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Old 17th July 2022, 22:11   #16
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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Your Vento looks clean and by clean I mean, no dents and scrapes! Has it ever been repainted?
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Your Vento looks clean and by clean I mean, no dents and scrapes! Has it ever been repainted?
I would take this as a compliment.
No it has not been repainted yet.

Having said this, I was tempted to repaint it to the Ferrari Red once though, but kept it just as a thought. 😂
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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But Virtus 1.5 Petrol engine, a world class engine, provides 148 bhp keeping 250 NM torque, which is really massive. With just a press of the pedal, it zooms past any living or non living objects.
You need to drive to experience it.
Thanks. You input is helpful. I have startrd researching for my next car and this 1.5 tsi engine is on my radar, but I am still in two minds about DSG vs MT. Is the difference between DSG and MT is poles apart ot reasonably close?

My use case is mostly city driving in Delhi, but traffic is not as bad as Bangalore.
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Old 18th July 2022, 00:47   #19
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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Thanks. You input is helpful. I have startrd researching for my next car and this 1.5 tsi engine is on my radar, but I am still in two minds about DSG vs MT. Is the difference between DSG and MT is poles apart ot reasonably close?

My use case is mostly city driving in Delhi, but traffic is not as bad as Bangalore.
DSG is the smoothest of all gear boxes available.
You won't be able to know if there is a gear upshift or downshift. The intelligent gear box does all these required operations very smoothly.

Again an automatic vs manual transmission, this difference has to be observed only after you experience a drive with an automatic.

If you want an 1.5 TSI MT, Taigun/Kushaq have the variants at the moment.

So I would suggest you to do 3 test drives, Taigun 1.5 MT, Taigun 1.5 DSG, Virtus 1.5 GT DSG.

DSG is a very complex gear box though, and there are some cases of mechatronics failure of the gear box, which usually happens post 6 or 7 years. But you can't really time the failure.

MT is an ageless gearbox, low on maintenance, relatively lower on fuel consumption but high on efforts in a day to day city traffic.

An automatic or DSG makes the life easier by 40% in a bumper to bumper traffic and 30% on the highways. (My estimates).

So you may take the test drives and experience the effect yourself.

Disclaimer: For a first timer, the DSG experience is nothing short of a magic.
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

I don’t see any reason for you to change Vento. As others mentioned VAG TDI is a gem of an engine and you don’t get it now. You car is very well maintained, has been trouble free and moreover you totally like it. You are not fully convinced with both the new options. So why change?
The parts availability will not be a challenge, since Vento is based on Polo platform largely. Infact for VAG, the good independent garages are able to source parts easily and faster than OEMs.

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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

The only reason you're enamored by the Virtus is because of that engine.Understandable.

But beyond that, you're going to feel short changed from your own description and from your gut feeling.

Consideing the fact that DSG's will eventually fail, any reason why you don't want to try a pre-owned Octavia? I'm pretty sure there will be a few nearly new options in the market.
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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DSG is the smoothest of all gear boxes available.
You won't be able to know if there is a gear upshift or downshift. The intelligent gear box does all these required operations very smoothly.
Early days my friend.

If you keep this car , you are worried that it would make you poor eventually and if you buy another VW - you are looking at the same confusion after 5 years. Perhaps time to look elsewhere for your next vehicle.

I think you can keep your vehicle for a few more years, gather enough funds for an even better upgrade.
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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Amidst of so many new car launches, an enthusiastic car owner is bound to get confused when he /she thinks of buying/upgrading a new car.

I am also going through the same turmoil since some time now.

With my Vento TDI-DSG, I have completed a happy 55k in last 5 years with very minimal niggles.
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IMO,55k KMs is too less to replace a good car like Vento,unless parts and service is a problem. I would drive it for another 2 years, pile up some more miles and then go for an electric car. Hopefully, our infrastructure would have improved by then.

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3. Going forward the resale of Diesels specifically Diesel autos will go crazy. Lack of options in the new car market will make sure this happens. Vento has a decent demand in the pre-owned market.
Can you elaborate this point? I did not get whether it will be good or bad having a diesel car.
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Feelings are mutual. Attached some photos of the blue beast. ��
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Wow, your beast seems to be very-well maintained
Now, I really must say you shouldn't part with it for atleast 2 more years

Since this is a deja vu thread for me, hope it is ok if I share 2-3 pics of my own Vento.
At the 55,000 km mark (like yours now), back in Nov'18:-

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With the fuel efficiency reflecting the good health of the diesel engine underneath:-

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And finally, when my Vento sunset couple of months ago:

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Them nice machines, a rarity these days.

Enjoy your ride and keep us updated with more pictures along the way!
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Old 18th July 2022, 23:06   #25
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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I don’t see any reason for you to change Vento. As others mentioned VAG TDI is a gem of an engine and you don’t get it now. You car is very well maintained, has been trouble free and moreover you totally like it. You are not fully convinced with both the new options. So why change?
The parts availability will not be a challenge, since Vento is based on Polo platform largely. Infact for VAG, the good independent garages are able to source parts easily and faster than OEMs.
Thank you for your suggestions.
As the available options from VW are not really the real upgrades, Convincing self over the Vento is getting difficult.
Nevertheless, I would need to find some independent garages in bangalore, as I am completely reliant on the VW Service Center till now.

