Custom Rim Manufacturer - Where can i get wheels CNCd in India ?

Rehaan · 14th January 2007, 22:36

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Originally Posted by spawnofsatan

I was looking for either a 2 or 3 piece wheel. When you say CNC will be expensive how much would it be around?

No idea ! Sorry...

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I found about this stuff in LA and its pretty expensive there due to the high labour charge.

I know what you mean.

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I wa slooking at something that is lightweight. I dont need it to be chrome or anythinf just silkved polished is fine for me.

Do you need them to be "custom" though....why not just go for forged wheels that are available, super strong and light?

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Rudra Sen, yopu said you knew someone in bangalore that does this, if you could find out for me i would greatly appreciate it....

I would like to know too...just for informations sake.

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I am looking for 20x11 in the back and 19x9.5 in the front with big brake clearance. Thanks again guys.

Holy

What on earth is this for? Do give us some details....?

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Vid6639 · 14th January 2007, 22:40

the pic of the wheel on the lathe is it? Seems lot of sweat and blood went into making that. hehehe.

Does anybody remember the tv show overhaulin or OCC. All these guys used Custom made alloys.

I remember them working on CAD to design the wheels then CNC them according to that. That was amazing.

spawnofsatan · 17th January 2007, 21:56

Rehaan, that wheel you made does look like a lot of work...

I know what you mean when you said that the wheels should be manufactued by someone who klnows about wheels. It is indeed a life and death situation.

You asked what these wheels were for?
I am working on modifying a 1998 jaguar xk8 coupe. I am making custom carbon fibre parts and a widebody. I also plan to add about 250 bhp to the existing 290 bhp. I plan to enter it in the november sema auto show in Vegas. I am in india right now visiting family and was hoping to set this up. Eventually i am going to open my own custom shop in LA tuning exotics. I wanted to get these rims now and eventuallt set up a supply chain from here. I obviously will keep you guys posted with pictures and stuff on the progress of the car. yeah occ and these people do make their custom wheels on cnc machines. I nbeed to find someone who deos that here...I will obviously appreciate you guys' help.

Rehaan · 22nd January 2007, 08:56

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Originally Posted by spawnofsatan

Eventually i am going to open my own custom shop in LA tuning exotics.

Living the dream eh ?

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Originally Posted by spawnofsatan

I wanted to get these rims now and eventuallt set up a supply chain from here.

Definitely a lot of potential there.... but im afraid i have no leads for you.

The only thing i could think of is to approach (goodluck) the two indian alloy wheel manufacturing companies -

Aura (Hindalco) - with plants located at Silvassa, Dadra and Nagar Haveli

Neo - which seems to be based in mumbai, not sure where there plant is.

Obviously, try and get to talk to someone high up in the companies if you decide to contact either of them.

Let us know what happens, (maybe post/PM some pics of wheel designs if possible), and keep us informed about your projects (with pics!)

Goodluck for the sema auto show.
cya
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ps - another option might be to get your wheel machined at any CNC shop from a regular billet they can get you, and then take it to aura/neo for their heat treatment/curing and strength testing/xray facilities. This might integrate a lot easier into their production line......as i said earlier..goodluck!

CrAzY dRiVeR · 22nd January 2007, 23:46

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Originally Posted by rks

There should be another set of spokes on the other side of the wheel, and the holes more towards the centre, to get a reasonable offset? With this design, I would imagine that the spokes should be towards the centre rather than on one side of the wheel. Just a wild guess.

Its a miniature replica... (and very well done)

Offset for replica??? I didnt quite understand, what spokes on the other side meant???

spawnofsatan · 31st January 2007, 14:59

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

Ok here is the deal....rehaan, before you suggested calling neo i was already looking into it and I talked to some guy, he said he can cast some for me if i was ready to invest 3-4 lakhs....thats not gonna happen...lol. My dad has a foundry and i have already looked into casting them there...but then thats not a great idea, plus the facory is busy and my dad wont let me. Third thing I called a few high end CNC shops here in bombay and one person said it is possible, he has asked me to send him a drawing and then he will tell me. He said he has made and balanced flywheels for a company in UK. This looks positive to me. Now when i get back to LA i'm gonna make a CADD design and send it to him and we'll see how that works out. I will also be posting pictures of my Nissan 300zx (non-turbo...sucks I know). Once I get a quote and have something tangible with the custom rims I will give out more details for everyone to see.

I would like to especially thank rehaan for all the input you have given me, i greatly appreciate it, if you are ever in LA hit me up.

rks · 31st January 2007, 16:04

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Its a miniature replica... (and very well done)

Offset for replica??? I didnt quite understand, what spokes on the other side meant???

