[Surviving Brain]

Originally Posted by ghodlur

T-jet on other hand - may not be that fun to drive but still has been a refresher from Fiat with all bells and whistles.

I'm very much surprised to see such a comment! I do wonder what made you say that Linea T-Jet is less fun to drive when contrasted with Vento D!

Fiat Linea T-Jet, being a petrol has a wide a wide rev range. Moreover when we take the handling and road stability(for which Fiat is known for) into consideration, wouldn't Linea T-Jet be more fun to drive than the Vento D?

Moreover petrol - high fuel/low maintenance costs. You need to make a choice which suits you.

Yes, I agree with you here.

BTW why haven't you considered Fiesta 1.6 S, I am sure you will suprisingly find it more enthusiastic to drive or are you one of those Ford apprehensive lot.

I would not recommend you to buy the current generation Fiesta as there are speculations about an all new Ford Fiesta! But then, I love Fiesta 1.6 for it's performance.

[nkrishnap]

Another aspect to be considered is that VW does not provide any free services. The cost per service might be higher in VW.

Do give it a thorough thought and decide. Happy choosing.

[BurningHeart]

If you have 10L to spare and then you want to sell in 4 years, your safe bet is ANHC. May be you should see if your family likes it in comparison to Linea and then decide accordingly.

BH

[manishvaid]

ANHC was my first choice because of its looks & resale value, but when we took test drive of ANHC, Linea & Vento on the same roads, found that ANHC's body is very light and we could feel smallest of the potholes and even the small gap on cemented roads. So we decided to go for heavier body & superior suspensions.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by surd_biker

@GTO: How would you compare the engine refinement of both these cars? I've heard the TDi is a bit noisy.

Neither is the master of refinement. Both are acceptable for their respective diets (petrol & diesel), and neither likes high rpms.

Originally Posted by ghodlur

BTW why haven't you considered Fiesta 1.6 S

1.6S is long in the tooth now. It's too expensive (discounts are lesser on this variant than the regular 1.6) and interiors too are cramped by current C segment standards.

Originally Posted by nkrishnap

The cost per service might be higher in VW.

More than made up by the cost per km (i.e. diesel) advantage. In terms of ownership over 5 - 7 years, a Vento diesel will work out way cheaper than any petrol (including the T-Jet) sedan. Not only does the Vento sip cheaper fuel, it'll also give more kpl per liter.

[SPARKled]

What is the reason for not considering the linea diesel. It has a pretty good mid range grunt and is as frugal if not more to run than the Vento. There are also good discounts on offer with a 2+2 years warranty. Its much cheaper than the Vento.

[Speed Pujari]

Seeing the amount of mileage in a month you'd be covering, the D is the answer since you get the power as well as FE.

Jet should be kept in a seperate category. But since you are planning to sell the car in say 4 years then Jet with extended warranty is the answer.

Fiat resale is a myth I believe. My 2003 Palio 1.2 ELX got a last offer of 1.8L max before I withdrew (people think it cannot fetch more than 90k).

Plus it is a very advance stage to comment about the VW resale value either. Do not forget the skoda poor resales.

Also its a wide known fact now that the price of Fiat spares has gone down drastically.
I chose the Jet over the D due to better customer service by Fiat and of course tons of loaded features and driving pleasure.
I did not like the puny shape of D and the in-cabin noise. VW aftersales stories picking up these days was also a matter of worry for me.

To keep you informed the FE is not impressive in Jet, it was secondary to me anyways. You may have to set your priorities here.

Choice is yours. I somehow found the Jet to be more roomy than the D and has a way better road presence.

But again if you want to stay away from A.S.S headaches etc. go ahead with the ANHC. Better resale, better FE.

[freewheeler]

Originally Posted by SPARKled

What is the reason for not considering the linea diesel. It has a pretty good mid range grunt and is as frugal if not more to run than the Vento. There are also good discounts on offer with a 2+2 years warranty. Its much cheaper than the Vento.

Yeah, why not the Linea MJD? Agreed, the Vento has a more powerful engine, but the Linea does cover up in other areas like ride & handling and features. And believe me the power ain't that bad either.
The OTR for the Vento is about 1L greater than the Linea MJD, not to mention the waiting period, and yet to be seen/experienced A$$ . Linea on the other hand has been here for a while, FIAT does seem to be going all out to satisfy its customers and it is showing in some top rated surveys in the country.
Very very few owners on the forum seem to unhappy with their Fiats.
So yes why not the Linea MJD?

[oxyzen]

Originally Posted by freewheeler

Yeah, why not the Linea MJD? Agreed, the Vento has a more powerful engine, but the Linea does cover up in other areas like ride & handling and features. And believe me the power ain't that bad either.

When it comes to torque no one beats the VentoD. Comparing it with Linea MJD is pure injustice. Agreed Linea Diesel is not bad. Its is about average. But as a matter of fact I am yet to find a diesel car more sluggish than Linea. Anyway what are you expecting in a tank like car with a 1.3L diesel.
I am not sure if you guys have driven VentoD. In case you havent I suggest you to get your hands on her. Torque in all gears are insane. The car is a rocket. Turbo lag is minimal. Stay above 1500Rpm and there is no lag. I floored the throttle at 50 in 4th gear. The car went berserk. It had a feeling like it got bitten by a mad dog. Or it got hit by a rocket in the Butt.Even in 5th it accelerates like hell.
Now why am I suggesting the Vento here. Its just for the engine and gearbox alone.
1) Turbo lag is minimal
2) Midrange is truely punchy.
3) Quite free revving for a diesel
4) Transmission is slick. Awesome.

