Team-BHP - Replacement for my Getz CRDi?

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Originally Posted by kpzen (Post 3868955)

My Getz is a 110 bhp diesel which runs on box at 130 bhp.

Guess, your Rapid must be a 1.6. :thumbs up
The 1.5 isn't the same.

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Originally Posted by S2!!! (Post 3869469)

If I was in the market for a car with a 12L budget today, the S-Cross would be right on top of my list.

The second option could be the Polo GT TDI.

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Originally Posted by volkman10 (Post 3869484)

If you are still going ahead with a diesel then there is only one car I would recommend that is currently within your budget( stretched) - [b]S Cross DDiS320.

Hey kpzen, I think I agree with S2!!! and volkman10 here buddy. :thumbs up

I have owned a Getz myself for over 4 years albeit the 1.3l Petrol!! This is not even in the league of the 1.5 CRDI's performance, but the rest of the aspects were very similar. The space, build quality, ground clearance, practicality, etc were same, irrespective of the engine specs.

I have driven the 1.5 CRDI Getz in OEM avatar and it is scary to say the least, considering it does not even offer any safety kit as an option :Shockked:

As you don't need another Ford at home, there are only 2 other diesel cars with performance as USP:

1. Polo 1.5 GT TDI - You are right kpzen and this has lost the charm/aggression of the 1.6 TDI. Though on paper they are inseparable, the real world performance is 'World's Apart'. Additionally, if you are looking at rear bench space & boot space, this is not the car for you. Expensive after sales and skeletal network is the final nail.

2. S-Cross DDIS 320 - When I first drove Getz, I was floored by the acceleration. The reason I picked by the 1.6 GT TDI is because this car gave me the exact feel when I TD it. Hands down, the DDIS 320 from S-Cross has even better feel if not the same as my GT. The build quality, space, features, safety, etc, you name it and this 'Maruti' has it all. This car just about offers everything that you need and then some.

With some serious discounts on hand for the S-Cross, IMO there is no other car that can tick your requirements in the market today.

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Originally Posted by Vid6639 (Post 3868962)

KP, some of the options don't make sense. I mean a S-cross 1.3 after the Pete'd Getz is just too much of a downgrade.

My 1st choice is the S-cross 1.6, irrespective of variant you choose. Since it has safety covered, you don't have to worry about other features missing since you are already in a bare bones Getz. It's going to be more than the Getz for sure.

2nd choice will be the Chevy Cruze LT. Old but still a stonker in the engine department. It should be around 15-16 but I'm sure they have very deep discounts running.

3rd will be the Polo GT TDI as it's the only one that can come close to your older Getz.

I would have asked you to look at the Aspire or the Figo TDCI but you already have a Figo and I can guarantee you will be disappointed with the new Figo's dynamics vs the old one. The engine will blow you away but the dynamics are very un Ford like.

Thanks Viddy.

Scross 1.6 seems to be the best replacement for Getz. Both sleeper cars.

Will check out the Duster AWD once.

Cruze is out of budget, even with discounts.

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Originally Posted by breezydrive (Post 3869128)

If not in a hurry, wait for Vitara Brezza! The front looks masculine. Hope it gets 1.6/ 1.5 (some rumors).

Bumped into a camouflaged Brezza today, it didn't have a presence like an ecosport or duster.
It is not getting the 1.6, I'm told.

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Originally Posted by ampere (Post 3869398)

Getz yes. But he has been driving a re-mapped Figo too. How does this compare against it. I thought he was planning to give away Figo as well?

Figo would stay.
Remapped Figo is pretty quick till about 80kph and handles like a go kart.

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Originally Posted by phamilyman (Post 3869428)

Why don't you do another thing? Wait for a month, maybe 45 days. You're not wrapping up 10k km by then, no? :)

Let this diesel ban and odd/even drama pan out. It is completely uncertain as of now, and has the potential to completely upend your new car buying plans. UNLESS you get a SCross/Duster etc which can be delivered within December (and avoids this uncertainty).

I don't mind waiting but would the tempting discounts stay till Jan ~ Feb 2016 ?

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Originally Posted by volkman10 (Post 3869484)

If you are still going ahead with a diesel then there is only one car I would recommend that is currently within your budget( stretched) - S Cross DDiS320.

Here is the current prices that is ongoing , quoting from the S Cross thread.

Thanks Volkman

Could you please share the dealer detail ?
I'm not getting this offer here.

