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10th August 2022, 02:06 | #1 |
Senior - BHPian | 50 shades of green : Exploring Norway Background- I relocated to Finland back in 2012 to manage my then employers’ business with a Finnish org. This role of mine took me to all possible locations globally but of relevance to this thread are my trips to Norway of which I took one every month till 2016. Trips were always to the western coast around Bergen area and the Islands below it and occasionally to Trondheim too. The Fjords, the Landscapes, the raw beauty were always captivating and I enjoyed driving around the country-side which is pretty much everywhere in fact. Cut to spring of 2017- the ghost of Md Bin Tughlaq whispered in my ears and we had decided to relocate to US leaving Finland for good after having built a lot of memories. (Shameless plug – visit this thread for more about my Finnish lifelog). How do we reach a crescendo of Memories of Europe? We definitely needed a Holiday in one of the many of the Mesmerizing parts of Europe before we left to US. We had done Switzerland & Italy many times earlier already and they were ruled out. Frankly Switzerland is nice but quite over-rated. It was not going to be other European cities either just because we are not city-people from a Holiday stand-point. Museums, Historic places, amusement parks etc. don’t charm us as much as nature does. So, where do we go? Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder and to us, Norway is far more beautiful than Switzerland and much less Touristy and that's what we choose as holiday destination. Last edited by 14000rpm : 16th August 2023 at 14:50. |
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11th August 2022, 10:04 | #2 |
Senior - BHPian | The Planning It so happened that I had transitioned my then current role to my replacement back in April ’17 while my US visa appointment was in late June ‘17. I therefore had 2 full months of nothingness. The Norwegian trip only got better coz I was worry-free, meeting-free, work-free for the entire trip. The ideal way to go on any holiday. Picked 1.5 weeks just before the US visa appointment and then started the planning. Norway's Geography is quite long and it takes considerable amount of time to drive North to South and not feasible either since it is quite Arduous. We had a 1.5 yr old Toddler and therefore, one thing we did keep in mind while planning was a hassle free travel keeping her Pee/poo/feed timings in rhythm as at home. Where all do we go then? What should be the route? What mode of Commute? What about boarding & Lodging? Different people have had different experiences but to me, hotels in Norway are very expensive and often times with regrettable experiences. Food too is a hit or miss unless one sticks to major cities which was not our plan. Struck out Flights, Cars, Trains as they all cause disruptions to her schedule. The only option left in our List -a Motorhome!! Suddenly it all looked appealing.
A 6 passenger Motorhome for 2 adults+ 1 toddler. Felt like taking our apartment around. #Vanlife Any more details and I’ll be risking making this a thread about the Motorhome and not Norway. Will cover later in separate post(s). Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 08:50. |
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11th August 2022, 10:05 | #3 |
Senior - BHPian | Which way do we go? The Route Well, that’s the thing that was fluid. There is too much information out there about where to go and what to do. The Vestland region is filled with stunning mountains, Fjords, beautiful forests, Glaciers, Glacial lakes & Rivers always around the corner with gorgeous views of the photogenic landscape every where you look. After a point of time, it became apparent that the only feasible thing was to choose some Points of interest in Vestland part of Norway along the Tourist Route suggested by Norway tourism and start day 1. Day 2 till return was literally improvised on a daily basis ! In the end, this is the route we ended up with. For the TLDR folk: I've documented this route and POIs visited in Worldee - a travel planning app. Use this link. Note: I'm merely a user of the app and not affiliated with them in any way Last edited by Rehaan : 8th September 2023 at 02:43. Reason: Fixing worldee link (had a double https: at the start) :) |
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11th August 2022, 10:07 | #4 |
