NHC Tyre Upgrade Advice

sunilvarma · 4th July 2007, 23:50

Hi

I have a New Honda City GXi model with stock 176/65/14" tyres and aftermarket alloys.

Now I want to go for 15" wheels (is it a good decision?) I have selected a lenso model. My question is what will be the best fit for this wheel.

I am considering 195/50/15" goodyear f1 gs-d3 tyres. is it a good choice. Does upsizing to 15" have any negative effects?

Will the ride comfort/braking be effected and will there be any drop in mileage?

Thanks
Sunil Varma

iraghava · 5th July 2007, 03:08

Here are a few existing toopics to solve your queries:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...zer-250-a.html (Silverstone Kruzer 250)

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...tment-nhc.html (Tyre upgrade/alloys fitment - NHC)

sunilvarma · 6th July 2007, 01:57

i need a more specific answer for my case. plz reply...

CrAzY dRiVeR · 6th July 2007, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunilvarma

Hi
I have a New Honda City GXi model with stock 176/65/14" tyres and aftermarket alloys.
Now I want to go for 15" wheels (is it a good decision?) I have selected a lenso model. My question is what will be the best fit for this wheel.
I am considering 195/50/15" goodyear f1 gs-d3 tyres. is it a good choice. Does upsizing to 15" have any negative effects?
Will the ride comfort/braking be effected and will there be any drop in mileage?
Thanks
Sunil Varma

Stock tyres are 175/65-14.
195/50-15 can be fitted on the NHC.

15" upsize wont cause much problems on the NHC as its only the first upsize. Although ride comfort may become a bit hard.

Mileage may drop slightly with the use of 195/50- 14 tyres due to larger contact patch on the road and more rolling resistance. Dont think that they'll cause a big worry cause of the wonderful FE given by the NHC.

iraghava · 6th July 2007, 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunilvarma

Now I want to go for 15" wheels (is it a good decision?) I have selected a lenso model. My question is what will be the best fit for this wheel.

I am considering 195/50/15" goodyear f1 gs-d3 tyres. is it a good choice. Does upsizing to 15" have any negative effects?

Will the ride comfort/braking be effected and will there be any drop in mileage?

Well the upsize is correct but the drawbacks of the same are:

Harsher ride than the stock size
Increased chances of tyre problems due to low sidewall height & poor conditions of our roads

But that said there are many people running that size on Honda's without any problems as such but do be prepared to make a sacrifice on the comfort front. Braking should not be effected but rather should improve marginally with the wider contact patch & better rubber.

Also do look at other tyres other than the F1 GS-D3, there are many, better options available.

sunilvarma · 6th July 2007, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Mileage may drop slightly with the use of 195/50- 14 tyres due to larger contact patch on the road and more rolling resistance. Dont think that they'll cause a big worry cause of the wonderful FE given by the NHC.

is the NHC really that fuel efficient? mine gives just 10kmpl and i am worried. :(

CrAzY dRiVeR · 6th July 2007, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunilvarma

is the NHC really that fuel efficient? mine gives just 10kmpl and i am worried. :(

NHC is hailed as the mileage king in the segment (petrol), isn't it?

May be the NHC owners in the forum can share their FE figures.

Vishesh · 6th September 2007, 16:54

Guyz, i'm planning to upgrade the OE wheel set on my NHC. Even after reading through a hell lot of posts through TBHP and others on the internet, i am in a gr8 dilemma. The tyre size calc. on Car Bibles: The Wheel and Tire Bible show the following figures for the sizes i zeroed on--

Stock - 175/65 R14
Possible upgrades - 1. 195/55 R15 (2.13% speedo and odo error)
2. 195/60 R15 (5.47% speedo and odo error)
3. 205/55 R15 (4.01% speedo and odo error)

Now i want a bigger set of wheels, but if i go in for choices no. 2 & 3, the odo would overread by 2000-2500 kms after 50,000 kms. (Which i think is a lot !) But if i go in for choice no. 1 then i dont get much improvement in overall size of the wheel. Also, i have to keep in mind that the wheel wells are able to accomodate them. So, kindly give your opinions on the same.

Next, the tires. This time i really wanna try out yokohama's, but am confused b\w the models -- AVS ES100, AVS Sport, S drive. I want grippy tires, but not the extreme ones (very low FE, and plus they would be expensive too). Or as someone pointed out, are Potenza GIII's better ??? I am utterly confused !!!

Mod's Note: Please search and use an existing thread rather than opening new threads on the same topic. Threads merged.

Vishesh · 6th September 2007, 17:16

And ohh i forgot to ask, are the soft compound yokohama's very prone to punctures, cuts etc ? If thats the case i might need to consider only bridgestones. And how about michelins ?

reignofchaos · 6th September 2007, 17:17

If you want the best, get the Michelin Pilot Preceda 2. Its better than both those yokos.

