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Old 11th June 2019, 22:04   #46
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Seeing increase in road rage incidents in NCR and next to no traffic sense, i wanted to make myself feel a little secure and decided to procure a dashcam. I already had Transcend Drivepro 100 dashcam purchased 3 years back, but it was powered through Li-ion battery. There is always a risk with battery powered dashcam especially with the heat we face here.

Requirements:
1. Capacitor powered
2. Dual channel
3. Wi-Fi feature for ease of data access.

After researching a lot on Team-BHP and dashcam forums, i placed order for Viofo-A129 Duo on Aliexpress. It had all the features i needed and was quite VFM. The package arrived in a little over a month as it was retained by Customs for some reason. Thankfully, i was not charged any duty.

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I was pretty clear that i don't want to risk my warranty with hardwire install. ES has 4 USB ports plus an additional power outlet in the central console. I decided to plug-in USB adapter that came with the dashcam inside the center console. That way i didn't need to fiddle with it daily, and it'll be quite discreet too.

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There was sufficient gap between the armrest and center console trim for the wire to pass through.
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I installed the power cable first from the IRVM, passing through A-pillar trim. I made sure that the cable should not hinder inflation of side airbag, incase of an unfortunate incident. I wish it never comes to that.

For this, i routed the cable from behind the airbag.

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Then from behind driver side dashboard trim to the under the driver side seat from the door sills.

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As it's dual channel dashcam, i also needed to run a wire from front dashcam all the way to the back, i removed B pillar trim, and routed the wire alonside power cable all the way to the back seat, beneath the trims.

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Installed front dashcam behind IRVM and rear dashcam on the extreme right side as it was hindering operation of powered sunshade.


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Question for ES owners: Is the ground clearance sufficient and how does it compare to an E (LWB)?

We are evaluating E, 6GT and the ES
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Question for ES owners: Is the ground clearance sufficient and how does it compare to an E (LWB)?

We are evaluating E, 6GT and the ES
The ground clearance in practise is better than the E - LWB though in exact mm it is probably the same. The difference coming from the longer wheel base of the E. We scrape badly made speed breakers about 3 to 5 times a year only when loosed with 4 pax. It almost never happens with only one or two pax. Hope this helps. All the best with your selection. I don't know about 6GT but the E and ES are both excellent cars. Our ES is now 30 months and about 35,000 kgs old.
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As per my contacts, Lexus will start assembly of ES here in India at the start of 2020 Though they have categorically told the dealers that there will be No change in the Prices, I expect some reduction going forward. At present, there is a lot of ES inventory at dealerships and you can negotiate some Discounts.

Frankly, 6GT can be ignored. E Class does has its own presence and is loaded well whereas ES will give you a different feel. Tough choice
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As per my contacts, Lexus will start assembly of ES here in India at the start of 2020 Though they have categorically told the dealers that there will be No change in the Prices, I expect some reduction going forward. At present, there is a lot of ES inventory at dealerships and you can negotiate some Discounts.

Frankly, 6GT can be ignored. E Class does has its own presence and is loaded well whereas ES will give you a different feel. Tough choice
Thanks for the tip! An uncle of mine is in the market for a mid size and he was convinced with the ES. I'll tell him to wait a few months now.

Frankly the 6GT and E350 are too expensive, close to a crore on road in Kerala. Compared to that, ES and S90 are absolute bargains for ~75L each. Add the novelty factor in as well.
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Question for ES owners: Is the ground clearance sufficient and how does it compare to an E (LWB)?

We are evaluating E, 6GT and the ES
The ground clearance is a big let down. It somewhat helps with the stance of the car as compared to LWB E class, which appears as it's on stilts. But in the end, it wouldn't bottom out like the ES.


The car scrapes pretty badly on quite a lot of speed bumps when loaded with 4 passengers as the wheelbase is increased by 50 mm compared to 6th gen ES while the GC is same. On my car the underbody shielding is shredded at 4 places due to it.