Senior - BHPian | The Prep work Picked up the campervan from the pick-up location, got trained on the ‘’how-to’s ‘’ and ‘’ what-to-do’s ‘’ about daily usage, water and gas and drove home. Took time to familiarize myself to the dimensions of the van and the power or the lack of it. I mean Serious lack of power although it must feel so due to the weight of all the equipment and furnishing onboard. Nevertheless, it wasn’t too long till it was all ok. It was only the long rear overhang took longer to get used to while parking. The Campervan had a very big storage space in the rear which meant our packing for the trip had no limits. In went Camping tables, chairs, Grill, Charcoal, bags of clothes, food, bedding, tableware, everything, literally everything till we overdid ourselves. Installed the child seat and we were ready ! Leg 1/day 1 - destination unknown. To reach the Vestland region of Norway we planned to drive to, we have to go to and cross Sweden and there are 4 ways to reach Sweden from Finland- 1. Helsinki to Stockholm via Ferry 2. Turku to Stockholm via Ferry 3. Vaasa to Umeå via ferry 4. By road via Tornio in Finland. Given the general direction of where we were headed, the Helsinki-Stockholm ferry was the preferred route. I had booked the Ferry/Cruise on Viking Line carrier for a Cabin and the Campervan. Planned departure for the 18 hr Cruise was for 5.30pm for which I had to reach at 4.30pm to check-in, load the vehicle in the Car Deck and go upstairs and chill out. That was the beginning of our Epic Roadtrip ! Did some feature discovery of the Fiat Ducato while in the check-in line. ..and finally drove on to the loading bay. Departed on-time and sailed past Suomenlinna- a Fortress in Helsinki All went per plan. After a sumptuous dinner and ‘flavored water’ at the awesome buffet spread, we pulled out our Wish-list of go-to POI’s. It was about time I figured out which direction I would head out when I drove out at 10.30 am the following day. Amidst all the on-board entertainment and entertaining the little one, we never managed it. Leg 1/Day 2- Figured out where to go Woke up to hit the massive buffet spread for breakfast Waved at the folk going to Helsinki in a passing-by Cruise ship. ...and soon it was time to get to the car Deck and drive out. Reached Stockholm around 10-30am and soon we drove west. There are many ways to go west but which one did we need to go to? Time for decisions. Stopped at a rest area which had bathrooms and picnic tables and had some ‘Chai pe Charcha’. Took out the map and overlayed our must-see list. Picked out the farthest of them all which turned out to be the Atlantic highway near Kristiansund and then hit navigation. The immediate problem became apparent – we were never going to make it within the day. It was just that far plus the fact that we needed lunch breaks in between and then the Toddler breaks per her demands. Drove on till we got to Grensetjänsten which is the one of the many roads between Norway-Sweden Pulled into parking in the Norwegian information center.. and called it a day. Didn’t need planning for the next day since Atlantic highway was still a days drive away. Leg 1/Day 3- Freshened up, finished a simple breakfast and hit the road North West and kept driving and soon we entered some beautiful stretches and a lot of campers for company along the way. Stopped at a Picnic area next to a river, had simple lunch and drove on which eventually ended later in the evening. Where do we stop and rest for the night? The best part about the campervan is that toilet, Showers and Kitchen are all on-board. The most common consumption for all these is Water which is obviously stored onboard as Fresh and waste water. Fresh water needs replenishment and waste water needs to be dumped out. There are 2 types of waste water – Grey and Black. Grey water is the water from Kitchen and bathroom sink and shower. Toilet waste, called black water, goes into a separate holding tank which needs some chemical to keep the stuff from stinking. Now this is where our first learnings came in and more on that later. Black water can’t be disposed everywhere and needs special places. Most camping grounds have the facility and hence we chose to drive to a camping ground nearest to Atlantic highway to rest for the day. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 10:11. |
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11th August 2022, 10:09 | #5 | |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 1/Day 4- Atlantic Highway...Finally !! Finally we started our Touristy part of our holiday which until then was only reaching there. Quote:
Got to the end of the Atlantic highway and continued driving SSW (south-South West) towards the next destination. By now it goes without saying that we pulled into picnic areas enroute for lunch and drove onwards along lush green meadows, pristine lakes and majestic mountains to Leg2 destination. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 13:54. | |
