Safari LX Joins the Team

Absar · 21st June 2007, 22:39

Hey! That's an awesome SUV you've got there. Also the Hella 4000 Rallye's go well with the looks of the car. Where'd you get the turbo timer from? And its pricing?

A

Godfather · 22nd June 2007, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Absar

Hey! That's an awesome SUV you've got there. Also the Hella 4000 Rallye's go well with the looks of the car. Where'd you get the turbo timer from? And its pricing?

A

Thanks bro.. The Turbo Timer was bought from US and costed me 100 US$

Godfather

alabjarus · 27th June 2007, 09:44

Godfather, out of ignorance...why is a turbo timer required for a Safari.

Wiki says "A turbo timer is a device designed to keep an automotive engine running for a pre-specified period of time in order to automatically execute the cool-down period required to prevent premature turbo wear and failure. After a period of driving when a turbocharger has been working hard, it is important to let the engine run at idle speed for a period of time, allowing the compressor assembly to cool from the lower gas temperatures in both the exhaust and intake tracts. At the same time the lubricating oil from the engine is able to circulate properly so the turbine won't burn the lubricating oil that would otherwise be trapped within the charger with the turbine rotating at high speed. With regard to modern automotive turbochargers, the need for a turbo timer can be eliminated by simply ensuring the car does not produce any 'boost' (during driving) for several minutes prior to the ignition being shut off".

Steeroid · 27th June 2007, 12:54

You answered your own question:

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Originally Posted by alabjarus

With regard to modern automotive turbochargers, the need for a turbo timer can be eliminated by simply ensuring the car does not produce any 'boost' (during driving) for several minutes prior to the ignition being shut off".

Who's got the patience to drive under limits when Boost cuts in 'for several minutes'?

hmishra83 · 27th June 2007, 15:10

This 'Turbo timer' discussion was informative. As always, thanks guys!

anandpadhye · 2nd July 2007, 21:15

I guess this thread is more active and as a prospective buyer, I can get all my queries answered:

I am thinking of buying the Safari, mainly for the following reasons:
1. I own an NHC 2004 and am very happy with it but for only 1 issue (Ground clearance). I need as high Ground Clearance as possible for monsoons, non-regular routes in Konkan.
2. I need some SUV that's reliable and inexpensive to maintain and has VERY GOOD suspentions.
3. Price as low as possible (I am being forced to buy another vehicle purely because there are many places and times wherein my NHC touches the road/takes beating in some other form...)

Looking at these criteria, would you recommend the Safari?
Is the engine reliable?
Everyone is talking about 2.2 vs 3.0.
Nobody is talking about Fiat engines (the multijets). If these are going to be put on Safari, I will be really stupid to buy a DICOR, right?

v1p3r · 2nd July 2007, 23:14

Engine is bulletproof. Ask the Indian Army, they use it a lot. About the maintenance, it's a Tata, so expect little niggles here and there, though Tata seem to be a lot more proactive than some other manufacturers. Overall, it's great VFM, and you can't beat the suspension.

Godfather · 3rd July 2007, 09:40

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

, it's a Tata, so expect little niggles here and there, though Tata seem to be a lot more proactive than some other manufacturers. Overall, it's great VFM, and you can't beat the suspension.

I totally agree.. As soon as i get an issue i call up the dealership and inform them.. Within minutes i get a call from a service advisor.. They come home.. rectify the issue ASAP.

Godfather

babureddy · 3rd July 2007, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Godfather

I totally agree.. As soon as i get an issue i call up the dealership and inform them.. Within minutes i get a call from a service advisor.. They come home.. rectify the issue ASAP.

Godfather

hi Godfather, are these service at our place is a part of the warrenty or do they charge extra for it. Like anybody else, after getting the delivery of my vehicle, i too find few problems, though not too much...i just wanted to get it fixed...but still have not found time to go to the service center..

kdeepakk · 3rd July 2007, 12:39

Babu reddy....when is ur vehicle arriving.....or has it arrived...if yes...put some pictures...& ur first experience...

Godfather · 3rd July 2007, 12:54

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Originally Posted by babureddy

hi Godfather, are these service at our place is a part of the warrenty or do they charge extra for it.