I was commenting on the fact that the spokes were flush with one edge (side) of the wheel. I have seen alloys that have spokes extending to both sides, or a single set of spokes mounted a little more to the interior of the wheel (not necessarily at the centre of the rim, though). Obviously neither of these is a requirement.

Normally the mounting holes should be a little bit closer to the centre of wheel; if they are at the exact centre then I imagine that the offset is zero. In this case the holes are almost flush with one edge of the wheel and that is what I mean by a large offset (i.e., the distance from the central plane of the rim to the inner edge of the mounting holes). I was guessing that the spokes should normally curve a little more towards the centre of the rim at the point where the holes are present, but that would be more difficult to machine and probably not worth the effort for a replica.

Rehaan · 4th February 2007, 02:20

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Originally Posted by spawnofsatan

Third thing I called a few high end CNC shops here in bombay and one person said it is possible, he has asked me to send him a drawing and then he will tell me. He said he has made and balanced flywheels for a company in UK. This looks positive to me.

Indeed!
The fact that he has made flywheels sounds good! (assuming he also balanced them? or just milled them perfect?? ..i dont know?) Atleast its something car related! Some peace of mind...lol
However, you will still have to deal with the strength testing et al because you never know the structural integrity of the metal stock....or is there a trustable source and method in which it is produced that can be used blindly for high stress applications? What alloy are you going to use?

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Now when i get back to LA i'm gonna make a CADD design and send it to him and we'll see how that works out. I will also be posting pictures of my Nissan 300zx (non-turbo...sucks I know). Once I get a quote and have something tangible with the custom rims I will give out more details for everyone to see.

Are you considering doing a 2/3 part design and using existing wheel "drums" to bolt your CNCd part onto? Might save a significant amount of money....
Looking forward to pics of the 300zx.

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I would like to especially thank rehaan for all the input you have given me, i greatly appreciate it, if you are ever in LA hit me up.

My pleasure to get to discuss something like this that is going to actually become a reality! I might have a date with an E55 in the bay area sometime soon

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Originally Posted by rks

Normally the mounting holes should be a little bit closer to the centre of wheel; if they are at the exact centre then I imagine that the offset is zero. In this case the holes are almost flush with one edge of the wheel and that is what I mean by a large offset (i.e., the distance from the central plane of the rim to the inner edge of the mounting holes). I was guessing that the spokes should normally curve a little more towards the centre of the rim at the point where the holes are present, but that would be more difficult to machine and probably not worth the effort for a replica.

That is correct, althought i must admit that your first post about "another set of spokes" was a bit

The spokes and mounting holes are not flush with the face of the wheel in the mini wheel, they curve in slightly, but this was the maximum i could curve them in due to it being the minimum radius on the radius cutter on the lathe, and also some other complications with the flute length on the endmill...will explain later.

cya
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varun_patra · 4th February 2007, 02:25

Dc makes custom rims for some of his cars.. you should contact him . I guess the rims in Bonitos RS were made by him and a few other cars too ...

The 20 inch rims on bonitos RS would look awesome on a black superb ..

f50xj13 · 5th May 2007, 22:31

it is not that easy to manufacture an alloy wheel even with a cnc... best way of doing that i guess is to purchase an equivalent size alloy and then base your design on that...using those parameters coupled with your self design. also following points need to be kept in mind.
1. the source of the raw material...or if someone is willing to forge the material ...you should know the exact composition with permissible tolerances for that material. he should provide a test certificate for material composition.
2. the actual machining can be done with high accuracy upto 0.01 mm or even further depending upon the amount of money one is prepared to spend.
3. finally the machined material should be subject to tests to verify the structural integrity because this is very important.. recommended to carry this test first before machining and then again after machining.
4. the aesthetic part is not that important because it is quite easily achieved..many options exist for this aspect including chrome plating, anodizing etc.
it is not that easy to manufacture an alloy wheel but not impossible either...however for that amount of money me thinks one can easily get an imported set of limited edition wheels.
anyone still interested in making the wheels after reading through this can send me a message...i can have the complete capacity for the machining and sources for the finishing ...

R32_GTR · 27th October 2007, 14:38

hello boys...

I need to if wheels like this or similar are available anywhere in India.

Or if there are Custom wheel makers.

any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks heaps..