I'm thinking of upsizing tires from 235/45 R18 to 235/50 R18. It'll give me additional ground clearance of 1.2 cm.

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The ground clearance in practise is better than the E - LWB though in exact mm it is probably the same. The difference coming from the longer wheel base of the E. We scrape badly made speed breakers about 3 to 5 times a year only when loosed with 4 pax. It almost never happens with only one or two pax. Hope this helps. All the best with your selection. I don't know about 6GT but the E and ES are both excellent cars. Our ES is now 30 months and about 35,000 kgs old.
Thanks a lot! This really helps. Of course we are smitten by the E but it is becoming more and more mainstream now and having lived in the US earlier, I know that the Lexus holds it's own when it comes to the Germans.

Considering we are not bhp crazy and are really wanting a good, supremely comfortable sedan, the ES is looking more and more good as a package. I personally covet it a lot and was already sold thanks to the Mark Levinson system, but others in my family don't really care!

Edit: looking at Dhruv29's post, it seems the GC is a big issue. I remember increasing the GC of our old Civic by upsizing the tires from 205/55 to 205/60 so the GC went up by almost 20mm.

Theoretically upsizing should be possible on the ES but the I'm not sure if there is enough space in the wheel well and what cost this would entail.

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Thanks a lot! This really helps. Of course we are smitten by the E but it is becoming more and more mainstream now and having lived in the US earlier, I know that the Lexus holds it's own when it comes to the Germans.

Considering we are not bhp crazy and are really wanting a good, supremely comfortable sedan, the ES is looking more and more good as a package. I personally covet it a lot
In terms of reliability and absolutely first class ASS I would give Lexus high marks. I didn't go for a Merc as too many of my employees had given exasperated feedback on its ASS, hydro locking and frequent breakdowns. This was the previous E not the one the current one.

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Edit: looking at Dhruv29's post, it seems the GC is a big issue. I remember increasing the GC of our old Civic by upsizing the tires from 205/55 to 205/60 so the GC went up by almost 20mm.
Both experiences are correct. It is also a function of driving styles.

My owner's review over a 2+ year period is here:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-...km-update.html (Lexus ES300h - Owner's Review. EDIT: 2 year, 30,000 km update)

Best of luck with your purchase decision.
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In terms of reliability and absolutely first class ASS I would give Lexus high marks. I didn't go for a Merc as too many of my employees had given exasperated feedback on its ASS, hydro locking and frequent breakdowns. This was the previous E not the one the current one.

+1, these guys ruin you for other brand's A.S.S and reliability. The procedures and protocol they follow during servicing is much better than Mercedes A.S.S, they'll return the car next day even for normal oil change. Where as the turn around time for ES is 3-4 hours. We can say that this is due to lesser number of Lexus on road but they just operate out of 2-3 service lifts in the service center.

ES is truly fill it, shut it, forget it type of car. The brake pads and discs will at least last for 40,000 km due to regen braking by the hybrid motor. Even if there is a need to replace the pads, they'll only cost around 10,000 for both front and back.
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Requirements:
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2. Dual channel
3. Wi-Fi feature for ease of data access.

After researching a lot on Team-BHP and dashcam forums, i placed order for Viofo-A129 Duo on Aliexpress. It had all the features i needed and was quite VFM. The package arrived in a little over a month as it was retained by Customs for some reason. Thankfully, i was not charged any duty.
Congrats on the lovely car. One of my aspirations.

Looks like the entire fitment was done as DIY. Hope its as easy as you explained. Did you get the rear camera connecting wire as part of the package?. Also did you get the polarising lens cover as part of the package?. Checked in aliexpress. Price looks to be reasonable compared to Amazon. Planning to order one. Hence checking. Thanks
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Did you get the rear camera connecting wire as part of the package?. Also did you get the polarising lens cover as part of the package?.
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The wire was part of the package. It’ll come along if you’ll select the dual channel camera. You’ll have to buy the polarising lens cover separate from the camera. I was satisfied with video quality without the lens so i didn’t order one.
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