Akshay1234 · 6th September 2007, 17:18

i think the best out of them is 195/55 r15. i suggest you go for 195/50 r15. it will have the least error. also get yokohama s drives. if they are too pricey then you can get es100s.

contactme27 · 3rd October 2007, 19:42

Please help.... Even my car turned around 41K and time to changes my tyres... I have read the responses on various topics on tyre upsize... Would be please advice me, if it is ok to stick to michelin 195/60R14 to my NHC. Will the FE drop ?

iraghava · 3rd October 2007, 20:31

Yes, there will be a marginal drop in FE of your car. I think you can expect around a 1kmpl drop.

itzzme · 3rd October 2007, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vishesh

Stock - 175/65 R14
Possible upgrades - 1. 195/55 R15 (2.13% speedo and odo error)
2. 195/60 R15 (5.47% speedo and odo error)
3. 205/55 R15 (4.01% speedo and odo error)

Next, the tires. This time i really wanna try out yokohama's, but am confused b\w the models -- AVS ES100, AVS Sport, S drive. I want grippy tires, but not the extreme ones (very low FE, and plus they would be expensive too). Or as someone pointed out, are Potenza GIII's better ??? I am utterly confused !!!

Mod's Note: Please search and use an existing thread rather than opening new threads on the same topic. Threads merged.

195/50 R15 is very good option for you.
options for you in this size are
PP 4900/=
PP2 5300/=
S.Drive 4600/=

In 195/55 R15 only S.drives will be available for around 4500/=

kpzen · 3rd October 2007, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by contactme27

Please help.... Even my car turned around 41K and time to changes my tyres... I have read the responses on various topics on tyre upsize... Would be please advice me, if it is ok to stick to michelin 195/60R14 to my NHC. Will the FE drop ?

195/60-14 would give u decent ride quality and better grip than stock ones.
Yes, there could be marginal drop in FE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reignofchaos

If you want the best, get the Michelin Pilot Preceda 2. Its better than both those yokos.

PP2 are great tyres and i feel the AVS sport and S drives are in the same league.
Have u driven all three tyres in the same manner in the same car to prove that?

4th July 2007, 23:50	#1
sunilvarma Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Times	NHC Tyre Upgrade Advice Hi I have a New Honda City GXi model with stock 176/65/14" tyres and aftermarket alloys. Now I want to go for 15" wheels (is it a good decision?) I have selected a lenso model. My question is what will be the best fit for this wheel. I am considering 195/50/15" goodyear f1 gs-d3 tyres. is it a good choice. Does upsizing to 15" have any negative effects? Will the ride comfort/braking be effected and will there be any drop in mileage? Thanks Sunil Varma
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5th July 2007, 03:08	#2
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Here are a few existing toopics to solve your queries: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...zer-250-a.html (Silverstone Kruzer 250) https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/tyre-...tment-nhc.html (Tyre upgrade/alloys fitment - NHC)
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6th July 2007, 01:57	#3
sunilvarma Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 22 Thanked: 0 Times	i need a more specific answer for my case. plz reply...
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6th September 2007, 16:54	#8
Vishesh BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 96 Thanked: 27 Times	New Wheel Set for NHC Guyz, i'm planning to upgrade the OE wheel set on my NHC. Even after reading through a hell lot of posts through TBHP and others on the internet, i am in a gr8 dilemma. The tyre size calc. on Car Bibles: The Wheel and Tire Bible show the following figures for the sizes i zeroed on-- Stock - 175/65 R14 Possible upgrades - 1. 195/55 R15 (2.13% speedo and odo error) 2. 195/60 R15 (5.47% speedo and odo error) 3. 205/55 R15 (4.01% speedo and odo error) Now i want a bigger set of wheels, but if i go in for choices no. 2 & 3, the odo would overread by 2000-2500 kms after 50,000 kms. (Which i think is a lot !) But if i go in for choice no. 1 then i dont get much improvement in overall size of the wheel. Also, i have to keep in mind that the wheel wells are able to accomodate them. So, kindly give your opinions on the same. Next, the tires. This time i really wanna try out yokohama's, but am confused b\w the models -- AVS ES100, AVS Sport, S drive. I want grippy tires, but not the extreme ones (very low FE, and plus they would be expensive too). Or as someone pointed out, are Potenza GIII's better ??? I am utterly confused !!! Mod's Note: Please search and use an existing thread rather than opening new threads on the same topic. Threads merged.
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6th September 2007, 17:16	#9
Vishesh BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 96 Thanked: 27 Times	And ohh i forgot to ask, are the soft compound yokohama's very prone to punctures, cuts etc ? If thats the case i might need to consider only bridgestones. And how about michelins ?
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6th September 2007, 17:17	#10
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	If you want the best, get the Michelin Pilot Preceda 2. Its better than both those yokos.
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6th September 2007, 17:18	#11
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,265 Thanked: 12,317 Times	i think the best out of them is 195/55 r15. i suggest you go for 195/50 r15. it will have the least error. also get yokohama s drives. if they are too pricey then you can get es100s.
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3rd October 2007, 19:42	#12
contactme27 BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 225 Thanked: 21 Times	Please help.... Even my car turned around 41K and time to changes my tyres... I have read the responses on various topics on tyre upsize... Would be please advice me, if it is ok to stick to michelin 195/60R14 to my NHC. Will the FE drop ?
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3rd October 2007, 20:31	#13
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Yes, there will be a marginal drop in FE of your car. I think you can expect around a 1kmpl drop.
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