Why Overdrive Does not mention the source of Spy pics??

tushky · 15th July 2007, 22:52

well this is a very serious question for me. i send spy photos to Autocar and also Overdrive. while Autocar is very friendly. after publishing the pic they say thanks, they always mention sourse of spy pics and even they give something to the photographer.
but about Overdrive, well when i informed them about my spy pics by mail , they replyed me and asked for my spy pics. so one of my spy pic(Ingineo's dashboard) got published in OD's feb 2007 issue. but they didnt mention the sourse. so i asked them by a mail about the sourse or Credit.. they didnt reply me. again same thing happend. OD published my 2 spy pics( Tata Globus and Bajaj bike) in July 2007 Issue. again there was no sourse. so i mailed them 4 times in good manner. But they didnt reply to my single mail. so atlast i asked them in a bit rude language. but still i am waiting for OD's reply

i dont know why Overdrive act like this.if they want photos they always reply to mail. but they never give credit. they are 'thieving imbeciles' now the respect whatever i was having for Overdrive is now gone

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what should i do now?? please suggest me friends i hope Overdrive will check this post and will learn something.

theMAG · 15th July 2007, 22:57

They're unprofessional, from what you say. Next time send them a grievance email with all previous emails pertaining to this subject attached; while telling and showing them that you are CC-ing this email to the local newspaper's editor, as a plea for justice.

And next time, stop sending any pics to OD - unless they're paying you for it and agree to give credit where due

Vid6639 · 15th July 2007, 23:03

You have tried the nice way now to lay down your terms. First the green and then the pics. one hand give one hand take.

binz · 15th July 2007, 23:11

Simple.Tell autocar this.Tell them you will send the pics exclusively to them and ask them to publish that fact.OVerdrive wont know what hit them.

Gordon · 15th July 2007, 23:18

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what should i do now?? please suggest me friends i hope Overdrive will check this post and will learn something.

Post this up on the Overdrive Forum. They'll surely notice.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 16th July 2007, 00:15

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Originally Posted by binz

Simple.Tell autocar this.Tell them you will send the pics exclusively to them and ask them to publish that fact.OVerdrive wont know what hit them.

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Post this up on the Overdrive Forum. They'll surely notice.

tusky, while you post, make sure you give them this link too.

Magazines wont want negative publicity, and they are sure to respond.

khanak · 16th July 2007, 01:52

Tushky, I think you need to be a bit smarter with your pics. You have EXCLUSIVE pictures with you which even the photographers from the magazine havent been able to take. IMO these pictrues are worth a lot. Get a contract or a job with one of the magazines and you may even be paid for your pictures. Dont send your pictures to the magazine and then expect them to be nice enough to quote you as the source. If all you want is recognition, stop sending OD the pictures and keep sending them to Autocar.

tushky · 16th July 2007, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Post this up on the Overdrive Forum. They'll surely notice.

hmm this can be good idea. i am going to do this.

and yes, i will give post Tbhp link too.

tushky · 16th July 2007, 10:21

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Originally Posted by khanak

stop sending OD the pictures and keep sending them to Autocar.

well i have already stoped sending pics to overdrive. the pics in july issue are 2 months old.

Mayavi · 16th July 2007, 11:03

Next time you send pictures to a magazine and only want name credit for it, not cash, then you can watermark the image in a way that they cannot remove it. Here is an example: http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero...2/P1000842.jpg

This was done after an image by this photographer was published in a 'reputed' magazine with no credit whatsoever. IIRC the photographer sued the magazine and the case is still pending. If Overdrive wants a unmarked picture, you can always send them the original after receiving proper compensation

tushky · 16th July 2007, 11:13

hey mayavi the link is not opening.
yes i will do that.thanks neways.

directinjection · 16th July 2007, 14:46

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Originally Posted by tushky

i dont know why Overdrive act like this.if they want photos they always reply to mail. but they never give credit. they are 'thieving imbeciles' now the respect whatever i was having for Overdrive is now gone

.
what should i do now?? please suggest me friends i hope Overdrive will check this post and will learn something.

'thieving imbeciles' they sure are. During the last few months of my subscription, I was getting my copy only after lodging complaint regarding non-receipt. I'm happy not to renew the subscription.

Since you take the pictures yourself without being commissioned by anyone to do so, you are the 'author' and owner of copyright in them. As the author of these pics, you are entitled to certain special rights under Section 57 of the Copyright Act. These rights include the right of attribution, i.e. the right to claim authorship of the work. This right is available to you even after you have sold your copyright in return for money.

