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Old 28th September 2016, 19:02   #61
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I would really like to get in contact with you and discuss regarding the same whenever you're free. Expecting a pm from you with your contact details? (sorry for the trouble)

Yes we are put up at Kochi and would be happy to join your Volvo club if everything goes well
Looks like I can't PM you either. I have requested this to the Admins.
You seem to be just 14 posts to graduate from newbie. So get busy. Plenty of interesting threads in here.

Meanwhile could you please update your email in your profile.

Wish you luck
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SIX YEARS UPDATE, SIXTH SERVICE @ 42000KM

The experience so far

This year in April, it will be six years since the S60 entered my life. Its been quite a while since I've come to this thread too. I see my last post was in September 2016. Not that I wasn't peeking in and visiting other threads, posting comments when I felt like it. However, it had been a busy year and I had to make some changes and shift my practice. Now, as I've moved to a new workplace, I've got more time till things settle down.

Kochi traffic is now what Bangalore traffic was 10 years ago, albeit with smaller roads. The Kochi Metro rail works going on, only add to the misery. But with work nearing completion, things seem to be smoothing up.

I get to drive 5km up and down twice daily in this 'wonderful' Kochi traffic. Not a pleasant thing to do. Especially if you are in a hurry. But I do get to spend some 'zen' time in the car listening to music, as the city buses, cars and bikes pass by horns blaring.
Also, the city safety systems are tested very regularly (almost once a week), what with inadvertent darting from cars and bikes with the occasional suicidal pedestrian to liven things up. But with the music on inside, the car does such a wonderful job isolating the chaos outside that you don't feel stressed. That is, until someone makes contact with your vehicle.

ORVM
On a couple of occasions the ORVMs have taken a good impact from bike riders, taxis and even a pedestrian who suddenly decided to gesture with his hand outstretched into traffic.
The left ORVM took a bad hit couple of months back, dislocating the ORVM cover and its clamps. Fortunately it did not damage the motors and indicator lights. The financial damage? Rs.14,000/- for the mirror case and painting + labour. Ouch! I don't want to know any time soon how much the whole assembly costs. An extra digit more perhaps.

Alternator belt
With more time on hand, I was fortunate to make two trips with my family. One was to Kodaikanal. It has been nearly three decades since I had been there and I was skeptical of the road conditions for this car. However I was reassured by the hotelier and friends. I was quite surprised by the road conditions and except for a few bad patches, the entire journey from Kochi to Kodai was smooth and stress free.
The second was to Wayanad. Here too, I was surprised at the road conditions. I stayed at a resort called Vythiri Village Resort (highly recommended). The roads were good all the way up to the resort. Something I cannot even imagine not so long ago. I think the relatively scanty rains last year contributed to this.
Although the stay at the resort was fun an all, unbeknownst to me, a rat had tried to get into the car at the resort parking lot. Possibly the smell of the biscuit crumbs in the back seat had become tempting for him. Although obviously he (or she) couldn't get in, he had made a small meal of the alternator belt.
I was lucky to reach back home without any glitches. Two days after we arrived, one morning, the engine cranked funny. And as I started driving, I get a desperate "charging failure" message on the MID. The engine also starts knocking and lurching.

Volvo S60 D5: 4 year / 25000 kms Ownership Review-charging-failure.jpg

Luckily, the Volvo service center had recently relocated close by and I was able to limp to the service center. Any further and it might have had to be towed. At the service center our service adviser Mr Eldho was around. He is who we call the "resident car doc" in our group. He made me shut down the engine immediately and pulled out to show me a chewed and torn up alternator belt. Images of my family stranded on the Wayanad ghats flashed in my head. I thank God for that not happening.
The car was pushed into the service bay, the belt replaced and battery charged. Fortunately it had not fully drained and possibly the belt must have started loosing tension only the previous day.
A glitch in reassembly of the alternator system however delayed delivery that day. Cost - Rs. 4500/-
The new Volvo service and dealership is fortunately continuing in the same customer centric philosophy of it's predecessor.

I always carry a carvac inside the car. I should remember not to forget to use it during such journeys in future.