Linea definately looks better but Vento sure is no eyesore.
Ride and handling of Linea is too good. But Vento is lagging by much.
And as far as service is concerned I think you will have to take a chance. VW reliability so far hasn't been the best but this car is worth taking the risk.

[channelv]

Originally Posted by oxyzen

I floored the throttle at 50 in 4th gear. The car went berserk. It had a feeling like it got bitten by a mad dog. Or it got hit by a rocket in the Butt.Even in 5th it accelerates like hell.

Sounds more like a car with bad handling.

Choosing between Vento vs T-Jet is a classic example of head vs heart decision making. They both have their own pros and cons. But I would have gone for the T-Jet if not for its running cost.
T-Jet is more fun to drive, better handler and good ride quality.
But Vento has superb torque and pretty much feels like what Oxyzen described. And Vento also have good handling/ride if you compare with other vehicles(Not Linea). Vento built quality and sturdiness is also unquestionable.
What Vento loses out to T-Jet would be in creature comforts which VW cannot be totally blamed as they have cars in higher segments (Jetta) and buyers of those costlier vehicles should feel the cost increase is justifiable. Vento's road presence is also nowhere close to Linea or even ANHC.

I do not understand the logic of those people who put Vento's pro's as brand name, resale value and service. The same thing had happened when Skoda Octavia was launched, people just presumed on the same lines as Vento.
For me, A known devil is way better than an unknown angel.

Wonder when Fiat would launch their 1.6D, then Linea would be a better match with Vento's awesome efficiency and running cost.

[bluevolt]

Since your running is limited i would sugest you to go for linea T jet. i would be an fine choice for you. I guess the vento diesel will also have more waiting than linea.

[vcx]

My take is If you want Diesel car and have 10-11Lacs go for Vento

If Petrol from among the choice then it would be T-Jet, but I were to compare Vento with Linea, Vento's Engine scroes high.

Agree Linea has better gadgets than Vento .On the overall package Vento make sense for the amount spent.

Runs on cheaper fuel, more miles per litre, higher CC near to next sgement( Jetta has the same CC engine, more than Corolla 1.4D), Quality of fit and finish is way better than Linea.

On Service I am not sure of Linea with Incida/Indigo guys handling it( no offense pls), but with VW you are getting it from VW.

The Auto market is getting hotter and VW will surely do good job if not the best for ensuring customers are happy, its not even 1 year now Vento is out on roads.

End of the day if pertol works, Line T-Jet is good choice, Diesel sure be Vento.

All the best!

[oxyzen]

Had a back to back test drive of VentoD and Linea T-Jet.
My god what a feeling!!

Performance wise Vento wins hands down. Yes hands down. Dont get me wrong, T-Jet is a very able performer but the Vento is just out of everyone's class.
Lets get 1 thing straight. Vento has 250 Nm against Linea's 207Nm. Vento weighs 1190 whereas the Linea T-Jet weighs 1230. So when it comes to torque to weight ratio Vento outclasses everybody including T-Jet. (210 to 168) Nm/tonne. On the road it really feels that way. Or may be even more. The Vento pulls stronger, Much much stronger. And with the instant response it is incredibly fun.
But dont write off T-Jet yet. It may not pull that hard but it definately pulls longer. Thanks to the extra 1000 revs it got. Refinement levels are definately better, A typical petrol vs diesel. On the performance front I will rate T-Jet excellent but Vento is just mind blowing. It is exceptional.

Not much to choose in the ride and handling department. None of them showed any signs of nervousness on the open straights. Sudden lane changes were very confident. On completely broken roads, Vento felt marginally better. 15" vs 16" maybe? Nothing more could I judge in this aspect.

I am not going to elaborate on steering feedback but here is a small incident. On an extremely broken patch I put my hands off the steering wheel, and the linea's steering started dancing vigorously. Is it an indication of good steering feedback? I think yes. On the Vento the movements were somewhat 20%. No wonder it gives no feedback at high speeds.

As for T-Jet there are only a handful of advantages and even an enthusiast may choose VentoD over Linea considering the overall package.

T-Jet
1) Extra 1000 RPM
2) Great steering feedback
3) Royal Looks
4) Slightly better grip and handling

VentoD
1) Fantastic pulling power is the reason enough
2) Diesel economy
3) VW badge
4) Better fit and finish
5) Space utilization
6) Smooth gearshift
7) Better ergonomics

[kevintomin]

Good comparison Oxygen.

As GTO rightly pointed out about Vento Diesel -'you can not only have the cake but also enjoy it'.

Fiat desperately needs 1.6 multijet to fight Vento Diesel.

[prkothan]

I am trying to do honest comparison between Fiat Line T Jet and Vento Diesel. Since I haven't got chance to drive Vento (already driven TJet) I would like to compare only the seats comfort level.

Linea TJET rear seat comfort is far far ahead of Vento. Only ppl with 6ft and want to sit upright throught the drive !! may have some comfort issues in sitting in rear seat (which is very rare). But for average height ppl rear seat comfort is far better than Honda City and Vento.