MY BEAST - Safari 2.2 EX (Mountain Green) - 15900 KM done...

jkdas · 10th August 2008, 09:57

CAT clean for 1000rs? IS it coz of bad diesel?

bhagathmp · 10th August 2008, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Ishlesh

Labor 955/- (Cleaning Cat Converter+Brake Disk Adj+Wheel Bal+Alignment)

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Originally Posted by jkdas

CAT clean for 1000rs? IS it coz of bad diesel?

The 1K bill was for CAT+misc. and it had done 15k plus on the odo. I would think this is normal for 2nd service and also irrespective of the qlty of the fuel. I could be wrong here.

JK i guess you are closing in on 15k soon aren’t you?

Bugs

sudev · 10th August 2008, 12:34

Is this norm for all diesels? In almost 60k for my GV no charges for CAT or that mater 150k on my last Esteem (and host of other cars) no charges for cleaning of CAT. Replacement due to under body damage yes but cleaning?

If I recall correctly a CAT not working cleanly and/or not at operating temperatures gets poisoned and becomes useless. In the case of petrol vehicles I have not had a CAT failure.

gowda79 · 10th August 2008, 12:41

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Originally Posted by bhagathmp

The 1K bill was for CAT+misc. and it had done 15k plus on the odo. I would think this is normal for 2nd service and also irrespective of the qlty of the fuel. I could be wrong here.

JK i guess you are closing in on 15k soon aren’t you?

Bugs

Bhagat my vehicle went for a 2nd service for 15000kms last week and the amount charged was Rs4,135 that includes

Horn - Rs.550
Upholstery Cleaning - Rs.1000

will let you know other charges later

bIte tHe bulLet · 10th August 2008, 22:32

hey,

nice ride dude....

the last three pics brings back happy memories!! one of the options for our 1st campsite on our trip was to the left of the bridge you are on, on a grassy knoll a short hop from the water. we discounted it finally because it was too close to the road (our younger son is 2!) and there would be too much dust...

finally our campsite was planted about 3 kms further on from the raksham board in the last pic. we did eat at the little dhaba in rarsham on two nights though!! the campsite was pretty close to the itbp camp.

we also did a gorgeous 7 day trip with the safari in may... i've been procrastinating with writing the travelogue though. will do soon!!!

cheers.

smsrini · 11th August 2008, 12:52

I did not get a cat cleaning item on my 15k service bill. Even if it is required, it should be FOC, under warranty and 2nd service IMO, unless they can prove that it is due to bad fuel or whatever.

No engine flush either. Is this something recommended ?

cheers!

jkdas · 11th August 2008, 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhagathmp

The 1K bill was for CAT+misc. and it had done 15k plus on the odo. I would think this is normal for 2nd service and also irrespective of the qlty of the fuel. I could be wrong here.

JK i guess you are closing in on 15k soon aren’t you?

Bugs

In a week or two

Quote:

Originally Posted by gowda79

Bhagat my vehicle went for a 2nd service for 15000kms last week and the amount charged was Rs4,135 that includes

Horn - Rs.550
Upholstery Cleaning - Rs.1000

will let you know other charges later

2000 Rs for oil and filter change right?

550Rs included what? You got them the horn? Where was it fitted? I was charged 800 something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smsrini

I did not get a cat cleaning item on my 15k service bill. Even if it is required, it should be FOC, under warranty and 2nd service IMO, unless they can prove that it is due to bad fuel or whatever.

No engine flush either. Is this something recommended ?

cheers!

CAT clean at 15k is kind of new news to me.

I dont think engine flush is recommended for every oil change.

bhagathmp · 11th August 2008, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by smsrini

No engine flush either. Is this something recommended ?

cheers!

Hi smsrini please refer to the below thread.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...checklist.html

This talks about the service check list and much more. I'm yet to go thru the complete thread myself

so not really sure what all you may find in it. Have a look I'm sure its going to help you a lot with the questions you have.

Bugs.

Ishlesh · 17th August 2008, 20:44

As promised...

Art Leather Seat Covers

Cabinet for my JBL GT5 Ovals (DIY)

Ishlesh · 9th September 2008, 22:13

Have observed moisture in LHS Head Lamps of my vehicle - and the same is not drying for last fortnight.

Also have observed the same in couple of other 2.2 l Safaris accross the city.

Ishlesh

harjeev · 10th September 2008, 05:04

i observed moisture in my car too and that too in the LHS headlight.
I got it changed FOC under warranty.
You do the same

dadu · 10th September 2008, 09:19

A sealant is used to fix the headlight assembly, but if you have had even a smalll hit on the front, the shock will open it up for the water/ moisture formation.

Most of the cases I have seen have had a hit. But you can get it covered under warranty.

Engine flush can be used(not mandatory) at min 10k and then every 20k Kms as per TATA and depends if you are facing any problems.

Steeroid · 10th September 2008, 09:29

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Originally Posted by sudev

Cleaning CAT converter? Why? Is there so much soot generation? In that case wouldn't CAT have died (technically: poisoned) Any one else who got this item on bill?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

CAT clean for 1000rs? IS it coz of bad diesel?

Why is the Cat being cleaned at 15k?

And an engine flush so early in life?

I think your dealer is making $$$ at your expense. Please ask him for a refund unless you have specifically requested for the same.

Holyghost · 10th September 2008, 13:03

I got my car serviced 2 days ago for the 15K KM. I was out of station and hence my friend took it to Prerana Motors. The Total bill amount came to Rs 6000 for the so called free service.

