Toughest sidewall...I am confused

rishi_kapoor · 14th September 2009, 17:19

Hi,

As part of my Raid-de-Himalaya preparation, I am looking at deciding whether to change exisiting Michelin 185/65/R-14 XM1+ tyres (10000 KMs old) or buy new shoes with tougher sidewall (?)

Request your views and suggestions. Thanks.

kpzen · 14th September 2009, 17:24

MRFs and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 !

Turanza ER60 are not available in 185/65-14. You will have to get 195/60-14.

rishi_kapoor · 14th September 2009, 17:27

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Originally Posted by kpzen

MRFs and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 !

Turanza ER60 are not available in 185/65-14. You will have to get 195/60-14.

which MRFs do you suggest?

techn0l0gist · 15th September 2009, 02:02

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Originally Posted by rishi_kapoor

which MRFs do you suggest?

hmm... if you _have_ to go for MRF, I'd suggest ZVTS, however be prepared for some scary moments as the grip levels are just not there due to the hard rubber!

kutlee · 15th September 2009, 08:53

check out dunlop direzzas. they have rim protector sidewalls. quite tough and grippy. check out your sizes.

jkdas · 15th September 2009, 09:22

The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?

greenhorn · 15th September 2009, 10:57

if its a question of toughness alone, and grip is not a priority, the S322's are kinda good too

Nikhilb2008 · 15th September 2009, 11:57

MRFs, Apollo Amazers, Bridgestone S322s.

The ER60s are not as hard as this. They are harder than the XM1+, but nowhere close to these tyres.

Food for thought. Vikram_d made it to Leh and back from Bangalore on his Swift with 195/60 R!5 Continental ContiPremiumContact2s. You really want to compromise on grip, comfort etc for the Leh trip? With a bit of care Im sure even XM1+s can handle the roads to Leh and back.

kpzen · 15th September 2009, 12:09

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Originally Posted by rishi_kapoor

which MRFs do you suggest?

Any MRF tire can take more abuse than any Michelin/ Yokos but don't expect much in terms of grip levels on good tarmacs.
In 185/65-14 you will get MRF ZV2K. I'm not sure about ZVTS.

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Originally Posted by techn0l0gist

hmm... if you _have_ to go for MRF, I'd suggest ZVTS, however be prepared for some scary moments as the grip levels are just not there due to the hard rubber!

But, ZVTS are good on dirt. On good tarmacs they lock up easily.

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Originally Posted by jkdas

The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

By size it should be for the Palio. Cedia has 15" wheels.

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

if its a question of toughness alone, and grip is not a priority, the S322's are kinda good too

S322 are good in terms of wear rate (can last a lifetime if u wish to

)but they don't have the toughest sidewall.

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Food for thought. Vikram_d made it to Leh and back from Bangalore on his Swift with 195/60 R!5 Continental ContiPremiumContact2s. You really want to compromise on grip, comfort etc for the Leh trip? With a bit of care Im sure even XM1+s can handle the roads to Leh and back.

Thats indeed an incredible achievement.

theMAG · 15th September 2009, 12:11

If you're for a tough tyre, nothing can beat the Indian makes. But you also compromise on grip.

kutlee · 15th September 2009, 13:08

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Originally Posted by jkdas

The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?

the question is only on sidewalls. so i said. overall toughness, may be MRF.

rishi_kapoor · 15th September 2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by jkdas

The tyre is for which car? Cedia?

kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?

This is for Palio GTX

iraghava · 24th September 2009, 01:30

Choose the Indian brands for sheer toughness. For everything else (read as grip, braking, feedback etc.) choose imported.

sgiitk · 24th September 2009, 11:16

I agree. One of the virtues of Radials are their soft side-walls. If you can get some 'Run Flat' tyres in your size then you will get stiff side-walls, as well as the bonus of some flexibility in when to fix a flat. Another possibility will be to go Cross Ply (if they still exist).

iraghava · 24th September 2009, 15:07

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

I agree. One of the virtues of Radials are their soft side-walls. If you can get some 'Run Flat' tyres in your size then you will get stiff side-walls, as well as the bonus of some flexibility in when to fix a flat. Another possibility will be to go Cross Ply (if they still exist).

With Cross Ply tyres he'll be picking up punctures faster than he can repair them. And runflats will cost him a bomb, not to mention that in the event of a puncture and driving it for a bit the tyre will be destroyed and rendered useless.

14th September 2009, 17:19	#1
rishi_kapoor BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 503 Thanked: 878 Times View My Garage	Toughest sidewall...I am confused Hi, As part of my Raid-de-Himalaya preparation, I am looking at deciding whether to change exisiting Michelin 185/65/R-14 XM1+ tyres (10000 KMs old) or buy new shoes with tougher sidewall (?) Request your views and suggestions. Thanks.
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kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,611 Thanked: 1,879 Times View My Garage	MRFs and Bridgestone Turanza ER60 ! Turanza ER60 are not available in 185/65-14. You will have to get 195/60-14.
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15th September 2009, 08:53	#5
kutlee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,141 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	check out dunlop direzzas. they have rim protector sidewalls. quite tough and grippy. check out your sizes.
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jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,493 Times View My Garage	The tyre is for which car? Cedia? kutlee; wont the Dunlops be bit soft for this kind of journey?
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greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,842 Thanked: 4,752 Times View My Garage	if its a question of toughness alone, and grip is not a priority, the S322's are kinda good too
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15th September 2009, 11:57	#8
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	MRFs, Apollo Amazers, Bridgestone S322s. The ER60s are not as hard as this. They are harder than the XM1+, but nowhere close to these tyres. Food for thought. Vikram_d made it to Leh and back from Bangalore on his Swift with 195/60 R!5 Continental ContiPremiumContact2s. You really want to compromise on grip, comfort etc for the Leh trip? With a bit of care Im sure even XM1+s can handle the roads to Leh and back.
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15th September 2009, 12:11	#10
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,811 Times View My Garage	If you're for a tough tyre, nothing can beat the Indian makes. But you also compromise on grip.
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24th September 2009, 01:30	#13
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 272 Times View My Garage	Choose the Indian brands for sheer toughness. For everything else (read as grip, braking, feedback etc.) choose imported.
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24th September 2009, 11:16	#14
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,796 Times	I agree. One of the virtues of Radials are their soft side-walls. If you can get some 'Run Flat' tyres in your size then you will get stiff side-walls, as well as the bonus of some flexibility in when to fix a flat. Another possibility will be to go Cross Ply (if they still exist).
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