After more than a year of agonizing, I took the plunge and booked a car. I always coveted the Palio (retro) and the Stile was no different. But the choice wasn't easy.
Questions:
1) I am getting a Nov'08 car (VIN ends in LRZ), but it has Jul'08 Goodyear tyres. The tyres looked pristine. Is that kind of tyre age OK? Or, given the current state of the tyre industry (didn't J.K Tyres close their Bengal plant recently?), I shouldn't be complaining?
2) The salesperson initially said about the free stereo: "It is Clarion - same model as on Honda City"; today, while booking, he says "depending on demand, we get different models - sometimes, we might get Blaupunkt instead". Should I insist on Clarion? (seen its SQ being praised in the ICE section)
Background:
I have been driving on and off for the past decade. I have driven different cars extensively, including a few petrol hatchbacks, the Indica NA diesel and Scorpio 2.6 CRDe. I am a conservative driver, and don't try to push a car to its limits. Most of the driving has been in Bangalore - it can test one's patience, to say the least.
Requirements:
0) budget constraints imply hatchback
1) comfort for all passengers
2) space for 5 six-footers
3) it should age well (I am spoilt by a 5.5 year old LML Freedom that is as good as new)
Expected mileage is below 10K kms per year, so running costs are not as important as purchase cost. A.S.S and maintenance costs matter, but may not be a deal-breaker.
Cars ruled out:
- "Affordable" sedans like Logan, Indigo CS : not really affordable given the equipment levels, and not too crazy about the visible boot anyway
- Swift : rear seat legroom not enough, least cabin visibility among hatchbacks?
- Skoda : engines not upto the mark set by the price, and not after luxury anyway
Would like to consider, but can't:
- Spark and UV-A : Spark may not be very spacious, but it has enough and is quick and nimble; the UV-A is a favourite at home. But, the recession has made GM a very unconvincing buy (remember what happened to profitable DCM-Daewoo when the Korean parent went kaput?)
Contenders:
- Stile (1.1, 1.3 MJD) : I really, really liked it!
- Vista Safire : difficult to ignore in the same showroom!
- Xeta : price and beige interiors too good!
Stile:
My first impression of the Stile 1.1, sometime last year, was not very good.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...tml#post408424
A few months later, I tried it again and was blown away by its comfort over bad roads (Kanakapura Road in 2007). It was not a bad cruiser either. Mainly, you have to accept that it cannot do much in low revs (say below 1250 RPM). Above that, it wakes up and can handle sane demands. The A/C does seem like an insane demand and pulls down the performance immediately, but not as much as most other cars. The A/C is good too.
Front seating is good, with everything falling to hand and the driver feeling planted in the seats. Rear seating is good, though the Getz and the UV-A probably best it. Interiors are pleasant and uniform, even after you notice that it is an old design. Nobody bests its boot space, and most of all, its ride quality. Of course, with the current discounts from Tata-Fiat, nobody beats the price either - the top-end well-loaded SLX is just over 4 lakhs on-road, and all variants (even the MJD) get a USB/aux-only stereo with 2 speakers in front (supposedly Clarion).
The MJD was underwhelming, probably because I found neither the torque of an IDI diesel at low revs, nor the responsiveness I had seen on the 2.6 CRDE on the Scorpio on revving. But, it never felt lacking in power, and a shifting of gears always got me what I wanted even with A/C on. With low expected mileage on the car per year, paying 1.5 lakhs more on-road over the petrol did not seem a good idea.
The SLE variant had HVAC instead of the SL's AC, and added fog-lamps and central locking which I thought were useful (added body-coloured bumpers and front power windows too, but I have never seen the point in them). The SLX bells and whistles weren't alluring.
Vista Safire:
This is a different beast than the Stile 1.1; whoever thought 65PS wasn't going to be enough for the Vista was wrong. Its in-gear response is way better than the 1.1 Stile, and beats the Getz 1.1 that's surprisingly good in low revs. It anyway has more space than the Stile and the Getz, maybe equal with the UV-A.
But I never liked the overall exterior, and the central console was not as small an issue as I had hoped. And I am even suspecting that the showroom guys have tuned the demo vehicle for vrooming more than the stock Vista Safire! Anyway, the leaning towards Stile and the 35-40K price difference made me bypass this. But its a good vehicle.
Xeta:
I did not even test this one, as I knew an Indica would not be as good an overall car as a Stile. But at 3 lakhs on-road, with a better performing engine than the Stile, and the neat beige interiors, it was quite tempting!
Dealer experience:
After Prerana didn't even pick up the phone at 10:30 AM (?!) and Manipal were very slow only to say they had no car, I tried Concorde at Dairy Circle. From bringing the MJD down to our place for a test drive, to the showroom test drives of the 1.1 and the Vista, and to the final stock-yard visit to look at the vehicle to be alloted to us, the salesperson (Hidayat) was accomodating, courteous and reasonably good at following up. This was an above par experience - no complaints. Maybe Maruti handles customers even better, but Tata/Fiat cars handle customers better than any Maruti dealer or car ever could :-)
P.S:
- the salesperson says Concorde is buying up Green Tracks (Silk Board junction) - he acknowledged that they have built a very good reputation
- he also said Manipal Motors has closed down due to losses
- he also said he recently got trained on the Linea, and was mentioning 7-8.5 lakhs ex-showroom price range from base petrol to top-end diesel - unsurprisingly, he praised the VGT MJD as better than even the Verna; no matter - the Linea looks way better than other sedans anyway