Rehaan · 28th October 2007, 02:45

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Originally Posted by R32_GTR

Or if there are Custom wheel makers.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ncd-india.html

cya
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EDIT : merged the two threads

R32_GTR · 28th October 2007, 03:27

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Originally Posted by Rehaan

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-a...ncd-india.html

cya
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hey rehaan..

thanks for the link...so i presume the answer to me question is NO...

thanks anyways..

Rehaan · 28th October 2007, 04:28

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Originally Posted by R32_GTR

...so i presume the answer to me question is NO...

Last i heard (probably via PM since it isnt in the thread) there was some progress, or atleast it looked likely.
I will email spawnofsatan and see if he has any info to add.

cya
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14th January 2007, 22:40	#17
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,696 Thanked: 44,205 Times View My Garage	the pic of the wheel on the lathe is it? Seems lot of sweat and blood went into making that. hehehe. Does anybody remember the tv show overhaulin or OCC. All these guys used Custom made alloys. I remember them working on CAD to design the wheels then CNC them according to that. That was amazing. Last edited by Vid6639 : 14th January 2007 at 22:42.
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17th January 2007, 21:56	#18
spawnofsatan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los angeles/Mumbai Posts: 708 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Rehaan, that wheel you made does look like a lot of work... I know what you mean when you said that the wheels should be manufactued by someone who klnows about wheels. It is indeed a life and death situation. You asked what these wheels were for? I am working on modifying a 1998 jaguar xk8 coupe. I am making custom carbon fibre parts and a widebody. I also plan to add about 250 bhp to the existing 290 bhp. I plan to enter it in the november sema auto show in Vegas. I am in india right now visiting family and was hoping to set this up. Eventually i am going to open my own custom shop in LA tuning exotics. I wanted to get these rims now and eventuallt set up a supply chain from here. I obviously will keep you guys posted with pictures and stuff on the progress of the car. yeah occ and these people do make their custom wheels on cnc machines. I nbeed to find someone who deos that here...I will obviously appreciate you guys' help.
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31st January 2007, 14:59	#21
spawnofsatan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los angeles/Mumbai Posts: 708 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE Ok here is the deal....rehaan, before you suggested calling neo i was already looking into it and I talked to some guy, he said he can cast some for me if i was ready to invest 3-4 lakhs....thats not gonna happen...lol. My dad has a foundry and i have already looked into casting them there...but then thats not a great idea, plus the facory is busy and my dad wont let me. Third thing I called a few high end CNC shops here in bombay and one person said it is possible, he has asked me to send him a drawing and then he will tell me. He said he has made and balanced flywheels for a company in UK. This looks positive to me. Now when i get back to LA i'm gonna make a CADD design and send it to him and we'll see how that works out. I will also be posting pictures of my Nissan 300zx (non-turbo...sucks I know). Once I get a quote and have something tangible with the custom rims I will give out more details for everyone to see. I would like to especially thank rehaan for all the input you have given me, i greatly appreciate it, if you are ever in LA hit me up.
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4th February 2007, 02:25	#24
varun_patra BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: mumbai Posts: 469 Thanked: 5 Times	Dc makes custom rims for some of his cars.. you should contact him . I guess the rims in Bonitos RS were made by him and a few other cars too ... The 20 inch rims on bonitos RS would look awesome on a black superb ..
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5th May 2007, 22:31	#25
f50xj13 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: delhi Posts: 113 Thanked: Once	it is not that easy to manufacture an alloy wheel even with a cnc... best way of doing that i guess is to purchase an equivalent size alloy and then base your design on that...using those parameters coupled with your self design. also following points need to be kept in mind. 1. the source of the raw material...or if someone is willing to forge the material ...you should know the exact composition with permissible tolerances for that material. he should provide a test certificate for material composition. 2. the actual machining can be done with high accuracy upto 0.01 mm or even further depending upon the amount of money one is prepared to spend. 3. finally the machined material should be subject to tests to verify the structural integrity because this is very important.. recommended to carry this test first before machining and then again after machining. 4. the aesthetic part is not that important because it is quite easily achieved..many options exist for this aspect including chrome plating, anodizing etc. it is not that easy to manufacture an alloy wheel but not impossible either...however for that amount of money me thinks one can easily get an imported set of limited edition wheels. anyone still interested in making the wheels after reading through this can send me a message...i can have the complete capacity for the machining and sources for the finishing ...
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27th October 2007, 14:38	#26
R32_GTR BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 549 Thanked: 201 Times View My Garage	Custom Wheels hello boys... I need to if wheels like this or similar are available anywhere in India. Or if there are Custom wheel makers. any help would be much appreciated. Thanks heaps..
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