Maruti losing the DDIS for Dzire? - Is it true?

arunk · 11th October 2008, 22:58

Heard unconfirmed reports that Maruti will not be given DDIS engines as they fitted them in to the Dzire which they werent supposed to. If that happens that could be a trouble for them. Has any one heard this bit?

abhinav.gupta88 · 11th October 2008, 23:11

Hun , how come.

That will be seriously bad news for prospective dzire ddis buyers . And it may mean maruti loose a good amount of the dzire sales , people would rather prefer swift diesel in that case.

blue_pulsar · 11th October 2008, 23:11

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Originally Posted by arunk

Heard unconfirmed reports that Maruti will not be given DDIS engines as they fitted them in to the Dzire which they werent supposed to. If that happens that could be a trouble for them. Has any one heard this bit?

Isn't Maruti manufacturing these engines themselves with Bosch help? Also, who will not give?

aaggoswami · 11th October 2008, 23:15

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Originally Posted by arunk

Heard unconfirmed reports that Maruti will not be given DDIS engines as they fitted them in to the Dzire which they werent supposed to. If that happens that could be a trouble for them. Has any one heard this bit?

What does the under lined part mean. They fitted them into Dzire which they werent supposed to.

1) Suzuki is producing this engine under license, so they can put it in any car they want.

2) Swift and Swift Dzire are using the same engine, so what is really the matter ?

3) Is it that the tuning of engine is different in Dzire and Swift hatch ? I dont think so, specially for the diesel. If engine tuning is different then it can cause some trouble, but again not a major one.

arunk · 11th October 2008, 23:19

I am not really aware of the jargon but I heard it from a maruti dealer himself and so thought might ask you guys if this can be true! It may well be just a nothing statement going by what aagoswami is telling us

blue_pulsar · 11th October 2008, 23:25

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Originally Posted by arunk

I am not really aware of the jargon but I heard it from a maruti dealer himself and so thought might ask you guys if this can be true! It may well be just a nothing statement going by what aagoswami is telling us

Might just be to push SX4 sales. Or Dzire petrol sales.

fx45 · 11th October 2008, 23:42

i hope this doesnt happen, will be a minor setback for maruti as they have already made enough money and maybe doubled or tripled the expected sales for the swift twins.

Maruti may go for some newer vendor for a Diesel engine, maybe a NIssan? what say guys?

ankit.jhamb · 12th October 2008, 00:01

the thread says maruti will not be ""given ddis"",since ddis is common in both swift and dzire,will it be for both

normally_crazy · 12th October 2008, 00:06

Nothing of the sort will happen. The Dzire will continue with the DDIS engines.

phamilyman · 12th October 2008, 00:14

Just useless rumors.

and nice thread - it'll push more last minute bookings for the dZire

speedzak · 12th October 2008, 01:02

Baseless rumours which has been doing rounds from the last 2months or more.

I contacted many good friends in Maruti and Tata. There was no truth whatsoever.

frankmehta · 12th October 2008, 01:42

maruti is not a buffoon that they would just start producing cars without a backing. also, who would deny maruti the engines that they themselves are producing. very bad paanwaala rumours boss.

Eddy · 12th October 2008, 01:48

Plain rumours.

I think this thread needs to be locked, unless there is some absolutely concrete info.

4x4addict · 12th October 2008, 08:23

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Originally Posted by normally_crazy

Nothing of the sort will happen. The Dzire will continue with the DDIS engines.

I agree.

This is utter nonsense. Dealer is probably trying to push the petrol variant due to the waiting period of the diesel variants.

marlinspike · 12th October 2008, 09:00

With waiting periods of six months that is always extended further they need to jack up production rather than stop producing Diesel DZire. It would be nice infact if they were held up by GM-Fiat or whoever they have the tech tie up to produce it for the DZire. Then Maruti will end up producing less of the ugly duckling Dzire and actually take up booking for hatch Swift but that ain't gonna happen.

I have to agree with 4X4addict that its a dealer trying to close a deal sooner.

11th October 2008, 22:58	#1
arunk BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: kochi Posts: 108 Thanked: 0 Times	Maruti losing the DDIS for Dzire? - Is it true? Heard unconfirmed reports that Maruti will not be given DDIS engines as they fitted them in to the Dzire which they werent supposed to. If that happens that could be a trouble for them. Has any one heard this bit?
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11th October 2008, 23:11	#2
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,090 Thanked: 341 Times View My Garage	Hun , how come. That will be seriously bad news for prospective dzire ddis buyers . And it may mean maruti loose a good amount of the dzire sales , people would rather prefer swift diesel in that case.
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11th October 2008, 23:19	#5
arunk BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: kochi Posts: 108 Thanked: 0 Times	I am not really aware of the jargon but I heard it from a maruti dealer himself and so thought might ask you guys if this can be true! It may well be just a nothing statement going by what aagoswami is telling us
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11th October 2008, 23:42	#7
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 386 Times	i hope this doesnt happen, will be a minor setback for maruti as they have already made enough money and maybe doubled or tripled the expected sales for the swift twins. Maruti may go for some newer vendor for a Diesel engine, maybe a NIssan? what say guys?
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12th October 2008, 00:01	#8
ankit.jhamb BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: new delhi Posts: 573 Thanked: Once	the thread says maruti will not be ""given ddis"",since ddis is common in both swift and dzire,will it be for both
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12th October 2008, 00:06	#9
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,305 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Nothing of the sort will happen. The Dzire will continue with the DDIS engines.
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12th October 2008, 00:14	#10
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,675 Times	Just useless rumors. and nice thread - it'll push more last minute bookings for the dZire
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12th October 2008, 01:02	#11
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,346 Thanked: 29 Times	Baseless rumours which has been doing rounds from the last 2months or more. I contacted many good friends in Maruti and Tata. There was no truth whatsoever.
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12th October 2008, 01:42	#12
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,030 Thanked: 3,669 Times View My Garage	maruti is not a buffoon that they would just start producing cars without a backing. also, who would deny maruti the engines that they themselves are producing. very bad paanwaala rumours boss.
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12th October 2008, 01:48	#13
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,582 Thanked: 14,608 Times	Plain rumours. I think this thread needs to be locked, unless there is some absolutely concrete info.
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12th October 2008, 09:00	#15
marlinspike BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 193 Thanked: 3 Times	With waiting periods of six months that is always extended further they need to jack up production rather than stop producing Diesel DZire. It would be nice infact if they were held up by GM-Fiat or whoever they have the tech tie up to produce it for the DZire. Then Maruti will end up producing less of the ugly duckling Dzire and actually take up booking for hatch Swift but that ain't gonna happen. I have to agree with 4X4addict that its a dealer trying to close a deal sooner.
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