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Originally Posted by anurag_p80 Cartels* — Arrangement(s) between competing firms designed to limit or eliminate competition between them, with the objective of increasing prices and profits of the participating companies and without producing any objective countervailing benefits. In practice, this is generally done by fixing prices, limiting output, sharing markets, allocating customers or territories, bid rigging, or a combination of these. Cartels are harmful to consumers and society as a whole because the participating companies charge higher prices (and earn higher profits) than they would in a competitive market. Source: COMPETITION AND DEVELOPMENT: Glossary of Terms and Abbreviations: International Development Research Centre)
@Nikhilb: No offense, but it certainly does fit the definition, whether done by producers or dealers. Fabulous explanation though. IMHO, this kind of price fixing allows the dealers to earn super normal profits (profits they would not earn in purely competitive market). And just btw, if what you say about Indian mentality is true, we would not have any markets for premium retailers (groceries, for example. Same thing aint it, just a price difference), multiplexes (same movie, aint it?) etc. I just want to say that customers anywhere in the world would pay a premium for a better experience. Also, by fixing a least possible margin by taking the large dealer's case, how will the small guy compete? What is the incentive for the large dealer to invest in customer experience/ relationships? |
No no. In the tyre industry, a cartel would be if Michelin, Continental, Yokohama, Bridgestone and MRF agreed to increase the prices of ALL their tyres by 20% without any reason. That would be bad for everyone EXCEPT the company itself.
BTW, super profits? Dude, my dad has been in the tyre industry for more than 35 years. My family has been in it for more than 60 years. Going by your logic, we should have been rolling in money. But we arent.
It's a very very tough business. There is no extra profit at all to be made in this business. Believe me. Very few people in the tyre industry(selling tyres) are crorepatis. I know a few in the Bangalore market and they have made their money elsewhere or by doing shady things(tax evasion, smuggling in from abroad, undervaluing imports, etc..).
In a purely market driven place, you will not have so many dealers. Currently, due to the "protection" offered by the big companies, many people are getting into it. If even this was not there, you would have less than half of the current number of dealers. Which would in turn mean that there would be no way of getting a good quote from one shop and bargaining with the other.
You say that the customer will pay for a premium service? I beg to differ. There are of course many people like that. Enough to keep the big showrooms in business, but 75% of the population is not like that.
You cant compare tyre industry to an FMCG or the entertainment business. A normal person buys tyres once in 3-4 years. How often does he go to a movie? Once in a month? Once in two months? There, volume will compensate. There is a large volume associated with those businesses. Not so in the tyre industry. In the movie business or even the grocery market, you have 1.2 billion potential customers EVERY month. Not so in the tyre market.
And nowadays, good labour too doesnt come cheap.
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Originally Posted by Raccoon Exactly one of the things I also wanted to say! Why would anybody then want to patronise the small shop?? Everyone would just make a beeline for the tyre showroom only! Sorry to say... but all the explainations for this practice are full of holes... |
It is not legally binding. That is why you see most small shops selling at 1-2% profit. That is what I am trying to say.
The incentive for a big dealer to ramp up his customer service, etc is to justify the relatively higher cost than the smaller shops. Also, the small shop will give freebies. Maybe WA/WB, whatever. None of the relatively big shops will give it free. An example is the MPP. Michelin Priority Partner. They will NOT give freebies. You pay more when you go there but in return you are assured of good quality tyres, no old stock(generally), 100% gauranteed original stuff and a better overall experience. Of course, if you have a very good rapport with a small dealer, then of course, nothing to beat it as they will treat you like a friend and take a personal interest in everything.
Look, you dont have to believe me. But I dont see anyone complaining abt the MRPs of various products. Why this?