Wheel upgrade for Verna - R14 or R15?

styx71 · 6th September 2007, 10:17

Hi,

Could someone please answer the below questions specific to 2 tyre sizes.
The stock tyre would be 175/70 R14(Verna - which i plan to buy by the end of this month). I have decided on the width as 185mm.

Driving - Mainly in Bangalore(infamous for its pot holes & speed breakers).
I usually do not drive too fast(atleast not in the city).

185/65 R14 versus 185/60 R15

1. I used the calculators in the below links to see the difference.
Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing
Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 2 of 2

I found that the overall diameters of these 2 sizes are close to that
of the stock wheel(stock wheel - 600.45mm, 14" new wheel - 595.88mm & 15" new wheel - 602.99mm).

Is it safe to assume that I would not be risking hitting the upper side of the wheel wells in case of 15" wheel, on bad roads with the car fully laden(including the load inside the boot).

2. Which aspect ratio is more suitable for Bangalore 65 or 60 - Is the
difference too much

3. Which one is better considering the following aspects. Is the difference
too much or barely noticeable
a) Ride quality/Comfort
b) Mileage
c) Handling

4. Will there be any adverse effects on the suspension

5. For tyres, which would be best compromise considering lesser noise,
good grip & good tyre life. Looks dont matter to me - in this case
only

Thanks in advance for all your help!

GTO · 6th September 2007, 14:01

Since you arent into fast enthusiastic driving, I would recommend you staying with the 14 inchers only. The Verna is not exactly a handler so its best for you to retain the comfort levels with a 14" rim size.

Choose between a 185 or a 195 width tyre for the Verna. Rehaans Article on Tyre Upsizing has valuable information as well as a downloadable excel sheet with recommended upsizes.

Hope that helps.

styx71 · 6th September 2007, 20:02

Thanks GTO,

I'll keep the handling & comfort aspect in mind.

HotChillyPepper · 6th October 2007, 20:31

What about 195/55R15 ? This one is an exact match and there is no speedo error. But will it hit the sidewalls? Anyone tried this one on a verna before?

itzzme · 6th October 2007, 23:56

one of pals is running on 205/55R15, no problems so far.195/55R15 is good inch-up.

BUSA · 7th October 2007, 00:02

Isint 205/55/50 a wrong size i thought 205/50/15 would be better.

itzzme · 8th October 2007, 00:48

205/55 R15 OD is only 1% more than stock tyres.
Fairly good inch-up size.

hellstar · 11th October 2008, 23:06

I am running 195/65/R14 Yoko A drives and they perfom like a dream in comparison to teh MRF ZVTS that my car was running on for 45K KMS. I would suggest this tyre even though they are not competing with the michelins and the BS G-III in the cornering and handling section.

abhinav.gupta88 · 11th October 2008, 23:44

I'd say keep it to 14 inchers itself since you want more comfort.

Contact iraghava , he will help you better.
Cheers

Sujoy Mukherjee · 21st February 2017, 09:35

Car tyres Upgrade
I upgraded the car tyres from Turanza T001 195/65 R15 which came as stock tyres with the car. The main reason was side wall cut to 2 tyres. They had done around 23500 KM so were practically new.

Upgraded all 4 tyres to 205/65 R15 Yokohama Earth 1, while keeping the spare tyre as a Turanza (Practically unused)

After the upgrade I have run around 2000 km on the new tyres

Most of my driving is on City roads and between Noida and Delhi, and take the same route to office. So the roads are very familiar with most of the potholes/speedbreakers mentally mapped

Experience on upgraded tyres
Feel
- The steering feels a little heavier.
- The car seems to run a somewhat smoother (especially between 80 - 100 kmph) - the potholes are a little less bumpy and the smaller speed breakers are easier to navigate.
- Noise - Marginal to no difference at speeds < 90 kmph.

Mileage
- I had been getting approx. 12.5 - 12.7 km/Litres on the Old tyres. On the new ones it seems to have slightly improved to 12.9 - 13.1 km/litres. This is measured on the full tank method. MID has been consistently displaying around 0.5 to 0.7 Km/litres more in both the cases. Driving style/roads etc. are almost similar.