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11th August 2022, 10:11 | #6 | |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 2- Trollstigen I thoroughly enjoy Mountain Driving. Having had my share of fun driving up and down Stelvio Pass a few times, it was time to explore something similar in Norway- the Trollstigen. Obviously the gargantuan size of the Motorhome meant there wasn't going to be any spirited driving. It was just adequately fast enough. Quote:
..and headed back on road to climb uphill while gazing at this beautiful waterfalls called Stigfossen. In fact the road weaves in and around the Stigfossen and is visible several times as one climbs uphill. The twisties are alluring to Cyclists, Bikers and Sport Cars alike. Truly amazing. This place is really mesmerising. However, by the time we reached up top, the weather changed and it turned very cloudy. While the original plan was to spend a few hours here and drive on, thanks to the flexibility we had due to having a Motorhome, we quickly changed plans and stayed back overnight. !! Woke up to a bright and sunny Trollstigen and hiked around a bit. ..and when it became cloudy again, went to the architecturally beautiful visitor center for some coffee... ..spoke to the local Troll and left towards Leg3. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 13:55. | |
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11th August 2022, 10:13 | #7 |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 3- Geiranger Having spent half a day in Trollstigen, we made a quick lunch of Pasta (as it was most of the days ), we started to head towards the next Leg - Geiranger. Chat up with some British 60 yr old couple who were cycling across Norway. Now I forget their route plan but the very fact that we taking this up at that age was already astonishing. Took a short hike... ..and drove on and stopped by another river for a quick break demanded by the little one. and got back on the road again. and stopped briefly at Gudbrandsjuvet -it is a picturesque and renowned gorge located in Norway, known for its striking natural beauty. Carved by the rushing waters of the Valldøla River, the gorge features towering rock formations and a dramatic waterfall that cascades through the narrow chasm. Gudbrandsjuvet is a popular tourist destination, offering a unique opportunity to experience the raw power of nature in a visually stunning setting. Didn't spend too much time here though. Did a quick chinese click-click-go. ...needed to reach the ferry point. Stopped at Ørnesvingen Viewpoint... ...To get a birds eye view of Geirangerfjord. Last edited by 14000rpm : 16th August 2023 at 19:44. |
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11th August 2022, 10:15 | #8 | |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 3-Geiranger...Cont'd This is one of the most popular spots given the ease of access by Road and Water. Since the fjord is wide enough for ships, there are lots of them that come to Geiranger. Atleast one every day during Tourist season. Quote:
After a long while, we needed a Camp ground for black water mgmt. and we checked into the Geiranger Camping. Took a Fjord Cruise to see the several water falls along the fjord. The audio guides tell a lot more about the way of life in the mountains 100s of years ago. Apparently, Geiranger is under constant threat from landslides from the mountain Åkerneset into the fjord. A collapse would cause a tsunami that could destroy downtown Geiranger. For this reason, sirens have been installed to warn residents if a landslide should occur. Walked around Geiranger town. The town itself is quite small but overloaded with tourists. It becomes less crowded only when the ship leaves. Had a nice dinner in a restaurant, for a change. And stayed at the camp ground for the night. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 13:56. | |
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15th August 2023, 15:25 | #9 | |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 4 - Briksdaalsbreen Woke up lazily, used the showers at the Camp ground. Felt good to get some elbow room and not hit the walls and doors all the time in the small shower in the motorhome. Got in the long line of Campers waiting to fill up clean water and empty their black water tanks. This is always a good time to borrow some gyaan from other roadtrippers- added a few more POIs to my list. After taking care of business, it was time to hit the road to Leg 4 - Briksdaalsbreen. Quote:
and drove around more twisty roads. and reached the altitude where it is still had considerable amount of snow. The lakes were still frozen too. While in the line of campers at the camp, somebody told me about another great Fjord viewing spot called Dalsnibba. This was supposed to be the view on a clear sky day but when we went, it was extremely cloudy with perhaps 20 mtrs visibility. Couldn't see other cars on the road let alone a distant Fjord. Back on the road again and we continued our way downhill towards Briksdalsbreen. Views of the Glacial mountains meant we were getting closer as we drove by serene lakes. ..and finally reached Briksdalsbreen. Most hike uphill but we took one of the Golf carts that was meant to ferry visitors for a price..of course. We took it to go uphill only since I was carry my toddler on a baby carrier. Hiked back downhill though. This was our first time seeing a Glacier but more importantly, the effect global warming has on these glaciers are clearly evident in the receding lines. Spent some time in the Souvenir shop and left towards Leg 5. Enroute, we parked at Boyum camping in Fjaerland for our night stop. note: Pic from the 'net. credit to original photographer. This camp site is right next to Norwegian Glacier Museum -a very informative museum but unfortunately, we had to skip it. Till this spot, we had practically improvised our itinerary keeping Atlantic highway as the northern most in our trip and driving south East and slowly towards Stockholm to take the ferry we had already booked. This improvisation meant we were now running short of time to cover a few more stops we added to our route plan till we exit Norway. note: Pic from the 'net. credit to original photographer. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 13:52. | |
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15th August 2023, 19:05 | #10 | |
Senior - BHPian | Leg 5 - Flåm As has become the habit, we took a long stroll around the camp ground and the surrounding and left lazily South towards Flåm and stopped at a small town called Sogndalsfjøra for an Espresso which I so longed for. Had it with Nescafe sachets. Daughter got to stretch her legs. She made friends with another kid of similar age. She had her networking and we had ours with the parents. You learn a lot from the locals as did we in this brief conversation. Soon it was time to be back on road passing by more rivers along the way. As we reached the town of Laerdal, we had a decision to make - there are 2 roads going south to Flåm. Fastest - via Laerdalstunnel. At 24.5 kms, it is the longest road tunnel in the world connecting Laerdal and Aurland and helping with a ferry-free Oslo-Bergen connection. Prettiest - Aurlandsvegen. The only road connection from Laerdal to Aurland before the tunnel was opened to public. This is also one of the most beautiful roads too. In fact there is a regular Porsche drive led by a Porsche owning hotel owner from Laerdal. Check this from Porsche newsroom: https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2021...way-23964.html Aurlandsvegen is the route we took. Pretty is better than fast. Also, I wasn't even driving a fast car. Quote:
passed by some amazing views Took a short hike to a frozen lake with a waterfall. And drove through snow cleared roads. At times the snow was up to 1 mtr tall. Drove through clouds... Passed by a wedding shoot. Pretty exotic location. Also, these were the only people we ever saw on this long desolate road. And soon started to descend towards Aurland. Traffic did slow us down a bit. And at some point, reached Stegastein - a popular viewpoint to see the Nærøyfjord (Narrow Fjord) which, I'm told, is the narrowest fjord in the world at 250m wide at its widest. Tricky for ships. Finally reached Flåm. Parking spot for the night. pic source: Google map It was one of the best views we had of the mountains. There is no restrictions on parking and it is somehow self-managed to accommodate everybodys privacy. Hence, this spot had only 2 vehicles max exactly like in the pic. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 13:57. | |
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15th August 2023, 19:08 | #11 | |
Senior - BHPian | Re: 50 shades of Green: Exploring Norway -2017 Edition Quote:
