ford ikon - tyre change

normally_crazy · 9th March 2004, 00:06

hi fellas

my ikon runs on 185/70 r14 alloys,which the dealer upgraded at time of delivery from 175/70 r14. i dont think its the ideal tyre size.

i am thinking of changing to 15 inch rims and tyres..can i put in the 15 inchers and low pro tyres ? if yes what shud be the size ?

thanks

v12 · 9th March 2004, 00:09

how abt 195/65 R15

normally_crazy · 9th March 2004, 13:18

but wont the 195/65 interfere while turning ? scraping the insides of the tyre well ? maybe 185/60 r15 ?

v12 · 9th March 2004, 13:41

ya that'll also do. i thought u wanted wider tyres. i dont think the 195 will scrape thw insides.

Shan2nu · 9th March 2004, 22:07

You're going the right way NC. 185/60 R15 will be perfect for your car.

I calculated the difference between your stock tyres and these to be around 0.4%, where as the 195/65 R 15s showed a difference of 5.6%.

You can use this site for reference

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

In the first set of blocks you need to type in the specs of your stock tyres and in the 2nd blocks, the specs of the tyres you're upgrading it to.

The tyres you're using now have an error of 2.3% which means that when your speedo shows 100kmph you're actually doing 102.3kmph.

It is important that you upsize to tyres that won't increase speedo error, this may lead to wrong calculations while checking your car's fuel efficiency.

Regards...
Shan2nu

normally_crazy · 9th March 2004, 22:11

hey shant2nu

thanks dude for the link and v12 thanks for sorting my confusion

Shan2nu · 9th March 2004, 22:16

When i say stock i mean 175/70 R14. I know you know that, but i just wanted to make it clear.

Regards...
Shan2nu

Rehaan · 10th March 2004, 00:39

Hey NC,

If i were you i would not go up from 14" on the ikon. Ofcourse it also depends on how and where you use your car.
I would however invest in some good high quality performance 185/70 rubber!

Are you in bombay? if so DIPPY > why dont you give this guy sumits details....howcum he hasnt joined the forum yet?

Sumit works/owns international tyres at opera house. They are very knowledgable and honest unlike a LOT of all the other tyre guys who know nothing and try to sell everything. The only letdown is that if you plan to upgrade to 15" and want to buy imported alloys, they dont sell them (only indian alloys)

cheers.
Rehaan

Shan2nu · 10th March 2004, 00:58

But Rehaan,
His Ikon is already fitted with 185/70 R14. Using this on 15" wheels will result in increased diameter and circumference of the tyre, which not only poses speedo error problems but maynot be suitable for the Ikon's wheel arch.

NC, if you can sacrifice ride comfort, then the 185/60 R15s will be perfect, but for a better ride, i suggest you stick to the ones you're using now.

Regards...
Shan2nu

Rehaan · 10th March 2004, 01:03

Yeah Shan2nu,

I was assuming that he needed to change his tyres anyway.

Also going up to 15" may foul with the wheelarches and also when you go up to 15" the width of the actual alloy wheel also increases so that may act as a catalyst for the problem.
Speedo error is the least of the problems.....as it is the ikon has the most innaccurate speedo readings of all the cars available in india!

I would just speak to some1 who is trustable and knows about this and has lots of experience doing it (like sumit) and see what they have to say.

cya

Shan2nu · 10th March 2004, 01:55

You got the speedo error right!!!! i've got a friend who has seen his stock ikon hit 210kmph!!!!!!

Can you believe that?

As per auto mags the top speed of the Ikon 1.6 is around 165-170 kmph.

Regards...
Shan2nu

Sam · 28th March 2004, 16:44

I ca surely vouch for the ikons speed i myself have taken my Ikon to 195 and it was still increasing whn the road ended. Taking 15" tyres are a great handling upgrade, keeping the profile down will ensure that th ewheel arches are catered for. But u will feel every bump on th ealready bumpy road. Your tyre wear and punture rate will be worse coz of the wholyness of the road, coz low profiles tend to do that.

GTO · 28th March 2004, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I ca surely vouch for the ikons speed i myself have taken my Ikon to 195

Speedo error pal...speedo error

GTO

Shan2nu · 28th March 2004, 19:56

Hey Sam when you say vouch. Do you mean the top speed or speedo error. Coz there's no way an Ikon can cross even 180kmph (true speed) unless you've tuned it.

Regards...
Shan2nu

roadlover · 5th October 2011, 13:45

I have a ford ikon Rally sport 1,6, I could touch a maximum of 180 kms/hr tops..I doubt a stock ikon can go any faster unless there is serious speedo error!! Cheers!!

