Tubeless tyres for Corolla

novice · 20th December 2004, 17:23

Hi,

I am buying a H2 Corolla and I want to opt for Tubeless tyres. The dealer is suggesting me to go for Michelin 205/60/R15 tubeless tyres on the existing factory fitted alloys and he is quoting Rs.25000 as exchange price. The car is due for delivery on 22nd.

Could you guys please advice me whether I should opt for the above mentioned tyres, what would be the positive and negative aspects of this upgrade. Also is the price justified.

Thanks,
novice.

GTO · 20th December 2004, 17:38

Yes, you should go for the abovementioned tyres. Tubeless tyres are the only way to go with such a powerful machine.

Butttttttttttttttttttttttt 25,000 is ridiculous for only the tyre upgrade. I dont know about Bangalore prices, but in Bombay upgrading all 5 tyres would cost you a total of 5000 - 7500 (max).

GTO

Rtech · 20th December 2004, 17:52

Hey GTO, I doubt any dealer would sell you tyres for Rs. 1000-1500, def. not 205/15's.
And as Rudra had mentioned previously, bangalore for some reason is more expensive than Mumbai.

Which tyres are these anyway? Are they the Certis? If so, then thats too expensive as i think new tyres alone cost that much, and you should expect Rs.2,500 in return for your old ones.

You could either bargain with the dealer itself, or otherwise check out a few local tyres shops. They will give you way better rates than any dealer will.

Rt

novice · 20th December 2004, 18:38

Thanks for the reply, the tyre model is Pilot Preceda. Is it a good tyre?

Thanks,
Novice.

Rudra Sen · 20th December 2004, 19:45

Hey Novice,
since you're in Bangalore, I suggest you go to 'Hot Tracks'. In case you don't know the location.. it's at Cotton Complex next to Bishop Cotton school at Residency Road.
Take the car straight from showroom to his shop. You should get much better price than your dealer is asking for. I bought five tyres few months back from him without any exchange. You can take my name if you wish. The owner's name is Anil. To add on you can mention 'black Optra'.

I hope that helps. Congrats for your new car.

speedsatya · 20th December 2004, 22:39

ur old tires shud fetch u 5k at the most .
anew tire shud cost 2.5k-3k while a new rim shud also cost abt 3k-4k.so @ 6K for one tire-rim combo,u can get a set of 5 for inside 30k .that minus ur stok tires wshud be aroung 25k max.
25k for only tires is ridculous.tell the dealer to FO,but say that only after u get ur car delivered.

GTO · 21st December 2004, 10:41

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Originally Posted by rtech

Hey GTO, I doubt any dealer would sell you tyres for Rs. 1000-1500, def. not 205/15's.
And as Rudra had mentioned previously, bangalore for some reason is more expensive than Mumbai.

Do these kind of transactions all the time. If from the showroom itself, or the new car is driven straight to the tyre dealer....you will get about 2200 for EACH old tyre. A 205 should cost you in the range of 3500, so that gets you a tyre upgrade for 6500 for ALL 5 tyres.

Its a win win for the tyre dealer too. The tyre that you sell to him for 2200 retails for 3000. And the tyre that you have bought from him for 3500....well, he has a cut on that too.

Coincidentally one of my close friends, Gaurav, recently did this on his brand new Black Corolla.

GTO

Rehaan · 21st December 2004, 11:26

Hey Novice,

as GTO, Rtech and Rudra have said -

1. Dont buy from the dealer - its a ripoff
2. Speak to a tire shop and ask what price they will give you for the corolla tires if you drive there straight from the showroom (should be between 2000-2600 PER tire)
3. Although i have no experience with the pilot preceda, it is supposed to be the michelin model between the Certis (comfort) and the MXF (ultra-sport). I have a car with the certis and a car with the MXF and both are great tires....so im sure the preceda is a good tire!
4. You might want to consider sticking to the 195/60R15 size (it will save you a couple of bucks, plus a tiny bit of fuel economy)... unless u really plan to squeeze the corolla on the cornering front, then the 205 might be a better idea.

Goin for a set of tubeless tires is a wise upgrade...good choice.
Also, its a very good idea to go from shop to shop asking what buyback price and selling price they will give you for the tires you want... (make sure they factor in the costs of fittment/balancing/alignment and dont dump that on you later). You might find a huge difference from shop to shop.....also they will try and sell you all sorts of different tires claiming that they are much bettter than the pilot preceda...but thats just them trying to do bussiness.