Tyres
The side wall of the front right tyre developed a small peeling after the Kodai trip. As there was no air leak and I had no long trips planned soon,I switched the tyre to the rear and planned to change it along with the other tyres which was probably another 4000 to 5000km later. However the peel progressed to the condition as below:

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As it was not safe to proceed like this I decided to change just one tyre for now. However the 225/45 profile Michelin tyres were not apparently available in the Indian market. I was told they had stopped importing due to lack of demand. Outsourcing and importing was not cost effective. New Bharath Tyres in Kochi usually have good stock of Michelins. However, even they didn't have any. They however had 225/50 or 245/45 profiles. I was fortunate to meet the proprietors Mr. Nithin and his father at New Bharath and they gave me a reasonable exchange for my old tyres with discount for the new ones. So I was convinced to change all four. Taking me for an enthusiast, he suggested I go for wider Pirellis. But I decided to change all wheels to 225/50 and stuck to Michelins as I valued comfort over performance (I'm getting old !). Besides, the Pirellis where slightly expensive. They were W speed rated and thus seemed to have a harder compound. Cost of this tyre change Rs.50,000/- after discount and exchange.

After the tyre change, I've noticed a considerable increase in ground clearance and was surprised at how much the extra 5% profile change made (with same tyre pressure of 33psi).
Pictures below for reference.

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Not very apparent from far


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But obvious when close by


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Picture taken 2 years back to show ground clearance


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Now after the tyre change


The low speed ride has changed to more comfortable. With 33 psi its not bouncy on bad roads or floaty on the highways. I have not tested it for performance and don't intend to. Grip levels were adequate on some emergency braking situations at highway speeds. But I suspect the wonderful ABS and TCS systems also had a role in it.
I don't know if its' psycholgical, but the added ground clearance makes it more confident to go over speed humps and such. Earlier, in certain places where the flap ahead of the front wheel (seen in the pictures above) used to scrape (at a mall exit, over a large hump etc), it doesn't anymore.

I was advised 50 profile tyres years ago (25000km back). However due to my obsession with Michelins (who didn't have 50 profile on 225s then), I changed to the 45 profile. There was slight increase in ground clearance then too, but not noticeable.


Service
The service message started popping up this month. Odo was on 42000km.
This was a rather expensive service.
Apart from the routine, the following needed replacement;

Charge air hose of the turbo unit had started leaking oil ~ Rs.7000
Link for the strut and antiroll bar on the right side needed replacement ~ Rs.8000
Multi filter and Cabin AC filter (which was completely blocked) ~ Rs.5000
Various clamps which were worn out and recommended replacing ~ Rs 3000
Engine oil (Castrol Edge) ~ Rs.6500
Perhaps due to the recent alternator belt fiasco, the battery I was told, will need replacement in about 3 months. The battery was last changed in October 2014. So rather than wait and get into a situation in the near future, I asked the battery be changed at this service.
The same AC Delco DIN 80 was replaced ~Rs. 9600
Wiper blades will need changing but I am holding on as its' going to be summer

Volvo S60 D5: 4 year / 25000 kms Ownership Review-turbo-hose.jpg
Turbo hose and various clamps, nuts etc,

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Although these components needed to be replaced, I did not notice any performance issues or abnormal suspension noises. It was only with the alternator belt tear that I could notice something amiss. But that was of course, after the battery was reaching its critical point. It is interesting and re-assuring to note that these cars have an additional small backup battery for critical vehicle and safety systems in case of power loss.

Thus the total service cost with labour charges came to Rs.58,000/-. This included Service tax, VAT, various cesses etc, which came to about Rs.7300/-.

Some shots of the interiors at 6 years:

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Front passenger side, that grey thing on the seatbelt is a child seatbelt adapter (brought online thanks to this exhaustive thread by samaspire
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...-your-car.html (Small, yet value-adding Accessories for your car))


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The most used seat


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The most abused seats


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Front dash and steering


People keep asking me whether it isn't time to change the car.
Sure. Logically it is. My car, no matter how much TLC I gave it, has started depreciating in value. If you are looking at exchange or resale, its' high time I dispose this off.
But I tend to keep my cars for a lot longer if I can afford to. As long as maintenance costs are not forbidding and utility (need) doesn't change, I keep my cars longer. I also have an emotional attachment to my cars. If I could, I wouldn't have sold any of them. But I would have become a very poor man in the process.

