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I recently changed the tyres on my punto. Got Rs 1000 per tyre as replacement( car has done 10000 kms). Each Primacy LC tyre costed 4950/-. Bougt it from Autoworld, Ambience Mall Gurgaon.

Never buy tyres from Malls. Reliance or otherwise.

@ dhir_d: Replacement/buyback price depends upon how much tyres were run for. 'Ferrari1976' was going to change/swap tyres on day 1, hence that cost. Buyback price for your stock tyres is lower as you had put on 10,000 Kms on stock tyres.

I got the CPC2 in 205/55/R16 from Saifee yesterday for 7.5k per tyre.
I think you would be happier with CPC2 than with the Primacy LC given the road conditions in Mumbai.

Two of my OEM Turanza ER300s were damaged when I drove on a rough road that had buildings under construction. The nails/stones (or whatever they were) damaged i.e. sliced the sidewalls on both LHS tyres. Fortunately no leaks but the cuts made me a little nervous given I use my car mainly for long distance high speed driving.

After much thinking I decided to bite the bullet and switched to Michelins P-LCs 195/65 R15 (all 5 tyres including the unused spare) on my Altis. This change comes after sticking to BS for over 9 years (last Michelin was the Certis on my Esteem in 2000-01 interspersed with an experience with Falkens that is best forgotten.

These PLCs are even softer than the ER300s but I needed to experience that comfort and decided to bite the bullet.

First impression when I drove back home from my dealer is as expected - very good. ZERO rolling noise and the feelin that I am driving a different car! Of course with weak sidewalls (which I ranted about earlier) I need to be careful and will avoid rough roads as much as possible.

I got a Michelin warranty card and a nice Michelin branded Reebok track suit under some new scheme. All in all a good experience so far.

Cheers!

PS - And the dealer was kind enuff to fill the new automotive 'snake oil' in my tyres - nitrogen! LOL!

I was looking for this type of forum and today only I was able to search for this clap:.
So my question is I want to go for Primacy LC on my civic with the similar profile but is there any difference in 195/65/R15 (Stock size) or 195/60/R15 which one is better, basically in case of civic 195/60/R15 is better over stock size or not?
In my case driving is 60% on highway always 100- 120 or 120+ very very occasionaly whenever I get a chance but very controlled never screeched my tyres no high speed cornering..... like to drive fast on highways only.

Another question stupid: .... I have to change on my Indica and the current sizer is 185/60/R13 (On Allloys) in this same zise I want an option between Micheline and Bridgestone the driving would be only city driving and very very sedate driving......

Though I am sure the tyre gurus on TBHP can advise you better on size and availability, I'd believe for sedate driving and comfort go in for the XM1+ or the BS Turanzas.

Your highway driving habits more or less mirror mine. High speed driving (safety first) to cover max distance in min possible time without any sport driving tricks. My spouse refuses to let my exuberance surface whilst driving at highway speeds which I sometimes believe is a good thing after all.

A change to 195/60 can reduce the ride quality and possibly by a minor degree even the GC, already a problem with the Civic. So if you want to maintain the ride, go in for stock size 195/65s.

Cheers!

DOnt go for anything below 195/65 R15 on the Civic.

And you dont get XM1+ in that size. Nor do you get ER60s.

My suggestion would be the Conti CPC2 or the Primacy LC.

Thanks for your suggestion

You nailed it right In my case also it is the wify who keeps an eye on speedometer and moment is goes over 120 she starts saying I am not feeling good, road is bad, there is a lot of traffic lol: and then I have to take my foot off..... But I also think this is good in long term.... Last time I just reached panipat flayover from delhi side and a Captiva goes past at around 150+ I was at 110 but the way he crossed me was a little unexpectable I asked wify just once :) and she said nothing, Music change in car and then before we reach the toll gate(Distance 8 Km) I crossed that captiva at 160-165 then let him passed by and then did it again and after that same 110 with SVC on normal mode these type of stints once in a while are good but I would not recommend anyone doing this as it all depends on traffic and road quality also your cars condition.....

Hi Nikhil
Thanks for your suggestion.
Somehow in noida/chandigarh I dont find dealers selling conti I had asked about it last time I visited there and I am also confident in Micheline one of tha factor other than quality is support from dealers.

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You're welcome Lalit ji. But Nikhilb has advised you on what you should fit on your car(s). Let me know what you eventually switch to.

Will report on my experiences with the Michelins after having stuck to BS for nearly a decade.

The Bridgestones (S/B series, Turanzas, Potenzas) served me well on different cars over lakhs of kms on good roads and bad. Not a single problem. :thumbs up Needless to say all wheel and suspension maintenance (WB/WR/WA) was always meticulously performed at regular suggested intervals. My confidence in BS remains. Now let us see how the Michelins perform. Time will tell.

Cheers!

Just discovered today that the P-LCs on my car are made in Italy, not China as I thought previously.

The tyres are from the 5209 batch which I assume is Week 52 2009. Checked today at a well known dealer in Pune and his PLC 195/65 R15 stock had the same batch # i.e. 5209 and made in Italy.

Of course given Michelin's standards I think they will be of the same quality and performance no matter which country/plant they're made in.

Cheers!

I have PLCs on my car too.. how I do check if where they were made? Is there a particular marking/code printed on the tyres?

R2D2 --- You decoded the 5209 correctly. And as you rightly said, it doesnt matter where it is made. It's just for some silly psychological comfort for us! :p

iTNerd --- It is written on the sidewall. Maybe on the outside of the tyre or on the inside of the tyre.

I replaced all 5 OE Bridgestones with Michelin PLC's last week on my Civic. They are from the 4409 batch. Need to find out where they were made. I was told that these tyres are mostly manufactured in Thailand and a small part of it comes from China as well.

+1 to that. When I swapped my tyres, I stuck to 195/65 R15 for the Civic. The PLC's are extremely comfortable and I dont have any qualms thus far.

I verified the 5209 batch is from Italy and other batches may be from other plants. PLCs are v good but you need to be careful. They have soft sidewalls that are damaged relatively easily when compared to BS and other brands.

It is on the inner sidewall i.e the side facing the wheel well and chassis hence making it difficult to check unless you hoist the whole car off the ground and walk under it to the wheel. Or park the car on a ramp.

To more adventurous TBHPians, please never, EVER get under a car that is on a jack, it is very dangerous.

Best way for a car owner to find out? Pull the spare wheel out and check. :D Easy peasy!

Cheers!