Moderator's Note: Thread closed. Please post your queries in this thread - Ford Ikon : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

9th March 2004, 00:06	#1
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	hi fellas my ikon runs on 185/70 r14 alloys,which the dealer upgraded at time of delivery from 175/70 r14. i dont think its the ideal tyre size. i am thinking of changing to 15 inch rims and tyres..can i put in the 15 inchers and low pro tyres ? if yes what shud be the size ? thanks
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9th March 2004, 00:09	#2
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,213 Times View My Garage	how abt 195/65 R15
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9th March 2004, 13:18	#3
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	but wont the 195/65 interfere while turning ? scraping the insides of the tyre well ? maybe 185/60 r15 ?
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9th March 2004, 13:41	#4
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,213 Times View My Garage	ya that'll also do. i thought u wanted wider tyres. i dont think the 195 will scrape thw insides.
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9th March 2004, 22:07	#5
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	You're going the right way NC. 185/60 R15 will be perfect for your car. I calculated the difference between your stock tyres and these to be around 0.4%, where as the 195/65 R 15s showed a difference of 5.6%. You can use this site for reference http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html In the first set of blocks you need to type in the specs of your stock tyres and in the 2nd blocks, the specs of the tyres you're upgrading it to. The tyres you're using now have an error of 2.3% which means that when your speedo shows 100kmph you're actually doing 102.3kmph. It is important that you upsize to tyres that won't increase speedo error, this may lead to wrong calculations while checking your car's fuel efficiency. Regards... Shan2nu
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9th March 2004, 22:11	#6
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	hey shant2nu thanks dude for the link and v12 thanks for sorting my confusion
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9th March 2004, 22:16	#7
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	When i say stock i mean 175/70 R14. I know you know that, but i just wanted to make it clear. Regards... Shan2nu
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10th March 2004, 00:39	#8
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,079 Times	Hey NC, If i were you i would not go up from 14" on the ikon. Ofcourse it also depends on how and where you use your car. I would however invest in some good high quality performance 185/70 rubber! Are you in bombay? if so DIPPY > why dont you give this guy sumits details....howcum he hasnt joined the forum yet? Sumit works/owns international tyres at opera house. They are very knowledgable and honest unlike a LOT of all the other tyre guys who know nothing and try to sell everything. The only letdown is that if you plan to upgrade to 15" and want to buy imported alloys, they dont sell them (only indian alloys) cheers. Rehaan
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10th March 2004, 00:58	#9
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	But Rehaan, His Ikon is already fitted with 185/70 R14. Using this on 15" wheels will result in increased diameter and circumference of the tyre, which not only poses speedo error problems but maynot be suitable for the Ikon's wheel arch. NC, if you can sacrifice ride comfort, then the 185/60 R15s will be perfect, but for a better ride, i suggest you stick to the ones you're using now. Regards... Shan2nu
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10th March 2004, 01:03	#10
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,079 Times	Yeah Shan2nu, I was assuming that he needed to change his tyres anyway. Also going up to 15" may foul with the wheelarches and also when you go up to 15" the width of the actual alloy wheel also increases so that may act as a catalyst for the problem. Speedo error is the least of the problems.....as it is the ikon has the most innaccurate speedo readings of all the cars available in india! I would just speak to some1 who is trustable and knows about this and has lots of experience doing it (like sumit) and see what they have to say. cya
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10th March 2004, 01:55	#11
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	You got the speedo error right!!!! i've got a friend who has seen his stock ikon hit 210kmph!!!!!! Can you believe that? As per auto mags the top speed of the Ikon 1.6 is around 165-170 kmph. Regards... Shan2nu
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28th March 2004, 16:44	#12
Sam BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 114 Thanked: 3 Times	I ca surely vouch for the ikons speed i myself have taken my Ikon to 195 and it was still increasing whn the road ended. Taking 15" tyres are a great handling upgrade, keeping the profile down will ensure that th ewheel arches are catered for. But u will feel every bump on th ealready bumpy road. Your tyre wear and punture rate will be worse coz of the wholyness of the road, coz low profiles tend to do that.
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28th March 2004, 19:56	#14
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Hey Sam when you say vouch. Do you mean the top speed or speedo error. Coz there's no way an Ikon can cross even 180kmph (true speed) unless you've tuned it. Regards... Shan2nu
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5th October 2011, 13:45	#15
roadlover Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	Re: ford ikon - tyre change I have a ford ikon Rally sport 1,6, I could touch a maximum of 180 kms/hr tops..I doubt a stock ikon can go any faster unless there is serious speedo error!! Cheers!! Moderator's Note: Thread closed. Please post your queries in this thread - Ford Ikon : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread Last edited by Gannu_1 : 15th June 2015 at 08:54.
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