Maruti Suzuki Zen Estilo - First Impressions

vebmetal · 27th June 2007, 00:58

Took it out for a test drive today - one thing that no one else has mentioned is that the power steering is really really nice! The pickup was also decent (for the segment). And surprisingly it is roomy - as in there is very decent leg-space but yes, 5 adults cannot fit.

The way I see it is that build quality and finish is poor for much of the interior, but that is the trade-off for having better FE + cheaper repairs.

The biggest flaw in this car is the gears. The stick is quite unpleasant, and the 'grooves' are not well defined. When I first took it out, I put it in 3rd gear instead of 1st, and did not even notice. Then to take it from 4th to 5th you have to 'tug' the gear stick towards you and push up - fairly unpleasant considering the speed you would be going at when you need to engage the 5th gear.

Even if it meant paying a few thousand more, I would rather that Maruti fix this problem, because with a good gear-stick this would be good value for money for it's segment.

hitanshu · 27th June 2007, 14:27

Veb,

I agree on the interiors bit and the power steering. The car is a sheer joy. And I hit all of 40-50 kph in the first gear by redlining it - the car had excellent breaks (test VXi with ~500 on odo)

To me, biggest flaw was interior space. Seemed like a tricked out Alto - better, spacoious seats but four adults just about fit. Don't try to move either

The space looked more than it actually was. Or maybe I'm biased (we got an Indica in the house - takes five oversize people well

)

karthik_ag1 · 27th June 2007, 22:12

I am not a big fan of the estilo looks. Had a chance to check it out over the weekend. Interiors feel cramped for space. Didn't like the ride either. Would prefer the Wagon R over the new Zen.

vebmetal · 4th July 2007, 13:32

Of course, whether or not you like the looks is totally subjective. Somehow on forums such as this people are very critical of its looks. I think it looks quite awesome, and IMHO it looks better than the Swift. (Stock model that is, a little mod to the swift and it looks totally kickass). What I also like is that the Estilo has dramatic 'mood' changes with the colour of the paint. The normal red, and the new purple etc. make it looks somewhat sporty / funky etc. But the same car in champagne-beige looks very elegant and formal.

But as I said that's totally subjective.

I haven't ridden in a WagonR recently but I don't think there is very much space difference between the two. Someone on their blog also mentioned that inch for inch the rear seat in both cars is almost of the same width. (sorry can't find the link). And yes, while it would have been nice for 5 people to fit, no car is perfect. (btw do 5 people fit comfortably in the WagonR?)

Nimz · 20th August 2007, 00:26

Having never considered the Estilo during my purchase I find it diffcult to answere when asked by prospective buyers the difference between the Estilo and the Spark as both are more or less in the same segment and cute (depends on which side you are) looks.

So went for a TD today. Dealership was empty and had two enthusiastic sales reps to show me the car. Had my cousin along whose knowledge about cars begins and ends with the Ambassador, Maruti 800, Esteem. Every other car she sees resembles either one of the above 3. Took her as she has been in the passenger seat of the Sparky frequently.

So the Estilo.. She was not impressed with its looks - that is anyway subjective.

Seats - I found them comfortable compared to the Spark. Longer squabs for better under thigh support. The beige interiors gives a bright look compared to Spark's dark interiors. Started the car. Loud engine.. being used to the Sparks quiet engine both of us felt so. Slotted into gear.. Spark felt and shifted better.the sales guy said that it was a TD car so after rough usage the shift becomes like this.. Initial pick up better than the Spark is what I felt. BUt at higher revs I find the SPark more repsonsive.

Handling.. didnt have much chance to throw it around so cannot comment. Ride quality.. well it was not refined like the Spark. My cousin also felt that the ride was better in the Spark though she couldnt say why.. It was not bad but compared to the Spark I felt the Spark was better.