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The only reason you're enamored by the Virtus is because of that engine.Understandable.

But beyond that, you're going to feel short changed from your own description and from your gut feeling.

Consideing the fact that DSG's will eventually fail, any reason why you don't want to try a pre-owned Octavia? I'm pretty sure there will be a few nearly new options in the market.
Ah, as I read your comment I saw the Octavia while I was on a Traffic Signal.
Sheer co-incidence, but what an ageless beauty.
The old Octavia had its horror stories though. The new one, can definitely explore, but not looking for the pre-owned at this point. Thank you for the suggestions.

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Early days my friend.

If you keep this car , you are worried that it would make you poor eventually and if you buy another VW - you are looking at the same confusion after 5 years. Perhaps time to look elsewhere for your next vehicle.

I think you can keep your vehicle for a few more years, gather enough funds for an even better upgrade.
You are partly right. I think any complex things which makes life easier, needs higher maintenance at the older days. You can curse the higher maintenance part, but have to appreciate the beauty, ease and sheer driving pleasure the DSG provides.

I would agree with your suggestion to continue with the Vento for a couple of more years, gather more funds and go for my dream car.

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IMO,55k KMs is too less to replace a good car like Vento,unless parts and service is a problem. I would drive it for another 2 years, pile up some more miles and then go for an electric car. Hopefully, our infrastructure would have improved by then.
Electric is the future, but to satisfy my long drive appetites, a sheer electric motor wont be able to satisfy the needs. Either I have to go with a Hybrid or keep 2 cars, electric being the city car.

I am now convincing myself to keep the Vento with me for a couple of more years. Thank you Ajay.


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Can you elaborate this point? I did not get whether it will be good or bad having a diesel car.
I think he is anticipating the demand of the older diesel cars (vintage cars ) would gain some market demand in the days to come, so it might be a good idea to keep the vehicle.

We will leave it only for time to depict the stories.
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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Wow, your beast seems to be very-well maintained
Now, I really must say you shouldn't part with it for atleast 2 more years
Thank you Josh.
I believe, if you had parked your car and wouldn't turn back to appreciate its beauty, then you have chosen a wrong car. And a maintained car enhances the vibes.

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Since this is a deja vu thread for me, hope it is ok if I share 2-3 pics of my own Vento.
At the 55,000 km mark (like yours now), back in Nov'18:-

With the fuel efficiency reflecting the good health of the diesel engine underneath:-

And finally, when my Vento sunset couple of months ago:
Ah, you had a very well maintained beast as well.
Lovely photos, thank you for sharing the memories.
BTW, at 55k mark, coincidently, I had the same Fuel Average Figure.
I hit the mark during a rainy afternoon, while negotiating my way from Pune to Bangalore. Sorry, couldn't capture the pic though.

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Them nice machines, a rarity these days.

Enjoy your ride and keep us updated with more pictures along the way!
Absolutely.
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Nevertheless, I would need to find some independent garages in bangalore, as I am completely reliant on the VW Service Center till now.
My experience with Engineering Exponent in ITPL has been great for Octavia. Now I mostly give it there.
Other possible options are Thrust Automotives (Kalyan Nagar), Carsmith Motors (near HSR), Bay 6 (near Sarjapur Road) etc. They are good with VAGs, heard good feedback from friends but don’t have any personal experience.
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

Let me tell you one thing. VW do not make cars how they use to for India. Virtus maybe a successor to the Vento but quality wise the Vento is far superior.

Also though you are not driving that much, considering 55k in 5years, the petrol economy will surely shock you initially. I am in a similar situation like you. I have an Ameo 1.5 TDi DSG and have an itch to upgrade. I get 13 kmpl in the city which goes all the way to 18-19 kmpl on the highway and this is without me putting an effort to drive economically. Expect 7-8 kmpl in the city and 12-13 on the highway with Virtus petrol 1.5 DSG TSi.

You mentioned you are on a budget constraint right now, in that case use your Vento for 2-3 years more, save for a proper upgrade like an Octavia. In case a DSG issue does crop up, it is 1.5 lacs to repair compared to spending 20.xx lacs for a similar vehicle you are using right now and will have to use for the next 5-7 years.

Cheers!
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Re: Whether to upgrade or to not - Confusion of a VW Vento TDI DSG owner

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[*] The recent DSG story of a friend - He had ran out of warranty of his Ameo and then he had a mechatronics failure that made him cough up around 1.45 lakhs.

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This is shocking to hear since not many DSG failures were heard of in Ameo. Did your friend not have an extended/addon warranty? Otherwise, could have requested for a goodwill replacement of the mechatronics unit assuming the warranty would have expired only recently.
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With my Vento TDI-DSG, I have completed a happy 55k in last 5 years with very minimal niggles.
So, if I say, I am madly in love with the car, I won't be wrong.

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Keep it ! be loyal to your love , and wait for a proper upgrade
Vento is a really amazing car and 5 years / 55K is nothing

Also, Virtus / Taigun is not an upgrade from Vento, for the GT versions you will be paying 22L for that kind of money I will add 10 more and get Octavia which is a proper upgrade
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