[zzzehar]

Hi
I wanted to know if it is possible to upgrade the rim size to 14 inches on Indica V2 DLS?
The car is 2005 make and I believe the Turbo models launched thereafter had 14 inches rim size. Is the suspension same or would the tyre touch the walls?

What else could be done to improve the ride quality? I find the car tough to manouver in city conditions. FYI...I have upgraded from Matiz.

Thanks

[dkamath]

Not an amateur comment for sure. But decided not to go for this change when i had thought about it too with our Indica. The suspension setup is different on the 14" models (A-link joints, struts both front and rear, is what i was told).
Another thing, the ride quality doesn't improve by going in for this change. I was told that the ride gets a little "squishy" too compared with the 13" models (due to the higher aspect ratio and thus the tyre sidewalls). As for me, i went in for alloys instead.

You could also lookup into archives at the Tata Indica Users Group (TIUG) for more info on this. Dr.Rajesh (trrk) would definetely throw more light when he reads this thread

[greenhorn]

obviously, speedo error will be there,
Regarding the suspension etc, i think they are the same ( not sure though)
The bigger wheels might make the steering a bit more heavy

[upsize_expert]

it would be better to upgrade to a 14 " alloy and tyres 185/60/14 michelin pp2 it would a good combo ... try sai iyengar and sons in indiranagar contact ashwin 9880116405.. he will give a lot of options changed my tyres there good service

[greenhorn]

Wow, talk about having an apt nickname

PS: what about 185/60 Potenza G III's ( for sheer grip, forget ride comfort ) ?

[trrk]

Hi dkamath,

> Dr.Rajesh (trrk) would definetely throw more light when he reads this
> thread

You gave me no option now.

@zzzehar

> What else could be done to improve the ride quality?

The 14 inch tyred Indica models with 165/65R14 are definitely harsher in the lower speeds than the regular wheeled ones, from my experience on the test drives done of different models. My Marina (17565R14) is definitely stiffer in its ride than my earlier Indica (165/65R13).

I am not good on the technicals, so not sure if the suspensions are different or same.

Since I don't change the OEM specs I am not aware how a differently sized tyre would affect the ride / performance.

Ride quality is very subjective, in my opinion.

[greenhorn]

@ trrk, If i recall correctly, Tata had introduced a softer suspension for the indica, but went back to the stiffer setup after some feedback. yours might have been one of those. Which year was it made ?

[zzzehar]

Thank you very much all for your quick responses.
As the suspension is different, I guess I will stick to the stock rims.
Considering the car's heavy weight, I thought 14 inches might be able to handle the car well at high speeds (or may be city conditions as well?). Anyways, now I know I was wrong :-)

Thank you all, once again. TBHP Rocks !

[greenhorn]

for high speeds , upsize your tyres to 185/60R13's

for more ride comfort and less noise , get premium tyres, preferably michelins. Wonder if any are available in that size

[Bouncer]

I am in the same dilemma. About to buy Indica DLS for my wife. I have stock 14" rims from my Indigo XL which are 100% unused as I changed to alloys on day one.

I was planning to fit these on new DLS immediately with Michellin tubeless tyres. If DLX comes with 14" as standard there won't be problem with DLS. Will it improve FE? And will deffrence in ride quality (good or bad) be noticable?

The car will be spending 1,500 kms per month on highways apart from usual city riding.

Originally Posted by greenhorn

If i recall correctly, Tata had introduced a softer suspension for the indica, but went back to the stiffer setup

So now it has stiffer suspension (?). Is it good or bad for 14"?

Originally Posted by zzzehar

As the suspension is different...

Had you confirmed this at the time?

[greenhorn]

DLX and DLG ( and i think the DLS Dicor) come with 14" as standard. Steering and low speed ride was better on a xeta (with 13" rims) I drove. But not as confident at higher speeds or cornering. I think Your wife ( assuming she conforms to the prevalent women driver stereotype ) will be better off with the 13 inchers. if she is a spirited driver, then the 14" ers would make sense. but in that case, why not the DLG turbo/DLS DICOR!
in addition, the gear ratios for the cars with 14"ers (DLG/DLX) are different. not sure about the suspension though.

[Bouncer]

Originally Posted by greenhorn

...assuming she conforms to the prevalent women driver stereotype...

No way! Likes to redline my XL and cousin's Innova on highways

Originally Posted by greenhorn

...if she is a spirited driver...

Yes way!

Originally Posted by greenhorn

...but in that case, why not the DLG turbo/DLS DICOR!

Tight budget. Otherwise Vista Aqua TDi is close to these. Thought of that as well.

Originally Posted by greenhorn

in addition, the gear ratios for the cars with 14"ers (DLG/DLX) are different...

Haven't noticed. Will this matter/affect in 14" case?

[greenhorn]

you did read about the official 30k price cuts right ?

I'm not sure about the performance implications, but i think acceleration should be affected