed for smaller engines that have a max torque output of 250Nm which is exactly what the 1.8Tsi output is.

The Passat in India was launched initially with a diesel engine featuring Pump duse technology and 6 speed DSG. Later on they upgraded the engine to CRDi and also introduced the Tsi engine but only with a 6 speed manual. The Passat TSi never had a DSG box in India.

Thanks for correcting me. I was under the wrong impression.

[punitkakri]

Hi Guys,
Just getting my Passat insurance renewed. I have a choice between

• Tata AIG - 26K for comprehensive insurance
• HDFC Ergo - 26K for comprehensive insurance
• Bajaj Allianz - 25 K for comprehensive

the policy features are all the same.

Any preference out of the three based on past experience?

[MetalBuff]

Originally Posted by punitkakri

Hi Guys,
Just getting my Passat insurance renewed. I have a choice between[*]Tata AIG - 26K for comprehensive insurance[*]HDFC Ergo - 26K for comprehensive insurance[*]Bajaj Allianz - 25 K for comprehensivethe policy features are all the same.

Any preference out of the three based on past experience?

Hello punit,

Congratulations on the passat! Looks as good as new!

As for the insurance bit, Bajaj allianz has the most tie-ups for cashless claim facility. You might also want to try Royal Sundaram which is significantly cheap when compared to the rest. At the same time, do ensure that your dealer has a tie-up with these RS guys.

As an example, Bajaj and the likes were quoting around 29-31k for the renewal of a zero dep insurance for a year old vento (owned by a colleague). The same was being offered by RS for less than 17k. The main reason why this got rejected? VW in navi Mumbai has no tie-up with the RS guys. And there are plenty of folks here on T-Bhp as well, who are doing well with their rides insured by RS. Good luck!

Mind PMing the details of the dealer you bought the car from? Might as well, get it added to the T-bhp directory as well if, the buying experience was really good

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by MetalBuff

Hello punit,

Congratulations on the passat! Looks as good as new!

As for the insurance bit, Bajaj allianz has the most tie-ups for cashless claim facility. You might also want to try Royal Sundaram which is significantly cheap when compared to the rest. At the same time, do ensure that your dealer has a tie-up with these RS guys.

As an example, Bajaj and the likes were quoting around 29-31k for the renewal of a zero dep insurance for a year old vento (owned by a colleague). The same was being offered by RS for less than 17k. The main reason why this got rejected? VW in navi Mumbai has no tie-up with the RS guys. And there are plenty of folks here on T-Bhp as well, who are doing well with their rides insured by RS. Good luck!

Mind PMing the details of the dealer you bought the car from? Might as well, get it added to the T-bhp directory as well if, the buying experience was really good

Thanks for the kind words on the car.

Finalized Bajaj Allianz for comprehensive insurance for Rs. 21544/-. Heard a lot of troublesome stories about Royal Sundaram so stayed away. Bajaj Allianz was fairly quick in the sense they arranged for inspection today itself and have provided me a PDF receipt. They are trying to get me the policy copy today itself. However i realistically expect it on Monday.

[MetalBuff]

Originally Posted by punitkakri

Thanks for the kind words on the car.
Finalized Bajaj Allianz for comprehensive insurance for Rs. 21544/-. Heard a lot of troublesome stories about Royal Sundaram so stayed away. Bajaj Allianz was fairly quick in the sense they arranged for inspection today itself and have provided me a PDF receipt. They are trying to get me the policy copy today itself. However i realistically expect it on Monday.

Is that a Zero Dep cover that you went for considering, it's a < 3 year old vehicle?

Bajaj Allianz is really quick when it comes to all this. No wonder, they are the favourites when it comes to automotive insurance. But, their prices are really plummeting over the roof. In your case, they seem to be almost at par, though.

Royal Sundaram's horror stories!! Ah, well in that case, I need to read up more as, I was really impressed by their enthusiasm to come up on to with dirt-cheap premiums. But, not everything can be as good as it sounds.

So, in short, taking a hard copy of the PDF should be good and so, there's virtually nothing now which should deter you from taking your silver beauty for a joy ride . All set?

-Shivang Gandotra

[punitkakri]

Originally Posted by MetalBuff

Is that a Zero Dep cover that you went for considering, it's a < 3 year old vehicle?

Bajaj Allianz is really quick when it comes to all this. No wonder, they are the favourites when it comes to automotive insurance. But, their prices are really plummeting over the roof. In your case, they seem to be almost at par, though.

Royal Sundaram's horror stories!! Ah, well in that case, I need to read up more as, I was really impressed by their enthusiasm to come up on to with dirt-cheap premiums. But, not everything can be as good as it sounds.

So, in short, taking a hard copy of the PDF should be good and so, there's virtually nothing now which should deter you from taking your silver beauty for a joy ride . All set?

-Shivang Gandotra

All set. In fact just received the PDf of the complete policy by Bajaj Allianz. Pleasantly surprised by this. Good job. End to end in a day including inspection.

[ajmat]

I have been running a Passt TSI over the past few days. It actually feels a lot lighter than my Jetta although the Jetta is more tactile in response. One reason is that I have a heavier engine at the front end

Extremely smooth engine and gearshift. It is a bit floaty at speed (my example has done 36000km). A fairly pleasant car. Wife likes the bum warmers. I actually find the car easier to place in traffic, maybe since the seat positioning is much higher.

[bhp]

I have just got myself a similar car just a couple of days back.

It is NOV 2010 model run only 11k kms. In love with it.

Some pictures :-