Best Tyres under 3.5k for Esteem

Pani · 2nd November 2007, 17:49

Hello Friends,
I have a 2000 model Esteem. Its now time to change the tyres.
Till date its on its stock 155/80/R13 tyres on its stock steel rims. I dont have the budget to go with alloy wheels. But I would want to go for a real good tyre set. I have allocated 3.5k max for a tyre. I am pretty newbie at Tyre models.
I have already done some homework by going through the threads on this forum which has been very very informative. I now know the advantages and disadvantages of low-profile tyres and also the tubed Vs tube-less comparison et al.

I am based at Bangalore. The other day I went to a good Tyre Store and he showed me Michelin 185/70/R13...It looked pretty decent and this guy quoted 3.4k for them. I can buy them but now before I get a thumbs-up from you punters

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My preference goes in this order:
1. Comfort
2. Grip (lowest Braking distance)
3. Handling (I dont drive all that fast, but sometimes I do

)

Please suggest the best set of tyres for my purpose considering it would be on the stock rims.
BTW, the store guy told me that I can also use my existing tubes inside my Tubeless tyres

....are there any advantages of this ??????

Pani · 2nd November 2007, 18:43

I am also concerned about Mileage drop. What kind of mileage drop should I be expecting with an upsize from 155/80/13 to 185/70/13 ??

rr_zen · 2nd November 2007, 21:07

175/70/R13 should be the ideal size for the Esteem considering the fact that you are using the stock rims. Michelin is certainly good and rated high amongst T-BHPians. You can try Yokohama as well.

Why would you want to have tubes inside a tubeless tyre ?

lamborghini · 2nd November 2007, 21:22

Hey,
firstly tubes in a tubeless tyre is a big NO NO safety wise.
Avoid it as much as possible. You can do a search and understand why.
Which Michelin did the tyre guy show you?
On the stock rims, 175/70R13 is the perfect match.
You should look at Yokohama S and C drives, as well as the Michelin Energy XM1/XMV8.
There should be a small, insignificant mileage drop but a noticeable increase in comfort and handling and braking.

iraghava · 2nd November 2007, 21:23

Pani - I would recommend 175/70 R13's for your car. 185's would be too wide. Also the mileage drop from 155 to 175 should be around 1kmpl.

And both Michelin's or Yokohama's would be good for your car. 175/70 R13 in Michelin should cost you around 2700 or so per tyre. Yokohama will be slightly cheaper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamborghini

You should look at Yokohama S and C drives, as well as the Michelin Energy XM1/XMV8.

Lambo neither S-Drives nor C-Drives are available in India in this size.

bruce · 2nd November 2007, 21:24

recently i bought Yokohama ES-100 2900rs a piece, 185/60/14 fitted with Optra rims for my Esteem, I did not want to spend on alloys, You need to increase the centre dia of the optra wheel. Also optra wheels are scarce, when you buy make sure the valves are in good shape, otherwise each valve might cost around 500rs, then make sure you take the wheels to a lathe guy who does the job well. no need to have tubes on the tubeless unless the steel rims are old / rusted or the valves are bad.
for me Overall it's a satisfying effort!!
Remember that ES-100 is a soft tyre and it's uni-directional.

kjdesigns_2000 · 2nd November 2007, 21:24

175 would be the best suited tyre on the stock rims. Bridgestones and Michelins would be the best brand to go for. Low noise, good comfort and braking and looks good. Have'nt tried a Yokohama ever so i can't comment on that.

Also i am sure there would be a little milage drop and a bit heavy steering because of the upsize. Although keep in mind that VXI comes with 175 company fitted, so it should be good for esteem.

kpzen · 2nd November 2007, 22:41

Get 175/70-13 Michelin XM1 or Yokohama A300.. Its the best upsize possible in an esteem.
Both tyres would be well within your budget.. Prices have been mentioned by Ishan.

itzzme · 3rd November 2007, 10:05

Rightly suggested by KP, 175/70 R13 is best option.
In 2000 Esteem sometimes there can be fouling in case of 185/70 R13.

kpzen · 3rd November 2007, 10:25

Yes, the 185/70-13 tyres would scrape with the mud flaps.
I think fellow tbhpian turbo_c had them on his esteem but without mud flaps.

Pani · 6th November 2007, 14:35

Guys....thanks a lot for all your suggestions....I went 175/70/13 as almost all of you concurred on that choice....I got Michelin XM1....I couldnt get Energy XM1 as the company people said that Energy series starts at R14 only..

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but nevertheless, it turned out to be an excellent decission...the tyres are amazing....my steering feels soooo light (I have a manual steering) and the grip and control is superb...noise has reduced drastically and comfort levels have gone up significantly..all in all Michelin Zindabad

reignofchaos · 6th November 2007, 15:54

Yup... seemingly Energy XM1 is only on 14" or higher.

Michelin India - All Patterns

iraghava · 6th November 2007, 16:12

Congrats Pani, glad to know you're happy with the tyres, enjoy!!

kpzen · 6th November 2007, 18:56

Congrats pani....
Another Michelin fan in the making i guess...

n_aditya · 6th November 2007, 19:12

Hey pani, congrats on the purchase and the excellent choice. Fill 'em up with nitrogen for better results. Search for more info.

