Different size/width rims on the front & rear ?

AMG.EUROPE · 19th April 2008, 22:38

What happens if we have thinner wheel like 7j in the front and wider 8j wheels at the rear? Also I have seen for lot of sports carspeople use 17"front 18"rear. Is it good for our indian cars? Any one tried ?

iraghava · 20th April 2008, 01:39

For most Indian cars it is no good since most of the cars in our market are Front Wheel Drive. This staggered wheel/tyre size practice is best used for high-performance Rear Wheel Drive cars, hardly any of which are sold in our country.

If you do want to try it out you can but I must warn you that it will exaggerate understeer to a major level on most FWD's.

AMG.EUROPE · 22nd April 2008, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

For most Indian cars it is no good since most of the cars in our market are Front Wheel Drive. This staggered wheel/tyre size practice is best used for high-performance Rear Wheel Drive cars, hardly any of which are sold in our country.

If you do want to try it out you can but I must warn you that it will exaggerate understeer to a major level on most FWD's.

Thanks for the commment Iraghav.

Can you please tell me the specifications I can go with honda civic in 17 inch wheels. Rim size front and back, PCD-114.3?, Offset-?(+43.....), Bore dia - (...), How much lip I can get..etc

autopsyche · 22nd April 2008, 18:35

you can go with 17 x 7.0 or 17 x 7.5 on the civic, bore dia should be equal to the stock wheel bore dia which you can measure with a scale. Offset can range between +38 to +43 depending upon the wheel design. Also, lip depends upon the design. The most common tire size youll find for the civic is 225/45/17

AMG.EUROPE · 23rd April 2008, 06:43

As pre orders have started for rays wheels, Im looking at some of these wheels for my civic.

Most of them fall in 17, 18" - 114.3, +42 - +45, 7.5j-8j. Most of the wheels have different rim widths(lip as we call) and ofcourse custom colorscan be ordered. I wanted the ionic color in pro 57, 57 max

AMG.EUROPE · 23rd April 2008, 06:45

In addition I am getting custom center cap & bolts

theexister · 23rd April 2008, 11:42

Hi AMG...

The alloys look great but where in Hyderabad are you getting them from?

AMG.EUROPE · 23rd April 2008, 14:21

Rays India Office is in jubilee hills. I dont know if I can phone no here, but here it is 99 6666 0001/2 expect the 17"above Rs 80,000.

iraghava · 23rd April 2008, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMG.EUROPE

As pre orders have started for rays wheels, Im looking at some of these wheels for my civic.

Who are buying them from? mAuto?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMG.EUROPE

Most of them fall in 17, 18" - 114.3, +42 - +45, 7.5j-8j. Most of the wheels have different rim widths(lip as we call) and ofcourse custom colorscan be ordered. I wanted the ionic color in pro 57, 57 max

No, rim width is not referred to as the lip. The protruding area of the rim on the edges after the spokes is called the lip.

And what is a set of 17" in that design & finish costing you landed?

AMG.EUROPE · 23rd April 2008, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by iraghava

Who are buying them from? mAuto?

No, rim width is not referred to as the lip. The protruding area of the rim on the edges after the spokes is called the lip.

And what is a set of 17" in that design & finish costing you landed?

Yes RAYS INDIA is Mauto.
In catalogue it mentions RIM width is lip, we can get so many lips sizes for same offset, pcd, design and size.

Yes Thats correct about lip & rim width, here in catalogue its denoted like that. I can get 2 different lips for same size wheels & design.

57 PRO - 1.3 Lks + 40k for ionic color with vat

Prass · 8th November 2008, 01:34

Just a wild thought. Searched for a post but couldnt find one.
Mods: Pls merge if such a post exists.

Has anybody tried different pairs of tyres in the Front and Rear.
Will that provide any advantage in terms of handling/mileage.
Say if the front tyres of great directional stability and rear tyres with lot of grip. Yes, there can be issues with tyre rotation and looks to an extent.

Guys, your views on this.

mail4loys · 8th November 2008, 09:22

Though i'm not sure about the advantage. I have been running for around 5K with front Apollo Acerele tubless tires and back Bridgestone tubed tires. For my car (ford ikon) the front trye worn out quicker, so went in for new tyres and opted for tubless.

trrk · 8th November 2008, 12:19

Hi Prass,

> Has anybody tried different pairs of tyres in the Front and Rear.

Due to a failure of a plan my Marina TDi has 165/80R14 JK tubeless tyres in the front and 175/65R14 (OEM spec) Apollo Aceleres in the rear.

> Will that provide any advantage in terms of handling/mileage.

Since the front tyres are non OEM, I have to do a correction to actually calculate the mileage. I have not seen any improvement / worsening of mileage or handling with this setup. The bigger sidewalls do make a slight positive difference in the ride.

Different size/width rims on the front & rear ?-marina2.jpg

Sorry for the not so good picture. Can you spot the different sized tyres?

> Yes, there can be issues with tyre rotation and looks to an extent.

Solved in my case. I never rotate them. They die a natural / unnatural death wherever they are.

Sahil · 8th November 2008, 13:02

Most performance cars have wider tires at the rear maybe to give more traction to the RWD system?