My actual first car, the Alto VX (I had an 800 prior), was with me from 2001 till end 2014. A good 14 years. My Dad's Accord was with us from 2002 till again 2014, when he got his Camry. The Alto, well kitted and maintained, gave me a good resale value. The Accord didn't. However, the Alto was changed due to a 'need' as my wife had started driving by herself. The Accord however was changed due to prohibitive maintenance costs. A lucky guy got it for a bargain as it was taking the Camry's parking space in the house. The Alto is with my next door neighbour and the Accord was bought by a young guy in my hometown who had apparently been eyeing it for years.

No doubt my Volvo will need some more component replacements down the line to keep her shipshape. No doubt it is going to cost. However, thus far the costs to keep her that way are anything but prohibitive. This is the highest I had to spend on maintenance in the past 6 years. And that hopefully, is an indicator of this car's durability and longevity. My next car will most probably be an SUV. But with roads getting better I don't feel a need for it at present. If I do end up buying one, and if finances and regulations (and space) permit, I may retain this as my second car.

The number of Volvos are increasing on our roads. Our Whatsapp group now has 96 members and is fast growing. Because of this, spares availability won't be an issue for me in the near future. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a glitch free future ahead. The road so far has been great!

Cheers.

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The experience so far

This year in April, it will be six years since the S60 entered my life.
But I decided to change all wheels to 225/50 and stuck to Michelins as I valued comfort over performance (I'm getting old !).
After the tyre change, I've noticed a considerable increase in ground clearance and was surprised at how much the extra 5% profile change made (with same tyre pressure of 33psi).

The low speed ride has changed to more comfortable. It is interesting and re-assuring to note that these cars have an additional small backup battery for critical vehicle and safety systems in case of power loss. Thus the total service cost with labour charges came to Rs.58,000/-. This included Service tax, VAT, various cesses etc, which came to about Rs.7300/-.
Doc, thank you for the update. Reassuring to hear that 6 years on the car is giving you smooth service and that Volvo stepped up to the plate on the belt situation. The car is looking neat.

Just learnt through your thread about the back up emergency services battery. I'll check for it in my XC60. The ground clearance is a good 30mm greater - maybe more. Good for you. Keep the car for 10 years. For a high end 6 year old car Rs 58k isn't bad for a maintenance event (just my view). May she continue to serve you with safety and reliability.
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Thanks for the update, I've been following this thread as well as a couple of others on Volvo here.. they are really a understated bunch of cars and probably losing out only due to the lack of the 'first mover' advantage that the Germans have in the Indian market and also cause the Vs are more sedate and all rounded (nothing flashy!) unlike the Bimmers & Mercs which excel in driving dynamics & comfort, respectively.

And i have to say, the seats look pretty good for 6 years old, you have to give to the Europeans for build quality, I have a Laura TDI DSG and their seats look like near new even after 92K kms & 5+ years.
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Quick update:

One fine morning, a "Book for service" message appeared on the MID. Odo was just past 48k. I had only recently serviced at 42k in February and was concerned that it was something major.

The rear brake pads and discs had apparently worn out to near the end of their lifespan. Fortunately nothing else amiss. The service engineer who took the car from my apartment immediately felt a diminished pedal response and was surprised I didn't realize it.

I guess the brake fade was so slow that I didn't notice as my driving was predominantly in slow city traffic. This also explains the accelerated brake fade. My foot is more on the brake than on the accelerator in the city due to the slow traffic. Keeping a safe distance and slow deceleration is just not practical. Any potential space between you and the vehicle ahead gets filled up with bikes, cars and any vehicles that can potentially fill that space.

Anyway, post replacement, the difference was quite apparent in terms of pedal displacement during braking. it is now a lot less.

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The cost of rear brake pads, discs, brake fluid and service was around Rs. 30,000/-. There was a feedback enquiry form from Volvo via email, a week after the service. My only grouse was that the car was delivered back uncleaned and dusty. I guess this must be due to my insisting the car be delivered early morning the next day.

The city safety systems are being tested regularly on the Kochi roads and are fortunately working just fine. I also occasionally test the radar guided cruise control on the highways and they are still in perfect order. However it is useless for prolonged use on Kerala highways.

I will update any events as they come. Nothing else to report.
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