2nd November 2007, 17:49	#1
Pani BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 135 Thanked: 16 Times	Best Tyres under 3.5k for Esteem Hello Friends, I have a 2000 model Esteem. Its now time to change the tyres. Till date its on its stock 155/80/R13 tyres on its stock steel rims. I dont have the budget to go with alloy wheels. But I would want to go for a real good tyre set. I have allocated 3.5k max for a tyre. I am pretty newbie at Tyre models. I have already done some homework by going through the threads on this forum which has been very very informative. I now know the advantages and disadvantages of low-profile tyres and also the tubed Vs tube-less comparison et al. I am based at Bangalore. The other day I went to a good Tyre Store and he showed me Michelin 185/70/R13...It looked pretty decent and this guy quoted 3.4k for them. I can buy them but now before I get a thumbs-up from you punters. My preference goes in this order: 1. Comfort 2. Grip (lowest Braking distance) 3. Handling (I dont drive all that fast, but sometimes I do) Please suggest the best set of tyres for my purpose considering it would be on the stock rims. BTW, the store guy told me that I can also use my existing tubes inside my Tubeless tyres....are there any advantages of this ??????
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2nd November 2007, 18:43	#2
Pani BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 135 Thanked: 16 Times	I am also concerned about Mileage drop. What kind of mileage drop should I be expecting with an upsize from 155/80/13 to 185/70/13 ??
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2nd November 2007, 21:07	#3
rr_zen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 1,799 Thanked: 400 Times View My Garage	175/70/R13 should be the ideal size for the Esteem considering the fact that you are using the stock rims. Michelin is certainly good and rated high amongst T-BHPians. You can try Yokohama as well. Why would you want to have tubes inside a tubeless tyre ?
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2nd November 2007, 21:22	#4
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,114 Thanked: 5,761 Times View My Garage	Hey, firstly tubes in a tubeless tyre is a big NO NO safety wise. Avoid it as much as possible. You can do a search and understand why. Which Michelin did the tyre guy show you? On the stock rims, 175/70R13 is the perfect match. You should look at Yokohama S and C drives, as well as the Michelin Energy XM1/XMV8. There should be a small, insignificant mileage drop but a noticeable increase in comfort and handling and braking.
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2nd November 2007, 21:24	#6
bruce BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	recently i bought Yokohama ES-100 2900rs a piece, 185/60/14 fitted with Optra rims for my Esteem, I did not want to spend on alloys, You need to increase the centre dia of the optra wheel. Also optra wheels are scarce, when you buy make sure the valves are in good shape, otherwise each valve might cost around 500rs, then make sure you take the wheels to a lathe guy who does the job well. no need to have tubes on the tubeless unless the steel rims are old / rusted or the valves are bad. for me Overall it's a satisfying effort!! Remember that ES-100 is a soft tyre and it's uni-directional.
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2nd November 2007, 21:24	#7
kjdesigns_2000 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 160 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	175 would be the best suited tyre on the stock rims. Bridgestones and Michelins would be the best brand to go for. Low noise, good comfort and braking and looks good. Have'nt tried a Yokohama ever so i can't comment on that. Also i am sure there would be a little milage drop and a bit heavy steering because of the upsize. Although keep in mind that VXI comes with 175 company fitted, so it should be good for esteem.
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2nd November 2007, 22:41	#8
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Get 175/70-13 Michelin XM1 or Yokohama A300.. Its the best upsize possible in an esteem. Both tyres would be well within your budget.. Prices have been mentioned by Ishan.
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3rd November 2007, 10:05	#9
itzzme BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 314 Thanked: 6 Times	Rightly suggested by KP, 175/70 R13 is best option. In 2000 Esteem sometimes there can be fouling in case of 185/70 R13.
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3rd November 2007, 10:25	#10
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Yes, the 185/70-13 tyres would scrape with the mud flaps. I think fellow tbhpian turbo_c had them on his esteem but without mud flaps.
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6th November 2007, 14:35	#11
Pani BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 135 Thanked: 16 Times	Thanks a Lot Guys....thanks a lot for all your suggestions....I went 175/70/13 as almost all of you concurred on that choice....I got Michelin XM1....I couldnt get Energy XM1 as the company people said that Energy series starts at R14 only... but nevertheless, it turned out to be an excellent decission...the tyres are amazing....my steering feels soooo light (I have a manual steering) and the grip and control is superb...noise has reduced drastically and comfort levels have gone up significantly..all in all Michelin Zindabad
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6th November 2007, 15:54	#12
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	Yup... seemingly Energy XM1 is only on 14" or higher. Michelin India - All Patterns
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6th November 2007, 16:12	#13
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Congrats Pani, glad to know you're happy with the tyres, enjoy!!
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6th November 2007, 18:56	#14
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Congrats pani.... Another Michelin fan in the making i guess...
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6th November 2007, 19:12	#15
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,348 Thanked: 3,684 Times View My Garage	Hey pani, congrats on the purchase and the excellent choice. Fill 'em up with nitrogen for better results. Search for more info. Last edited by n_aditya : 6th November 2007 at 19:15.
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