Costs
- Rs 20,400 with a Rs 1600 for the 4 old tyres ( 5,500 per tyre)

rockygidz · 21st April 2017, 11:16

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6th September 2007, 10:17	#1
styx71 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 130 Thanked: 85 Times	Wheel upgrade for Verna - R14 or R15? Hi, Could someone please answer the below questions specific to 2 tyre sizes. The stock tyre would be 175/70 R14(Verna - which i plan to buy by the end of this month). I have decided on the width as 185mm. Driving - Mainly in Bangalore(infamous for its pot holes & speed breakers). I usually do not drive too fast(atleast not in the city). 185/65 R14 versus 185/60 R15 1. I used the calculators in the below links to see the difference. Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tyre Bible Page 2 of 2 I found that the overall diameters of these 2 sizes are close to that of the stock wheel(stock wheel - 600.45mm, 14" new wheel - 595.88mm & 15" new wheel - 602.99mm). Is it safe to assume that I would not be risking hitting the upper side of the wheel wells in case of 15" wheel, on bad roads with the car fully laden(including the load inside the boot). 2. Which aspect ratio is more suitable for Bangalore 65 or 60 - Is the difference too much 3. Which one is better considering the following aspects. Is the difference too much or barely noticeable a) Ride quality/Comfort b) Mileage c) Handling 4. Will there be any adverse effects on the suspension 5. For tyres, which would be best compromise considering lesser noise, good grip & good tyre life. Looks dont matter to me - in this case only Thanks in advance for all your help!
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6th September 2007, 14:01	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,546 Thanked: 300,785 Times View My Garage	Since you arent into fast enthusiastic driving, I would recommend you staying with the 14 inchers only. The Verna is not exactly a handler so its best for you to retain the comfort levels with a 14" rim size. Choose between a 185 or a 195 width tyre for the Verna. Rehaans Article on Tyre Upsizing has valuable information as well as a downloadable excel sheet with recommended upsizes. Hope that helps.
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6th September 2007, 20:02	#3
styx71 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 130 Thanked: 85 Times	Thanks GTO, I'll keep the handling & comfort aspect in mind.
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6th October 2007, 20:31	#4
HotChillyPepper BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bang_a_lore Posts: 628 Thanked: 289 Times View My Garage	What about 195/55R15 ? This one is an exact match and there is no speedo error. But will it hit the sidewalls? Anyone tried this one on a verna before?
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6th October 2007, 23:56	#5
itzzme BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 314 Thanked: 6 Times	one of pals is running on 205/55R15, no problems so far.195/55R15 is good inch-up.
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7th October 2007, 00:02	#6
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Isint 205/55/50 a wrong size i thought 205/50/15 would be better.
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8th October 2007, 00:48	#7
itzzme BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 314 Thanked: 6 Times	205/55 R15 OD is only 1% more than stock tyres. Fairly good inch-up size.
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11th October 2008, 23:06	#8
hellstar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 44 Times	I am running 195/65/R14 Yoko A drives and they perfom like a dream in comparison to teh MRF ZVTS that my car was running on for 45K KMS. I would suggest this tyre even though they are not competing with the michelins and the BS G-III in the cornering and handling section.
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11th October 2008, 23:44	#9
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I'd say keep it to 14 inchers itself since you want more comfort. Contact iraghava , he will help you better. Cheers
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21st February 2017, 09:35	#10
Sujoy Mukherjee Newbie Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Delhi Posts: 13 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: Wheel upgrade for Verna - R14 or R15? Car tyres Upgrade I upgraded the car tyres from Turanza T001 195/65 R15 which came as stock tyres with the car. The main reason was side wall cut to 2 tyres. They had done around 23500 KM so were practically new. Upgraded all 4 tyres to 205/65 R15 Yokohama Earth 1, while keeping the spare tyre as a Turanza (Practically unused) After the upgrade I have run around 2000 km on the new tyres Most of my driving is on City roads and between Noida and Delhi, and take the same route to office. So the roads are very familiar with most of the potholes/speedbreakers mentally mapped Experience on upgraded tyres Feel - The steering feels a little heavier. - The car seems to run a somewhat smoother (especially between 80 - 100 kmph) - the potholes are a little less bumpy and the smaller speed breakers are easier to navigate. - Noise - Marginal to no difference at speeds < 90 kmph. Mileage - I had been getting approx. 12.5 - 12.7 km/Litres on the Old tyres. On the new ones it seems to have slightly improved to 12.9 - 13.1 km/litres. This is measured on the full tank method. MID has been consistently displaying around 0.5 to 0.7 Km/litres more in both the cases. Driving style/roads etc. are almost similar. Costs - Rs 20,400 with a Rs 1600 for the 4 old tyres ( 5,500 per tyre)
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rockygidz BANNED Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: Wheel upgrade for Verna - R14 or R15? Post deleted by the Team-BHP Support : Please do NOT post messages that add little or no informational value to the thread. We need your co-operation to maintain the quality of this forum. Please read our rules before proceeding any further. We request you to post ONLY when you have something substantial to add to a discussion. Last edited by GTO : 21st June 2017 at 11:08.
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