[morphin1]

Hi guys,
Nice review.I have had BMW for about the last 9 years. First the 3series and then the X3.
I am thinking of buying the XC60 but had a few queries:
1. Resale value of Volvo as compared to BMW and Mercedes after 5 years.
2. Reliability of the XC60.
3. Approx what value I can expect to get when I sell the XC60 after 5 years and 90k KMS.
4. If looking at branding is Volvo now considered at par with BMW and Mercedes?
5. How is the after sales and service experience with Volvo. BMW dealers have become greedy and I do not place much faith in them anymore.
6. Also am considering the Endeavor as it is half the cost and will be a tension free ownership.
Any inputs will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance guys

[V.Narayan]

2. Reliability of the XC60.

Excellent. Couldn't be better.

4. If looking at branding is Volvo now considered at par with BMW and Mercedes?

Value and esteem is in the eyes of the beholder. Depends on whether you are trying to impress Mr. Sharma next door who in all probability is immersed in thoughts about himself rather than your car brand. In terms of interior quality I would say Volvo is up there if not better. Just the view of one man though.

5. How is the after sales and service experience with Volvo. BMW dealers have become greedy and I do not place much faith in them anymore.

Excellent in my personal experience in 3+ years. There is no culture of skimming the client. The car is so well designed it actually needs very little maintenance and in my 40,000+ kms not a single part has needed repair or replacement. My Xc60 does about 1000 kms a month.

Originally Posted by morphin1

I am thinking of buying the XC60 but had a few queries:
1. Resale value of Volvo as compared to BMW and Mercedes after 5 years.//3. Approx what value I can expect to get when I sell the XC60 after 5 years and 90k KMS.

No idea. The second sale value is so much lower in any case for any luxury car that relative to what you invest today the difference of Rs. 3 to 5 lakhs 5 years out is minimal. My advice after having bought and sold a dozen odd cars - don't buy a car for its believed re-sale value. Buy it for what need of yours (practical & status) that it fulfills. Same for the home you buy.

There are well written reviews of the Volvo by psispace & jfxavier. Mine on the XC60 is at http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...-years-up.html

[volkman10]

2018 Volvo XC60 T8 Does 0 to 100 Km/hr in 5.3 Seconds.

T8 is the flagship of the range, delivering 407 HP with a little help from electricity.

The official numbers say the XC60 T8 will do 0 to 100 km/h in 5.3 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx4x1TMxKfk

Link

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

ACI compares the new XC60 with the competition - BMW X3, Audi Q5, JLR Discovery Sport & Mercedes GLC - and it's the Volvo that comes on top -

https://youtu.be/udmv1iI5rVY

[sunny310c]

Got the polestar performance upgrade on my XC60 last week. Didn't get the badge yet as they don't have it in stock and have placed an order for it. The upgrade itself took just about 30 minutes, although I had to wait for close to 3.5 hours at the service centre for them to get all the approvals (because of the discount I got for the upgrade).

Coming to the upgrade, my initial, like first 1 minute of driving didn't really feel any different from before, and I was a bit underwhelmed. Then I hit some traffic and that's when I realised the difference. At slow speeds, like 15 - 20 kmph, when a bit of space opens up ahead and you want to dart into it, I could never do that earlier unless I used the paddle shifters but after the polestar upgrade, the car is ready to lunge forward at the slightest of touch of the accelerator. Its still not as rapid or as dramatic as I had expected it after having read various reviews on tbhp and other sites but it's definitely noticeable. The car is definitely more responsive and I am enjoying the eagerness with which it wants to accelerate in city driving conditions (short burst of acceleration to do quick overtakes).

I am wondering if the fact that the new XC60 has power pulse technology, has anything to do with the not so dramatic change in the responsiveness I am seeing after the polestar upgrade. I mean, the review I have read talk about the car becoming a totally different beast after the upgrade, so much so that you have to learn how to feather the throttle all over again, like in a new car. I didn't need to do that, probably because the car was not as sluggish as the older generation (without power pulse).