SHAHBAAZ · 27th December 2012, 00:02

Hello to all,
I am new to this site so do not know if the procedure to post my query here is correct. Moderators please help me in getting my query answered asap.
Thanks in advance.

I want to fit new tyres 175/80/r13 to my FIAT PALIO at the rear of the car, but at the same time keeping 165/80/r13 at front as these have done only 7k kms.

My query:
1.Should there be any problem in car stability or mannerism while driving on rough patches of road?
2.Will it help in keeping less jerks at the rear?
3.I do not want to reduce the side wall from 80 to 70 which dealers advice when increasing the width of tyre. Is it correct?
Kindly advice as I am planning for this.

Also which tyre is best to reduce noise in Palio - Michilen/Bridgestone/Apollo?

19th April 2008, 22:38	#1
AMG.EUROPE BANNED Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	Different size/width rims on the front & rear ? What happens if we have thinner wheel like 7j in the front and wider 8j wheels at the rear? Also I have seen for lot of sports carspeople use 17"front 18"rear. Is it good for our indian cars? Any one tried ?
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20th April 2008, 01:39	#2
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	For most Indian cars it is no good since most of the cars in our market are Front Wheel Drive. This staggered wheel/tyre size practice is best used for high-performance Rear Wheel Drive cars, hardly any of which are sold in our country. If you do want to try it out you can but I must warn you that it will exaggerate understeer to a major level on most FWD's.
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22nd April 2008, 18:35	#4
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,519 Thanked: 33 Times View My Garage	you can go with 17 x 7.0 or 17 x 7.5 on the civic, bore dia should be equal to the stock wheel bore dia which you can measure with a scale. Offset can range between +38 to +43 depending upon the wheel design. Also, lip depends upon the design. The most common tire size youll find for the civic is 225/45/17
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23rd April 2008, 06:43	#5
AMG.EUROPE BANNED Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	As pre orders have started for rays wheels, Im looking at some of these wheels for my civic. Most of them fall in 17, 18" - 114.3, +42 - +45, 7.5j-8j. Most of the wheels have different rim widths(lip as we call) and ofcourse custom colorscan be ordered. I wanted the ionic color in pro 57, 57 max Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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23rd April 2008, 06:45	#6
AMG.EUROPE BANNED Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	some more In addition I am getting custom center cap & bolts Attached Thumbnails
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23rd April 2008, 11:42	#7
theexister BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad...now moved to Bangalore Posts: 173 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Hi AMG... The alloys look great but where in Hyderabad are you getting them from?
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23rd April 2008, 14:21	#8
AMG.EUROPE BANNED Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 37 Thanked: 0 Times	Rays India Office is in jubilee hills. I dont know if I can phone no here, but here it is 99 6666 0001/2 expect the 17"above Rs 80,000.
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8th November 2008, 01:34	#11
Prass BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 87 Thanked: 17 Times	Different pair of tyres in Front and Rear Just a wild thought. Searched for a post but couldnt find one. Mods: Pls merge if such a post exists. Has anybody tried different pairs of tyres in the Front and Rear. Will that provide any advantage in terms of handling/mileage. Say if the front tyres of great directional stability and rear tyres with lot of grip. Yes, there can be issues with tyre rotation and looks to an extent. Guys, your views on this.
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8th November 2008, 09:22	#12
mail4loys BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 378 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Though i'm not sure about the advantage. I have been running for around 5K with front Apollo Acerele tubless tires and back Bridgestone tubed tires. For my car (ford ikon) the front trye worn out quicker, so went in for new tyres and opted for tubless.
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8th November 2008, 12:19	#13
trrk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alleppey, Kerala Posts: 2,114 Thanked: 34 Times View My Garage	Hi Prass, > Has anybody tried different pairs of tyres in the Front and Rear. Due to a failure of a plan my Marina TDi has 165/80R14 JK tubeless tyres in the front and 175/65R14 (OEM spec) Apollo Aceleres in the rear. > Will that provide any advantage in terms of handling/mileage. Since the front tyres are non OEM, I have to do a correction to actually calculate the mileage. I have not seen any improvement / worsening of mileage or handling with this setup. The bigger sidewalls do make a slight positive difference in the ride. Sorry for the not so good picture. Can you spot the different sized tyres? > Yes, there can be issues with tyre rotation and looks to an extent. Solved in my case. I never rotate them. They die a natural / unnatural death wherever they are.
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8th November 2008, 13:02	#14
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	Most performance cars have wider tires at the rear maybe to give more traction to the RWD system?
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27th December 2012, 00:02	#15
SHAHBAAZ BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 143 Thanked: 116 Times	Mismatched size of tyre pair in front and rear of a car. Hello to all, I am new to this site so do not know if the procedure to post my query here is correct. Moderators please help me in getting my query answered asap. Thanks in advance. I want to fit new tyres 175/80/r13 to my FIAT PALIO at the rear of the car, but at the same time keeping 165/80/r13 at front as these have done only 7k kms. My query: 1.Should there be any problem in car stability or mannerism while driving on rough patches of road? 2.Will it help in keeping less jerks at the rear? 3.I do not want to reduce the side wall from 80 to 70 which dealers advice when increasing the width of tyre. Is it correct? Kindly advice as I am planning for this. Also which tyre is best to reduce noise in Palio - Michilen/Bridgestone/Apollo?
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