Rear leg space - decent but when the front seats are pushed fully back your legs get crushed. Not so with the Spark. Boot space - definitely bigger than the Spark and the rear seat can be folded down with the press of a button through the boot itself unlike the Spark where you have to open the rear door and do a 2 step process..

So thats about it.. the Estilo scores on initial accelaration, seat comfort and boot space.. while the Spark was on driveability, handling (cant say about the estilo here) and ride quality.A.S.S, FE etc are other factors one has to ofcourse consider over and above this..

CrAzY dRiVeR · 20th August 2007, 00:49

Nice report Nimz!

I feel the biggest blunder that Maruti did was with the colours on the Estilo. Had it not been for the pink estilo, many would have considered it.

skandyhere · 26th August 2007, 04:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimz

Having never considered the Estilo during my purchase I find it diffcult to answere when asked by prospective buyers the difference between the Estilo and the Spark as both are more or less in the same segment and cute (depends on which side you are) looks.

So went for a TD today. Dealership was empty and had two enthusiastic sales reps to show me the car. ..

no other place to ask this question - so i put it here, although it's also been posted in a rather inconspicuous nook of the forum.

i was just curious. having once visited a showroom for a TD of a car, perhaps one would be unwelcome the next time he visits, say, after a new model release. natural, as dealers wouldn't encourage mere jolly ride-seekers. totally understandable, this.

but i find so many t-bhp guys test driving almost every new release. i'm just curious as to how they manage to do that, unless they know somone at the dealer's.

sivadas · 27th August 2007, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by skandyhere

but i find so many t-bhp guys test driving almost every new release. i'm just curious as to how they manage to do that, unless they know somone at the dealer's.

Obviously those dealers know that every one goes to TBHP (test drivers) for advice

On a serious note, I have not seen dealers worried about the fact that people test driving might not buy it.

skandyhere · 27th August 2007, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by sivadas

On a serious note, I have not seen dealers worried about the fact that people test driving might not buy it.

it's not that dealers would mind test drives, but you can't go posing as a buyer for an aveo first, and then for a magnum a few months later... it's very obviously established that you're there for a free ride and little else, right?

even if dealers don't mind giving out test drives without clinching a deal, they might not entertain ppl who come for entertainment.

simply_sunny001 · 27th August 2007, 15:29

ya definetely

that pink/purple kind of color is far too feminine and dont like men driving that

anyways never liked zen estilo

wish maruti cud have stuck to the old model

LongDrive · 31st October 2011, 22:25

Do we have Test Drive or Owner Ship review of New Zen Estilo with K10 Engine. I searched a lot but could not find any ?

27th June 2007, 00:58	#46
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 800 Thanked: 21 Times	Took it out for a test drive today - one thing that no one else has mentioned is that the power steering is really really nice! The pickup was also decent (for the segment). And surprisingly it is roomy - as in there is very decent leg-space but yes, 5 adults cannot fit. The way I see it is that build quality and finish is poor for much of the interior, but that is the trade-off for having better FE + cheaper repairs. The biggest flaw in this car is the gears. The stick is quite unpleasant, and the 'grooves' are not well defined. When I first took it out, I put it in 3rd gear instead of 1st, and did not even notice. Then to take it from 4th to 5th you have to 'tug' the gear stick towards you and push up - fairly unpleasant considering the speed you would be going at when you need to engage the 5th gear. Even if it meant paying a few thousand more, I would rather that Maruti fix this problem, because with a good gear-stick this would be good value for money for it's segment.
	() Thanks

27th June 2007, 14:27	#47
hitanshu Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi/Ahmedabad/... Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Veb, I agree on the interiors bit and the power steering. The car is a sheer joy. And I hit all of 40-50 kph in the first gear by redlining it - the car had excellent breaks (test VXi with ~500 on odo) To me, biggest flaw was interior space. Seemed like a tricked out Alto - better, spacoious seats but four adults just about fit. Don't try to move either The space looked more than it actually was. Or maybe I'm biased (we got an Indica in the house - takes five oversize people well )
	() Thanks