Anyway, I am still loving the change in the car and don't regret getting the upgrade done.

[PPS]

Volvo India has launched a new entry level variant of the XC60 which is 7 lakh cheaper than the Insription variant.

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...90-lakh-409768

The model was so far available only in top-spec D5 Inscription trim, but now comes in a new lower D4 Momentum variant as well. At Rs.52.90 lakh, it’s a full Rs7 lakh easier on your wallet than the Inscription which is priced at Rs 59.90 lakh.

The XC60 D4 Momentum comes with a slightly less powerful 190hp/400Nm, 2.0 litre diesel engine as compared to the 235hp/480Nm version on the higher trim. All-wheel drive via an eight-speed automatic gearbox remains but the Momentum does lose out on air suspension, relying on steel springs instead.
On the outside, the Momentum features a plain piano black finish on the grille (as opposed to the Inscription's chrome-heavy grille) and also makes the switch to smaller 18-inch alloy wheels with a simpler design.
As far as features go, the XC60 Momentum misses out on seats with ventilation, heating and massage functions, a blind spot monitor, 360-degree parking camera, auto parking system, head-up display and the Bowers and Wilkins audio system. However, it does come with adaptive cruise control with Pilot Assist, front and rear parking sensors, LED headlights and DRLs, a panoramic sunroof, digital instrument panel and the 9-inch touchscreen infotainment system.

[tommani]

Is there any possibility of the T8 plug in hybrid to be launched in india soon ?? Next 6 months perhaps ? With Volvo india having announced earlier in the year that they are looking at electrification very seriously in the future.

[ipsanand]

I am torn between this car and new BMW X3 and outgoing BMW X5 (previous generation model that's going end of life and hence available on steep discount).

Any pros/cons/comparisons from those who've gone through the same decision cycle earlier?

[avinash_clt]

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

The SPA platform is apparently so stiff that the B/C/D pillars will not get crushed even in case of a rollover (can be seen in the crash test video above). Unlike the Germans, Volvo fits laminated glass all round that doesn't shatter and hurt passengers in the event of a crash in every car produced right now. Due to this rear curtain airbags are deemed unnecessary on the new platform.

The rear curtain airbags are present in my V40 which is based on the older platform. So it is obvious that some serious thought has gone into improving structural rigidity before deleting the rear curtain airbags.

I think you are trying to refer to the rear side-airbags and not to the rear curtain-airbags.

Rear/Front curtain airbag is the single unit on the roof, stretching along the length of the occupant rows. It is intended for head impact protection, in the case of roll-over accidents as well as during side impacts (tested by ENCAP with a Pole test or Mobile Deformable Barrier).
All Volvos have curtain airbags that extend to the rear, as is the case with all cars with standard 6/7 airbag configuration.

Historically Volvo hasn't been providing rear side airbags, at least not for any model since 2000, including the V40. So they haven't been 'deleted' really.
I do not know why Volvo chooses to do so, whether it is their superior crash structure or due to the fact that side impact test evaluation and dummy readings are primarily for the driver/front passenger alone. If I'm not mistaken they are not tested with adult occupants in the rear seat.
On the contrary, rear side airbags are usually standard or optional in the premium Germans, depending on market and variants. In India, they have filtered down to the likes of Octavia(since mk3) / Superb(since mk2) etc.

Originally Posted by katchkamalesh

In the early 2000’s, Mercedes had launched a new type of electrically actuated brake (brake-by-wire) system. After the launch, complaints started pouring in from its customers regarding undesirable braking response. Mercedes had stopped offering brake-by-wire systems and they rolled back to conventional hydraulic system.

Among non-hybrid vehicles, Alfa Romeo currently employs a brake-by-wire system in Guilia/Stelvio vehicles (supplied by Continental), and the reviews of the setup are positive. If the system has good levels of feedback, now the opportunity opens up to even have different modes of brake pedal sensitivity/feedback etc.

