Toyota's next car

theMAG · 28th December 2006, 11:25

According to today's Economic Times- Bangalore ed., the next car from Toyota India will most certainly be the Vios; with the Vios originally developed specifically for SE Asian markets. This car currently is available internationally with a 1.5L diesel engine as well. The report goes on to say that the Vios will be the ideal car from Toyota to compete against the C-segment, below the Corolla. The Fortuner SUV is "of no longer immediate priority" by Toyota India.

My concern is such cars are going to be sold well past their sell-by date, owing to their later launches here, and especially since a newer version would ostensibly be internationally available in another 2-3 years.

mclarenracer · 28th December 2006, 14:26

well this won't be the first time India gets a car well past its sell-by date. below corolla puts it against Verna, swift and fiesta,if i am right.

maybe they will rush it in for few years and update this car and corolla at the same time in 2-3 years time. till that time try selling leftovers.

rahul_intlad · 2nd January 2007, 14:40

The new vios is really speaking not that old that we can call it some sort of a leftover.

From what I have heard the Vios is more of a drivers car than the NHC[no direct experience so far].It should give good competetion to the NHC and thats where we should have some fun.

ajmat · 2nd January 2007, 14:43

What Rahul says in indeed true - the Vios is quite attractive,, even more so than the Corolla IMHO

CrAzY dRiVeR · 2nd January 2007, 14:55

The problem is going to be pricing it right...

Toyota has considered vios before also... But found the pricing to be hard to meet... its going to be more expensive than the City...

Its going to have to be priced very near to the corolla, which could hurt the already-down corolla much much more...

anyway, some pics of the 2006 face lifted vios...

theMAG · 2nd January 2007, 14:58

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Originally Posted by ajmat

the Vios is quite attractive,, even more so than the Corolla IMHO

Definitely - it looks like the leaner meaner version of the Corolla. And its 1.5L DOHC VVT engine does 110 bhp - much more than the Indian NHC's VTEC.

But, my original concern is towards its Indian shelf life - which might be quite extended owing to its later launch here, a.k.a Skoda Octavia

Equus · 2nd January 2007, 17:02

I dont like the rear much but its not bad looking at all!!
8.6L onwards is Corolla territory, so it would need alteast 50K below. And Toyota typically have many variants!! We might be in for starters at about 6.5L which is incredible!!

CrAzY dRiVeR · 2nd January 2007, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Equus

I dont like the rear much but its not bad looking at all!!

Rear reminds me of the OHC...

I hope it is fun to drive like the OHC...

Samurai · 2nd January 2007, 18:18

Now that's a real handsome looking car, haven't seen one in a long time in C segment, not since Lancer was released.

If it also has the bite to go with the muscular look, it will be really hot, I mean it will be irresistable.

superavi · 2nd January 2007, 18:31

The car looks like a cousin of the Aveo for me.

Superavi

Rudra Sen · 2nd January 2007, 20:32

The problem is most of these so called new cars look the same.

Vid6639 · 2nd January 2007, 20:35

This cars got understated looks. but not the dash. it has the funky centre dash dials. looks pretty cool.

I think this is a good car to get here. If it's competing with the city in other markets why cant they match the cost here.

Mpower · 2nd January 2007, 20:36

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The problem is going to be pricing it right...
Toyota has considered vios before also... But found the pricing to be hard to meet... its going to be more expensive than the City...
Its going to have to be priced very near to the corolla, which could hurt the already-down corolla much much more...

they go head to head everywhere in SE Asia. I dont see why India should be different. The only item that is more complex is the engine with 16V and VVTi, but then its Toyota's policy to have them on all petrol engines.

rahul_intlad · 2nd January 2007, 20:48

Toyota pakistan has a 1.3L EFI Toyota corolla[16V],present in vios in philippines.Hopefully toyota is not considering this engine for India in the name of cost cutting.

The 1.5L vvti petrol is the universal engine but have not heard of the 1.5 L diesel any info available in this regard.

Ps: Pakistan also has a 2.0L diesel corolla and the 1.8L petrol vvti corolla.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 2nd January 2007, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Mpower

they go head to head everywhere in SE Asia. I dont see why India should be different. The only item that is more complex is the engine with 16V and VVTi, but then its Toyota's policy to have them on all petrol engines.

16V and VVTi should make it head on competition with the NHC Vtec right???

28th December 2006, 11:25	#1
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,196 Thanked: 1,823 Times View My Garage	Toyota's next car According to today's Economic Times- Bangalore ed., the next car from Toyota India will most certainly be the Vios; with the Vios originally developed specifically for SE Asian markets. This car currently is available internationally with a 1.5L diesel engine as well. The report goes on to say that the Vios will be the ideal car from Toyota to compete against the C-segment, below the Corolla. The Fortuner SUV is "of no longer immediate priority" by Toyota India. My concern is such cars are going to be sold well past their sell-by date, owing to their later launches here, and especially since a newer version would ostensibly be internationally available in another 2-3 years.
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mclarenracer BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 115 Thanked: 11 Times	well this won't be the first time India gets a car well past its sell-by date. below corolla puts it against Verna, swift and fiesta,if i am right. maybe they will rush it in for few years and update this car and corolla at the same time in 2-3 years time. till that time try selling leftovers.
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2nd January 2007, 14:40	#3
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 5 Times	The new vios is really speaking not that old that we can call it some sort of a leftover. From what I have heard the Vios is more of a drivers car than the NHC[no direct experience so far].It should give good competetion to the NHC and thats where we should have some fun.
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2nd January 2007, 14:43	#4
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,216 Thanked: 31,656 Times View My Garage	What Rahul says in indeed true - the Vios is quite attractive,, even more so than the Corolla IMHO
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2nd January 2007, 14:55	#5
CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 18,045 Thanked: 79,163 Times View My Garage	The problem is going to be pricing it right... Toyota has considered vios before also... But found the pricing to be hard to meet... its going to be more expensive than the City... Its going to have to be priced very near to the corolla, which could hurt the already-down corolla much much more... anyway, some pics of the 2006 face lifted vios...
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2nd January 2007, 17:02	#7
Equus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 424 Times	I dont like the rear much but its not bad looking at all!! 8.6L onwards is Corolla territory, so it would need alteast 50K below. And Toyota typically have many variants!! We might be in for starters at about 6.5L which is incredible!!
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Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 26,015 Thanked: 50,169 Times View My Garage	Now that's a real handsome looking car, haven't seen one in a long time in C segment, not since Lancer was released. If it also has the bite to go with the muscular look, it will be really hot, I mean it will be irresistable.
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superavi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 286 Thanked: 29 Times	The car looks like a cousin of the Aveo for me. Superavi
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Rudra Sen Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,766 Thanked: 6,886 Times View My Garage	The problem is most of these so called new cars look the same.
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Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,693 Thanked: 44,183 Times View My Garage	This cars got understated looks. but not the dash. it has the funky centre dash dials. looks pretty cool. I think this is a good car to get here. If it's competing with the city in other markets why cant they match the cost here.
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2nd January 2007, 20:48	#14
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 5 Times	Toyota pakistan has a 1.3L EFI Toyota corolla[16V],present in vios in philippines.Hopefully toyota is not considering this engine for India in the name of cost cutting. The 1.5L vvti petrol is the universal engine but have not heard of the 1.5 L diesel any info available in this regard. Ps: Pakistan also has a 2.0L diesel corolla and the 1.8L petrol vvti corolla. Last edited by rahul_intlad : 2nd January 2007 at 21:08.
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