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Originally Posted by Vik0728 (Post 3869817)

1. Polo 1.5 GT TDI - You are right kpzen and this has lost the charm/aggression of the 1.6 TDI. Though on paper they are inseparable, the real world performance is 'World's Apart'. Additionally, if you are looking at rear bench space & boot space, this is not the car for you. Expensive after sales and skeletal network is the final nail.

2. S-Cross DDIS 320 - When I first drove Getz, I was floored by the acceleration. The reason I picked by the 1.6 GT TDI is because this car gave me the exact feel when I TD it. Hands down, the DDIS 320 from S-Cross has even better feel if not the same as my GT. The build quality, space, features, safety, etc, you name it and this 'Maruti' has it all. This car just about offers everything that you need and then some.

With some serious discounts on hand for the S-Cross, IMO there is no other car that can tick your requirements in the market today.

Thanks Vik,
Valuable feedback !!

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Originally Posted by landcruiser123 (Post 3868982)

2. S Cross 1.3+Remap:
Here's what sudeepg says: (link: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3846239)

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Originally Posted by ampere (Post 3869361)

How about the 1.3 S-Cross remapped? He brings down his budget as well and at the same time gets a well built and well specce'd Maruti?

To my knowledge, 90BHP tune from the 1.3 DDIS is the max to have a good balance between performance and reliability.
Anything more, demands extreme pampering else reliability goes for a toss in the long term.

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Originally Posted by harry10 (Post 3869131)

I will say wait and watch right now. All this diesel ban and stupid rules need to be out before you make your purchase. My suggestion is don't buy the new car till Feb when it will be clear if diesel ban will stay or the fate of odd/even rule. In the meanwhile use your Figo for 80km per day usage and Getz for city use considering the weak clutch.

Running Getz till Feb is not an issue.
But, would the discounts last till Feb ?
Anyways, I hope Kejriwal doesn't play spoilsport.:Frustrati

kpzen -

I might sound blunt in certain of my statements but the inferences are drawn from the needs that you have listed.

So my hunch says -

1) You are looking at something that is less than a million.
2) You want sheer power with VFM offering.
3) As this is posted in What Car section and not 'Sedans' or 'Hatchbacks', you are open to both.

Keeping the above in mind, here are my preferences (pros and cons), with the best suited option coming up first -

1) Figo/Aspire -

i) If ABS is not mandated, the Trend would be 6.5 OTR, this is what you would have paid for the Getz in 2008, it has Airbags, Steering Mounted Controls and a host of other features which the Getz does not have. The point that I'm trying to nail is, in 2016 you are getting a 2008 priced car with the same power to weight and torque to weight ratios and added features. Getz was 1137 Kgs, 235 Nm and 110 PS (not BHP). A 2008 Swift Vxi was 4.5 OTR now it retails at 6 L odd, price have shot up over the years, but here over a gap of 8 years, you get a similar speced car with added features. It is sheer VFM.

ii) Coming to where you have stated that the built is not of the older Figo lineage, a 2000 Alto was better built than a 2015 Baleno. To keep the prices competitive, manufacturers have to cut the corners, lest they wanna run out of business. If you want ABS, Titanium with discounts is up for grabs at 7.4 OTR odd. To add to it, you have stated that the service on the Figo is cheaper than a Maruti.

iii) On the distance to service center, if you travel 80 Kms a day, 80 kms over a 6 month period on what you love should be HELL YESS, I wanna get it done in front of my eyes.

iv) On the narrow seats, you cannot get a 5 BHK for the price of 1, space, power, VFM all in one sounds good to the ears, does not look nice to the pocket.

v) You get 15+ KMPL.

2) Used - If you are open to - Pre Worshiped Polo 1.6 GT TDi

i) Looks
ii) 250 Nm
iii) Build, Handling, Features over Getz

3) Used - If you are open to - Pre Worshiped Chevrolet Cruze LT

i) Let us not think about obsolete models, Getz was obsolete in 2009.
ii) It overcomes the issue of narrow seats.
iii) A minimum of 327 Nm
iv) Might be less fuel efficient.

4) Used - If you are open to - Pre Worshiped TL/CL Jetta

i) Will give more luxury over Getz and 320 Nm
ii) Might be less fuel efficient.

5) SCross 1.6 Alpha @ 12L odd OTR.

Before I shall close, my personal request to you, let us not Demean or Loathe TATA, none of their models have been discontinued in less than a span of 5 years.

Agreed they have quality issues but till date they are true to the Indica tagline - "More Car per Car", right from Vista, Sumo, Safari and let us not miss the design that they had brought home in 95, the Sierra.

Happy Hunting.

Thanks Torquedo for the long post.

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