27th June 2007, 22:12	#48
karthik_ag1 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 12 Thanked: Once	I am not a big fan of the estilo looks. Had a chance to check it out over the weekend. Interiors feel cramped for space. Didn't like the ride either. Would prefer the Wagon R over the new Zen.
	() Thanks

4th July 2007, 13:32	#49
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 800 Thanked: 21 Times	Of course, whether or not you like the looks is totally subjective. Somehow on forums such as this people are very critical of its looks. I think it looks quite awesome, and IMHO it looks better than the Swift. (Stock model that is, a little mod to the swift and it looks totally kickass). What I also like is that the Estilo has dramatic 'mood' changes with the colour of the paint. The normal red, and the new purple etc. make it looks somewhat sporty / funky etc. But the same car in champagne-beige looks very elegant and formal. But as I said that's totally subjective. I haven't ridden in a WagonR recently but I don't think there is very much space difference between the two. Someone on their blog also mentioned that inch for inch the rear seat in both cars is almost of the same width. (sorry can't find the link). And yes, while it would have been nice for 5 people to fit, no car is perfect. (btw do 5 people fit comfortably in the WagonR?)
	() Thanks

20th August 2007, 00:26	#50
Nimz BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 593 Thanked: 200 Times View My Garage	Estilo driven after driving Spark Having never considered the Estilo during my purchase I find it diffcult to answere when asked by prospective buyers the difference between the Estilo and the Spark as both are more or less in the same segment and cute (depends on which side you are) looks. So went for a TD today. Dealership was empty and had two enthusiastic sales reps to show me the car. Had my cousin along whose knowledge about cars begins and ends with the Ambassador, Maruti 800, Esteem. Every other car she sees resembles either one of the above 3. Took her as she has been in the passenger seat of the Sparky frequently. So the Estilo.. She was not impressed with its looks - that is anyway subjective. Seats - I found them comfortable compared to the Spark. Longer squabs for better under thigh support. The beige interiors gives a bright look compared to Spark's dark interiors. Started the car. Loud engine.. being used to the Sparks quiet engine both of us felt so. Slotted into gear.. Spark felt and shifted better.the sales guy said that it was a TD car so after rough usage the shift becomes like this.. Initial pick up better than the Spark is what I felt. BUt at higher revs I find the SPark more repsonsive. Handling.. didnt have much chance to throw it around so cannot comment. Ride quality.. well it was not refined like the Spark. My cousin also felt that the ride was better in the Spark though she couldnt say why.. It was not bad but compared to the Spark I felt the Spark was better. Rear leg space - decent but when the front seats are pushed fully back your legs get crushed. Not so with the Spark. Boot space - definitely bigger than the Spark and the rear seat can be folded down with the press of a button through the boot itself unlike the Spark where you have to open the rear door and do a 2 step process.. So thats about it.. the Estilo scores on initial accelaration, seat comfort and boot space.. while the Spark was on driveability, handling (cant say about the estilo here) and ride quality.A.S.S, FE etc are other factors one has to ofcourse consider over and above this..
	() Thanks

20th August 2007, 00:49	#51
CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 18,047 Thanked: 79,180 Times View My Garage	Nice report Nimz! I feel the biggest blunder that Maruti did was with the colours on the Estilo. Had it not been for the pink estilo, many would have considered it.
	() Thanks

27th August 2007, 15:29	#55
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,338 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	ya definetely that pink/purple kind of color is far too feminine and dont like men driving that anyways never liked zen estilo wish maruti cud have stuck to the old model
	() Thanks

31st October 2011, 22:25	#56
LongDrive BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 67 Thanked: 12 Times	Re: Maruti Suzuki Zen Estilo - First Impressions Do we have Test Drive or Owner Ship review of New Zen Estilo with K10 Engine. I searched a lot but could not find any ?
	() Thanks