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Old 28th April 2019, 00:51   #16
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I was sailing in the same boat too, a month back. With my Linea @ 1,90,000 Kms and Jeep offering some tempting discounts on Compass, I was not very sure on whether I should wait for BS6 or go ahead with BS4 Compass/Harrier now.

But after discussing with few people, I went ahead with the Compass purchase.
Sorry being OT, but can you mention what discounts/ offers did you get with compass. BTW congrats for your new car.
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There is an Option4: Turn the conundrum in your favour. Buy a preowned BS4 at the cusp of the impending VI and benefit from the bulk of market upgrading to BS6. The choice basket must be better to choose from since many would be hastily upgrading.
Hi Vignesh, apologies for chiming in with a query of my own. Is it wise to buy an old used BS4 diesel at this time? Say a car which is 7-8 years old and already depreciated ~60%, or is it prudent to wait till nearer to the deadline?
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Old 28th April 2019, 16:25   #18
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Hi Vignesh, apologies for chiming in with a query of my own. Is it wise to buy an old used BS4 diesel at this time? Say a car which is 7-8 years old and already depreciated ~60%, or is it prudent to wait till nearer to the deadline?
Well, there's no denying that buying pre-owned makes the most FINANCIAL sense at any point of time.

The Bs6 coming would dent the resale of the large diesels we have now.The common consensus and sentiment might drive down diesel desirability in general across the board be it BS6/BS4. Given these facts, getting preowned (if you find a good clean example ) does make for a wiser decision since you are going in with a lesser cash input and hence lesser risk. The car might help you bridge the gap for the next few years over which things would settle down and better alternatives would be available in the new market.

If it's preloved route, it might not be necessary to wait till the very end and you could pick one up starting now whenever you find a clean example.
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Sorry being OT, but can you mention what discounts/ offers did you get with compass. BTW congrats for your new car.
I am not sure about the current month's discount. You can check the below post for the last month's discount,

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-...ml#post4561726
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Are Indian diesel cars going to need periodic DEF(Diesel Exhaust Fluid) refills to satisfy BS 6 norms?
This depends purely on engine design.
Some of the BS IV and BS V commercial vehicles also need DEF. Look carefully the Bharat Benz trucks which are BS V have a DPF tank on the RHS.
At the same time some engines are designed to run without DPF.
My market info is that DPF engines burn a lean mix during light loads and so are far more efficient. DPF is also very cheap, Fleet owners buy it at just above Rs 7000 for a 210 lit drum, small packing should be max 25% more.
Another thing is that if trucks run out of DPF they start running rich, and lock engine between 800RPM and 1700 RPM where as normal idle is 600 RPM, and lower gears can rev upto 2500rpm and higher ratios of 8/9 speed transmissions to 1500, 1700, 2000, 2300 RPM or whatever RPM corresponds to 80 kph in 8,7,6 and 5.
Behaviour should be similar for cars. main thing is they dont leave one stranded.



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Dears… Thanks for this thread and yeah boy, I have been having sleepless nights doing some tiring research to find a new car apt for an upgrade from a Santro xing in my family for the ladies. I have narrowed on two higher ends Diesels and they are Ford Ecosport and Maruti Brezza. The advantage on the Brezza Diesel due to the AMT option is the priority, but again am confused as the mighty DDIS 1.3 is at the end of production. Should I buy any of these or should I wait for the BS VI ? I request your valuable recommendations and advise.
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Dears… Thanks for this thread and yeah boy, I have been having sleepless nights doing some tiring research to find a new car apt for an upgrade from a Santro xing in my family for the ladies. I have narrowed on two higher ends Diesels and they are Ford Ecosport and Maruti Brezza. The advantage on the Brezza Diesel due to the AMT option is the priority, but again am confused as the mighty DDIS 1.3 is at the end of production. Should I buy any of these or should I wait for the BS VI ? I request your valuable recommendations and advise.
Missed to mention - the requirement of diesel with good mileage is because there would be a daily run of 70Kms plus few more now and then. Glanza petrol is also on the list but the dual jet Petrol was boring (not sure if the mild hybrid can assist), Automatic is preferred , but the CVT does not come with SVHS or Manual shift option
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Are Indian diesel cars going to need periodic DEF(Diesel Exhaust Fluid) refills to satisfy BS 6 norms?
While the AdBlue demand is projected to increase exponentially worldwide, I am not sure whether India is ready to implement a country wide distribution of it along with diesel fuel yet. IMO, unlikely in 2020 but may be little while later? But if this is not tackled, how come BS6 from 2020?

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