Originally Posted by Jaggu

The Smaller yet Significant Things

These switches are for the rear seatback and tailgate:
Attachment 1717640

Two switches and indeed for folding the rear seatback. If I'm not mistaken, the other two switches are for adjusting the vehicle height at the rear (using the air suspension) for easier loading, and not for the tailgate.

[sumukha]

Originally Posted by sunny310c

Got the polestar performance upgrade on my XC60 last week. Didn't get the badge yet as they don't have it in stock and have placed an order for it. The upgrade itself took just about 30 minutes, although I had to wait for close to 3.5 hours at the service centre for them to get all the approvals (because of the discount I got for the upgrade).

How is the performance now. By the way how much it costed you to upgrade ?

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by avinash_clt

Two switches and indeed for folding the rear seatback. If I'm not mistaken, the other two switches are for adjusting the vehicle height at the rear (using the air suspension) for easier loading, and not for the tailgate.

Thanks for pointing it out, will correct the same. This drive was done in a very short time so there were some misses from my end :(

[sweetvar26]

Originally Posted by sunny310c

Got the polestar performance upgrade on my XC60 last week. Didn't get the badge yet as they don't have it in stock and have placed an order for it. The upgrade itself took just about 30 minutes, although I had to wait for close to 3.5 hours at the service centre for them to get all the approvals (because of the discount I got for the upgrade).

Coming to the upgrade, my initial, like first 1 minute of driving didn't really feel any different from before, and I was a bit underwhelmed. Then I hit some traffic and that's when I realised the difference. At slow speeds, like 15 - 20 kmph, when a bit of space opens up ahead and you want to dart into it, I could never do that earlier unless I used the paddle shifters but after the polestar upgrade, the car is ready to lunge forward at the slightest of touch of the accelerator. Its still not as rapid or as dramatic as I had expected it after having read various reviews on tbhp and other sites but it's definitely noticeable. The car is definitely more responsive and I am enjoying the eagerness with which it wants to accelerate in city driving conditions (short burst of acceleration to do quick overtakes).

I am wondering if the fact that the new XC60 has power pulse technology, has anything to do with the not so dramatic change in the responsiveness I am seeing after the polestar upgrade. I mean, the review I have read talk about the car becoming a totally different beast after the upgrade, so much so that you have to learn how to feather the throttle all over again, like in a new car. I didn't need to do that, probably because the car was not as sluggish as the older generation (without power pulse).

Anyway, I am still loving the change in the car and don't regret getting the upgrade done.

How much do they charge for the upgrade and what are the power and torque bumps post upgrade?

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by ipsanand

I am torn between this car and new BMW X3 and outgoing BMW X5 (previous generation model that's going end of life and hence available on steep discount).

If you enjoy driving don't look anything else beyond the X5. Nothing comes close to that 6 Cylinder engine. Newer X5 will be pricer and since you will be buying at huge discounts 15-18 lac I believe, you will have a better resale. If you are a sedate driver and need something more comfortable, XC60 might be better.

[sweetvar26]

What is the on road pricing on the D5? With an ex showroom of 60L, are we looking at an on road pricing of 70L?

Is Volvo giving good offers on the car?

[BlackPearl]

Took a long test drive of both the Volvo XC 60 and Evoque. Features and interior quality wise, the Volvo is far ahead of the Range Rover. But I liked the ride and handling as well as the gear shifts more on the Evoque. The Evoque felt faster as well inspite of being lower on bhp. The new XC 60 also does not have the paddle shifters. I know that paddle shifters are hardly used in a crossover, but it would still be good to have. I did not feel confident about the radar based adaptive cruise control as it felt that it had missed recognising a cyclist, but I can't be 100 percent sure. Absolutely loved the offroad mode where the vehicle is raised by several millimeters. So took it to the nearby field to check the ground clearance

https://youtu.be/Kpxo7Zg-wAo