As with Geirangerfjord, there are many fjord cruise boats taking one through the Narrow Fjord and past many tiny villages and pretty waterfalls. Eventually we got back to town to take a scenic train ride on Flåmsbana to Myrdal which is 867 mtrs above sea level and offer breathtaking views along the way. Flåmsbana is considered to be one of the most beautiful and Steepest railways in the world connecting Bergen, via Myrdal to Flåm. Frankly, most of the train riders are on the train to see the waterfalls called Kjofossen. Here, as passengers disembark on the viewing platform for a short break, a mysterious woman with long hair and a red dress emerges from the forest, dancing to a Norwegian folk song. She is the Huldra, an elusive forest spirit from Norse mythology. According to local folklore, she lures men into the woods to seduce them. It is quite a mesmerizing sound and dance show. Some choose to come down a hiking trail from Myrdal by walk or bike. We, like most tourists, choose to take the train ride back to town and hit the road to Laerdal via the longest Road Tunnel in the world - Laerdals tunnel. at 24.5 kms, it is really really long which means one has to drive in a dark tube for nearly 20-30 mins. Claustrophobic folk will hate to drive in a confined space for this long. Given that it is so long, A special team of psychologists was engaged in the interior design to help avoid monotony while driving through the tunnel. A lighting system simulating natural light at dawn has been installed in all parts of the tunnel. The main part is illuminated with white light, while the extensions are permeated with blue-yellow lights to give the impression of sunrise. eventually we reached the camping ground where we had booked ourselves a spot for the night. Pic source: Google Maps. Grilled up some chicken for dinner.. ..and strolled around the still waters at the end of the Fjord. As we retired for the day, I recollect a funny conversation whilst on the Fjord Cruise with a travel guide of Indian Origin. He was with a group of 40 odd travellers who seemed to be from some Tier 2 cities in AP. I overheard one of them say that they have no idea where they are headed to next. Turns out, they had all paid for a 1 week Scandinavia tour of which Finland was one of them. All of Scandinavia in 1 week !! Really ambitious. I'd been living in Helsinki (still do) but I never saw it with tourist eyes. Out of sheer curiosity, I spoke to this guide- Me: where all do you plan to take the group to in Helsinki? Guide (with some amount of Audacity): Senate Square, Sibelius monument and other places. Me: ok. Nice to know. Have you been there before? Guide: Yes. I'm an experienced tour guide. Me: Glad to know. I live in Helsinki but I have no idea what is touristy in the city. Hence I asked. Thanks. Guide (tone changed to humility within seconds): saar. Really? Can you please tell me where all I can take them? Me: huh!!??. Aren't you an experienced travel guide? Guide: Saar, I have been to Germany. Me: My friend. Germany is not Scandinavia. As I walked away from him, I saw a whole bunch of tourist brochures he was carrying at quickly concluded that he was nothing but a Brochure flinger masquerading as a Tour guide. While I did have a good laugh about this episode, I pity the 100's who are paying lakh's to such scamsters everyday. Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 16:26. | |
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15th August 2023, 20:03 | #12 | ||
Senior - BHPian | Re: 50 shades of Green: Exploring Norway -2017 Edition Leg 6 - Tvinnefossen and Steindaalsfossen Last tourist leg for us was a visit to some Picturesque waterfalls that have immense popularity. Starting with Tvinnefossen which, with its Cascading falls, is a beautiful spot for photographers. Quote:
..and moved on to the next equally beautiful Steindaalsfossen. Yet another photographers delight. Quote:
This was the last of our tourist leg and from here, it was the long drive to Stockholm to board our Ferry back to Helsinki Last edited by 14000rpm : 17th August 2023 at 16:50. | ||
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16th August 2023, 11:38 | #13 |
Senior - BHPian | Re: 50 shades of Green: Exploring Norway -2017 Edition For those of you curious about the Motorhome- It is based on a FIAT Ducato Chassis on which Carado, the motorhome/Campervan designer, builds this and several designs in Germany. Key stats: Typically I would have gone ahead and elaborated how it is to drive but this is a Motorhome. It is really the function that is important. For maximum use, it is a Breadbox with laughable Aerodynamics. the 140 bhp is certainly laughable but good low end torque makes it reasonably drivable uphill and a decent highway cruiser. As for function - What I rented was a 6 pax van with -
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17th August 2023, 17:52 | #14 |
Team-BHP Support | re: 50 shades of green : Exploring Norway Thread moved out from the Assembly Line. Thanks for sharing! |
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19th August 2023, 13:07 | #15 | |
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