Goodluck, and do let us know how it goes.
cya
R

speedsatya · 21st December 2004, 12:01

instead of 205/60r15,i think 205/55r15 wud be a much better buy as the OD differnce is negligible in the latter.

gurdeep_s · 21st December 2004, 13:30

I got S322 175/70 R13 changet to Certis 175/70 R13. The guy charged a total 3800 as a replacement for all the five tyres...This included fitting, banancing etc.
The dealer was asking 12500 for the same....
So talk to the tyre shops on JC road and Langford road. You can negotiate a much better deal...

20th December 2004, 17:23	#1
novice BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 284 Thanked: 263 Times	Tubeless tyres for Corolla Hi, I am buying a H2 Corolla and I want to opt for Tubeless tyres. The dealer is suggesting me to go for Michelin 205/60/R15 tubeless tyres on the existing factory fitted alloys and he is quoting Rs.25000 as exchange price. The car is due for delivery on 22nd. Could you guys please advice me whether I should opt for the above mentioned tyres, what would be the positive and negative aspects of this upgrade. Also is the price justified. Thanks, novice.
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20th December 2004, 17:38	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,503 Thanked: 300,312 Times View My Garage	Yes, you should go for the abovementioned tyres. Tubeless tyres are the only way to go with such a powerful machine. Butttttttttttttttttttttttt 25,000 is ridiculous for only the tyre upgrade. I dont know about Bangalore prices, but in Bombay upgrading all 5 tyres would cost you a total of 5000 - 7500 (max). GTO
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20th December 2004, 17:52	#3
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Hey GTO, I doubt any dealer would sell you tyres for Rs. 1000-1500, def. not 205/15's. And as Rudra had mentioned previously, bangalore for some reason is more expensive than Mumbai. Which tyres are these anyway? Are they the Certis? If so, then thats too expensive as i think new tyres alone cost that much, and you should expect Rs.2,500 in return for your old ones. You could either bargain with the dealer itself, or otherwise check out a few local tyres shops. They will give you way better rates than any dealer will. Rt
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20th December 2004, 18:38	#4
novice BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 284 Thanked: 263 Times	Thanks for the reply, the tyre model is Pilot Preceda. Is it a good tyre? Thanks, Novice.
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20th December 2004, 19:45	#5
Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,588 Thanked: 6,530 Times View My Garage	Hey Novice, since you're in Bangalore, I suggest you go to 'Hot Tracks'. In case you don't know the location.. it's at Cotton Complex next to Bishop Cotton school at Residency Road. Take the car straight from showroom to his shop. You should get much better price than your dealer is asking for. I bought five tyres few months back from him without any exchange. You can take my name if you wish. The owner's name is Anil. To add on you can mention 'black Optra'. I hope that helps. Congrats for your new car.
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20th December 2004, 22:39	#6
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	ur old tires shud fetch u 5k at the most . anew tire shud cost 2.5k-3k while a new rim shud also cost abt 3k-4k.so @ 6K for one tire-rim combo,u can get a set of 5 for inside 30k .that minus ur stok tires wshud be aroung 25k max. 25k for only tires is ridculous.tell the dealer to FO,but say that only after u get ur car delivered.
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21st December 2004, 11:26	#8
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,039 Thanked: 34,070 Times	Hey Novice, as GTO, Rtech and Rudra have said - 1. Dont buy from the dealer - its a ripoff 2. Speak to a tire shop and ask what price they will give you for the corolla tires if you drive there straight from the showroom (should be between 2000-2600 PER tire) 3. Although i have no experience with the pilot preceda, it is supposed to be the michelin model between the Certis (comfort) and the MXF (ultra-sport). I have a car with the certis and a car with the MXF and both are great tires....so im sure the preceda is a good tire! 4. You might want to consider sticking to the 195/60R15 size (it will save you a couple of bucks, plus a tiny bit of fuel economy)... unless u really plan to squeeze the corolla on the cornering front, then the 205 might be a better idea. Goin for a set of tubeless tires is a wise upgrade...good choice. Also, its a very good idea to go from shop to shop asking what buyback price and selling price they will give you for the tires you want... (make sure they factor in the costs of fittment/balancing/alignment and dont dump that on you later). You might find a huge difference from shop to shop.....also they will try and sell you all sorts of different tires claiming that they are much bettter than the pilot preceda...but thats just them trying to do bussiness. Goodluck, and do let us know how it goes. cya R
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21st December 2004, 12:01	#9
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	instead of 205/60r15,i think 205/55r15 wud be a much better buy as the OD differnce is negligible in the latter.
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21st December 2004, 13:30	#10
gurdeep_s Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 12 Thanked: 0 Times	I got S322 175/70 R13 changet to Certis 175/70 R13. The guy charged a total 3800 as a replacement for all the five tyres...This included fitting, banancing etc. The dealer was asking 12500 for the same.... So talk to the tyre shops on JC road and Langford road. You can negotiate a much better deal...
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