The following are the costs:

Engine Oil Castrol CH4 -----------: 1734
Differential Oil EP 140 Castrol -----: 396
Coolant Top up ------------------: 60
Brake Fluid ----------------------: 24
Assy Fuel Filter Delphi -----------: 2163
Bardahl Special Duty ------------: 444
Assy Oil Filter -------------------: 161
Fuel Filter Cartridge Renew ------: 250
Misc (Grease, WD40, Cotton..) --: 85
Total VAT on parts -------------: 629
Service tax ---------------------: 30

Total: Rs 5976

Is the dealer cheating on me? if yes whom should I complain?
I was getting very low average of around 9kmpl on highways for the past 2 months. I think the Diesel Filter Assy was changed due to that. When looking at the individual costs everything looks ok, but a final bill of Rs 6000 for a free service doesn't look ok for me.

What do you guys say?

simply_sunny001 · 10th September 2008, 13:34

Yes,they shouldnt have changed the Assy Fuel Filter Delphi -----------: 2163 at 15K kms.

this has been a mistake and some other T-bhp member also faced that.

Assy Fuel Filter should be changed at 30k.

Had this not been done,your bill would have been around 3.8k and its all reasonable.

10th August 2008, 09:57	#16
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	CAT clean for 1000rs? IS it coz of bad diesel?
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10th August 2008, 12:34	#18
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Is this norm for all diesels? In almost 60k for my GV no charges for CAT or that mater 150k on my last Esteem (and host of other cars) no charges for cleaning of CAT. Replacement due to under body damage yes but cleaning? If I recall correctly a CAT not working cleanly and/or not at operating temperatures gets poisoned and becomes useless. In the case of petrol vehicles I have not had a CAT failure.
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10th August 2008, 22:32	#20
bIte tHe bulLet BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 441 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	hey, nice ride dude.... the last three pics brings back happy memories!! one of the options for our 1st campsite on our trip was to the left of the bridge you are on, on a grassy knoll a short hop from the water. we discounted it finally because it was too close to the road (our younger son is 2!) and there would be too much dust... finally our campsite was planted about 3 kms further on from the raksham board in the last pic. we did eat at the little dhaba in rarsham on two nights though!! the campsite was pretty close to the itbp camp. we also did a gorgeous 7 day trip with the safari in may... i've been procrastinating with writing the travelogue though. will do soon!!! cheers.
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11th August 2008, 12:52	#21
smsrini Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,115 Thanked: 426 Times View My Garage	I did not get a cat cleaning item on my 15k service bill. Even if it is required, it should be FOC, under warranty and 2nd service IMO, unless they can prove that it is due to bad fuel or whatever. No engine flush either. Is this something recommended ? cheers!
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17th August 2008, 20:44	#24
Ishlesh BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 52 Thanked: 6 Times	The Art of Leather & my DIY Rear Ovals Cabinet As promised... Art Leather Seat Covers Cabinet for my JBL GT5 Ovals (DIY) Attached Thumbnails
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9th September 2008, 22:13	#25
Ishlesh BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 52 Thanked: 6 Times	Moisture in Head Lamps Have observed moisture in LHS Head Lamps of my vehicle - and the same is not drying for last fortnight. Also have observed the same in couple of other 2.2 l Safaris accross the city. Ishlesh
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10th September 2008, 05:04	#26
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,899 Thanked: 292 Times View My Garage	Get them changed i observed moisture in my car too and that too in the LHS headlight. I got it changed FOC under warranty. You do the same
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10th September 2008, 09:19	#27
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,803 Thanked: 462 Times View My Garage	A sealant is used to fix the headlight assembly, but if you have had even a smalll hit on the front, the shock will open it up for the water/ moisture formation. Most of the cases I have seen have had a hit. But you can get it covered under warranty. Engine flush can be used(not mandatory) at min 10k and then every 20k Kms as per TATA and depends if you are facing any problems. Last edited by dadu : 10th September 2008 at 09:25.
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10th September 2008, 13:03	#29
Holyghost BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 593 Thanked: 1,129 Times	I got my car serviced 2 days ago for the 15K KM. I was out of station and hence my friend took it to Prerana Motors. The Total bill amount came to Rs 6000 for the so called free service. The following are the costs: Engine Oil Castrol CH4 -----------: 1734 Differential Oil EP 140 Castrol -----: 396 Coolant Top up ------------------: 60 Brake Fluid ----------------------: 24 Assy Fuel Filter Delphi -----------: 2163 Bardahl Special Duty ------------: 444 Assy Oil Filter -------------------: 161 Fuel Filter Cartridge Renew ------: 250 Misc (Grease, WD40, Cotton..) --: 85 Total VAT on parts -------------: 629 Service tax ---------------------: 30 Total: Rs 5976 Is the dealer cheating on me? if yes whom should I complain? I was getting very low average of around 9kmpl on highways for the past 2 months. I think the Diesel Filter Assy was changed due to that. When looking at the individual costs everything looks ok, but a final bill of Rs 6000 for a free service doesn't look ok for me. What do you guys say?
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10th September 2008, 13:34	#30
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Yes,they shouldnt have changed the Assy Fuel Filter Delphi -----------: 2163 at 15K kms. this has been a mistake and some other T-bhp member also faced that. Assy Fuel Filter should be changed at 30k. Had this not been done,your bill would have been around 3.8k and its all reasonable.
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