Send them a scary legal notice and they sure will listen. If they don't (quite unlikely), you can get an order from court.

spadival · 16th July 2007, 14:55

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Originally Posted by tushky

hey mayavi the link is not opening.
yes i will do that.thanks neways.

As a parting shot, send them a spy shot with "tuskhy 2007" scribbled all over the pic.. Lets see if they can remove it

BunnyPunia · 16th July 2007, 15:06

hmmm...strange. i had sent a pic for the backsection (the funny section or woteva..)
the pic got posted along with my name too.. but then why not urs?that too twice! is it that they want to take all the credit?

benbsb29 · 16th July 2007, 16:18

BunnyPunia, in your case, it wasnt a scoop. Scoops are indeed big for the auto magz, and they try to make it look like they found these pics.

15th July 2007, 22:52	#1
tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 2,799 Times View My Garage	Why Overdrive Does not mention the source of Spy pics?? well this is a very serious question for me. i send spy photos to Autocar and also Overdrive. while Autocar is very friendly. after publishing the pic they say thanks, they always mention sourse of spy pics and even they give something to the photographer. but about Overdrive, well when i informed them about my spy pics by mail , they replyed me and asked for my spy pics. so one of my spy pic(Ingineo's dashboard) got published in OD's feb 2007 issue. but they didnt mention the sourse. so i asked them by a mail about the sourse or Credit.. they didnt reply me. again same thing happend. OD published my 2 spy pics( Tata Globus and Bajaj bike) in July 2007 Issue. again there was no sourse. so i mailed them 4 times in good manner. But they didnt reply to my single mail. so atlast i asked them in a bit rude language. but still i am waiting for OD's reply i dont know why Overdrive act like this.if they want photos they always reply to mail. but they never give credit. they are 'thieving imbeciles' now the respect whatever i was having for Overdrive is now gone . what should i do now?? please suggest me friends i hope Overdrive will check this post and will learn something.
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15th July 2007, 22:57	#2
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,811 Times View My Garage	They're unprofessional, from what you say. Next time send them a grievance email with all previous emails pertaining to this subject attached; while telling and showing them that you are CC-ing this email to the local newspaper's editor, as a plea for justice. And next time, stop sending any pics to OD - unless they're paying you for it and agree to give credit where due
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15th July 2007, 23:03	#3
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,757 Thanked: 43,811 Times View My Garage	You have tried the nice way now to lay down your terms. First the green and then the pics. one hand give one hand take.
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15th July 2007, 23:11	#4
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Simple.Tell autocar this.Tell them you will send the pics exclusively to them and ask them to publish that fact.OVerdrive wont know what hit them.
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16th July 2007, 01:52	#7
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,800 Thanked: 270 Times View My Garage	Tushky, I think you need to be a bit smarter with your pics. You have EXCLUSIVE pictures with you which even the photographers from the magazine havent been able to take. IMO these pictrues are worth a lot. Get a contract or a job with one of the magazines and you may even be paid for your pictures. Dont send your pictures to the magazine and then expect them to be nice enough to quote you as the source. If all you want is recognition, stop sending OD the pictures and keep sending them to Autocar.
	() Thanks

16th July 2007, 11:03	#10
Mayavi BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 683 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Next time you send pictures to a magazine and only want name credit for it, not cash, then you can watermark the image in a way that they cannot remove it. Here is an example: http://media.bharat-rakshak.com/aero...2/P1000842.jpg This was done after an image by this photographer was published in a 'reputed' magazine with no credit whatsoever. IIRC the photographer sued the magazine and the case is still pending. If Overdrive wants a unmarked picture, you can always send them the original after receiving proper compensation
	() Thanks

16th July 2007, 11:13	#11
tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,256 Thanked: 2,799 Times View My Garage	hey mayavi the link is not opening. yes i will do that.thanks neways.
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16th July 2007, 15:06	#14
BunnyPunia BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 905 Thanked: 1,499 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	hmmm...strange. i had sent a pic for the backsection (the funny section or woteva..) the pic got posted along with my name too.. but then why not urs?that too twice! is it that they want to take all the credit?
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16th July 2007, 16:18	#15
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,021 Thanked: 13,577 Times View My Garage	BunnyPunia, in your case, it wasnt a scoop. Scoops are indeed big for the auto magz, and they try to make it look like they found these pics.
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