There is no charge for it.. Till date they have come home twice.. Once for Oil leak and again for some rattling sound where we found that the boot door was not aligned.
For the second one they took the car to the service center and delivered it back the same evening.. After that i have had no issues till date..

Godfather

simply_sunny001 · 3rd July 2007, 14:18

hi Godfather

Please post pics when u install the turbo charger and the wiring details.

Thanks buddy

crazydiablo · 3rd July 2007, 23:55

@simply sunny: he is not installing the turbocharger...he is just installing a turbo timer....this would ensure longer live and better performance of the turbo....

Godfather · 4th July 2007, 06:55

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Originally Posted by simply_sunny001

hi Godfather

Please post pics when u install the turbo charger and the wiring details.

The Dicor comes Turbo Charged from Company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiablo

@simply sunny: he is not installing the turbocharger...he is just installing a turbo timer....this would ensure longer live and better performance of the turbo....

i will be getting it fixed this saturday.. Provided Psycho is free.. Will post the pics.

Godfather

babureddy · 4th July 2007, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdeepakk

Babu reddy....when is ur vehicle arriving.....or has it arrived...if yes...put some pictures...& ur first experience...

hey deepak, my vehicle arrived last thursday

....will be posting the pics very soon...here is the link to the thread about my experience
Quartz Black Safari Dicor Lx Joins

21st June 2007, 22:39	#31
Absar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madras Posts: 560 Thanked: 10 Times View My Garage	Hey! That's an awesome SUV you've got there. Also the Hella 4000 Rallye's go well with the looks of the car. Where'd you get the turbo timer from? And its pricing? A
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27th June 2007, 09:44	#33
alabjarus BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 210 Thanked: 78 Times	Godfather, out of ignorance...why is a turbo timer required for a Safari. Wiki says "A turbo timer is a device designed to keep an automotive engine running for a pre-specified period of time in order to automatically execute the cool-down period required to prevent premature turbo wear and failure. After a period of driving when a turbocharger has been working hard, it is important to let the engine run at idle speed for a period of time, allowing the compressor assembly to cool from the lower gas temperatures in both the exhaust and intake tracts. At the same time the lubricating oil from the engine is able to circulate properly so the turbine won't burn the lubricating oil that would otherwise be trapped within the charger with the turbine rotating at high speed. With regard to modern automotive turbochargers, the need for a turbo timer can be eliminated by simply ensuring the car does not produce any 'boost' (during driving) for several minutes prior to the ignition being shut off".
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27th June 2007, 15:10	#35
hmishra83 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City & New Delhi Posts: 222 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	This 'Turbo timer' discussion was informative. As always, thanks guys!
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2nd July 2007, 21:15	#36
anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,054 Thanked: 3,313 Times	I guess this thread is more active and as a prospective buyer, I can get all my queries answered: I am thinking of buying the Safari, mainly for the following reasons: 1. I own an NHC 2004 and am very happy with it but for only 1 issue (Ground clearance). I need as high Ground Clearance as possible for monsoons, non-regular routes in Konkan. 2. I need some SUV that's reliable and inexpensive to maintain and has VERY GOOD suspentions. 3. Price as low as possible (I am being forced to buy another vehicle purely because there are many places and times wherein my NHC touches the road/takes beating in some other form...) Looking at these criteria, would you recommend the Safari? Is the engine reliable? Everyone is talking about 2.2 vs 3.0. Nobody is talking about Fiat engines (the multijets). If these are going to be put on Safari, I will be really stupid to buy a DICOR, right?
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2nd July 2007, 23:14	#37
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Engine is bulletproof. Ask the Indian Army, they use it a lot. About the maintenance, it's a Tata, so expect little niggles here and there, though Tata seem to be a lot more proactive than some other manufacturers. Overall, it's great VFM, and you can't beat the suspension.
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3rd July 2007, 12:39	#40
kdeepakk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 272 Thanked: 99 Times View My Garage	Babu reddy....when is ur vehicle arriving.....or has it arrived...if yes...put some pictures...& ur first experience...
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3rd July 2007, 14:18	#42
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	hi Godfather Please post pics when u install the turbo charger and the wiring details. Thanks buddy
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3rd July 2007, 23:55	#43
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	@simply sunny: he is not installing the turbocharger...he is just installing a turbo timer....this would ensure longer live and better performance of the turbo....
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