The Fuel Additives Thread

dadu · 27th January 2012, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoXLGrandDi

Same was told to me by the Works Manager at Sterling Motors, Solapur that the fuel Additive should not be used in Tata Indigo XL since it will Clog the Injectors.
But I have used the System D many times but did not face the Clogging Issue yet. Touch wood.

Check in the Owner's Manual if the System D is recommended. If it is, then you can safely use it in your Safari.

The diesel filter used for CRDI engines filters to less than 2 microns which is safe for any injector to process. Diesel mixed with System D also passes through it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

@Sagar, easy there. There is conflicting information on this. Tata says dont use in Dicor engines, but Ford says fine. Ford even sells this at their A.S.S. I have used it in both - my IDI Turbo engine Sumo & the TDCi Ikon. I have not seen any problems.

The ratio is so small - 1ml per liter - .1%. So I dont really expect problems in using it.

Agree with Condor here, its use has seen no negative impact over many years now.

sagarpadaki · 27th January 2012, 11:16

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Originally Posted by condor

@Sagar, easy there. There is conflicting information on this. Tata says dont use in Dicor engines, but Ford says fine. Ford even sells this at their A.S.S. I have used it in both - my IDI Turbo engine Sumo & the TDCi Ikon. I have not seen any problems.

The ratio is so small - 1ml per liter - .1%. So I dont really expect problems in using it.

Thanks condor. I intend to use one bottle every 3K kms so as to clean the injectors(Thats what the bottle says). Anyway i would be running without additive for 3000 kms.So its a cycle of 3K with additive,3K without additive.That should not do any harm i believe!

But i seiously like to have this in my diesel . The difference is very noticable

IndigoXLGrandDi · 4th February 2012, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by condor

Tata says dont use in Dicor engines

Infact Tata Motors Ltd recommends to use System D in both Owner's Manuals (Indigo LS IDI and Indigo XL Dicor). But the Works Manager at Sterling Motors Solapur advised me not to use it since it clogs the Injectors. He did not say anything about Diesel Filter clogging though.

Off-Topic..
I want to know is it safe to use 2T or 4T Engine Oil at the identical ratio (1ml/liter) instead of System D since the latter is Very Expensive (@4times the cost of 2T or 4T Engine Oil).

I will check the Thread of "Mixing 2T Oil in Fuel" too.

straight6 · 24th March 2012, 20:07

Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.

dadu · 24th March 2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by straight6

Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.

Their registered office is in Mumbai, call them, 022-29208128 .

Or their dealers :

Ravi Motors : 23876891
SAI OM Enterprises : 25333674

PS: If you call their registered office, can you ask them to update their website too

thx.

condor · 24th March 2012, 21:17

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Originally Posted by straight6

Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.

Try in Ford A.S.S. I pick up my stock from the local Ford A.S.S

straight6 · 24th March 2012, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadu

Their registered office is in Mumbai, call them, 022-29208128 .

Or their dealers :

Ravi Motors : 23876891
SAI OM Enterprises : 25333674

PS: If you call their registered office, can you ask them to update their website too

thx.

Thanks! I'll call them on Monday and ask them to update the website too

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Originally Posted by condor

Try in Ford A.S.S. I pick up my stock from the local Ford A.S.S

I'll have to check where the closest one is. Thanks.

Right now I have injector cleaner liquid from ABRO which manson gave me. Its worked in my carbs too. Has anyone else tried it? I was also considering the carb and injector treatment from STP.

greenhorn · 14th April 2012, 08:41

do those of you who use system D get their fuel filters clogged faster ? I've had my filters clogged a LOT despite filling up from good pumps. Beginning to wonder if it works by coagulating the impurities and trapping them at the filter before they clog up the injectors

condor · 14th April 2012, 10:27

No Greenhorn, No such issues. Have you tried without Sys-D for a sufficiently long period, on new fuel filters ? What brand of filters are you using ?

GSMINC · 15th April 2012, 23:51

After going thorugh this thread, I do agree that System D is not easily available everywhere, but you do get it if you really search hard for it, guess it's like lost love.
I found it last week, picked up the whole carton of 12 bottles from a Tata dealer here in Bangalore, cost me Rs.250/- for a 250ml plastic can.
If anyone is desperate for System D, I can spare a can or two, Do PM me if you need it, BTW I live in Bangalore.

greenhorn · 16th April 2012, 00:12

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Originally Posted by condor

No Greenhorn, No such issues. Have you tried without Sys-D for a sufficiently long period, on new fuel filters ? What brand of filters are you using ?

I think the longest I've gone is two tankfuls, after which the engine becomes too harsh for my taste. Not sure about the filters. I use whatever the TASC/workshop uses. will check next time

ghodlur · 16th April 2012, 07:37

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Originally Posted by straight6

Guys does anyone know where System-G is available in Bombay? Preferably western suburbs or thane area.

You can get a can of System G at the BPCL bunk at Majiwada in Thane. It costs 300/- for the can, I recently got one and have been regularly using it. Lasts for 6 tank fulls i.e 3 months.

condor · 16th April 2012, 07:44

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

I think the longest I've gone is two tankfuls, after which the engine becomes too harsh for my taste.

Surprised. Not sure why, because I also get my fuel filter changes at A.S.S (Tata & Ford), with the normal fuel filters that they use. Yet neither of my vehicles gives me this problem.

straight6 · 17th April 2012, 06:42

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Originally Posted by ghodlur

You can get a can of System G at the BPCL bunk at Majiwada in Thane. It costs 300/- for the can, I recently got one and have been regularly using it. Lasts for 6 tank fulls i.e 3 months.

Thanks. We meet there before Sunday rides so I'll check next time. I have bought one bottle from the Lotus pump at Andheri. My friend also picked one up from a pump near Radio Club in SoBo.

mgh · 17th April 2012, 07:32

I have seen system D at BP outlets, also at Tata workshops. I don't see filters getting choked quickly. Engine sounds much smoother with it than without it. I can't comment on FE, as the car's routine is highly variable.
Best was close to 14 km/ltr when it was being used on a particular route regularly, otherwise it varies between 11.5 to 12.5 depending on the traffic. This was all in city driving. My car is a Indica DLX V2 Turbo.

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greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,878 Thanked: 4,910 Times View My Garage	re: The fuel additives thread do those of you who use system D get their fuel filters clogged faster ? I've had my filters clogged a LOT despite filling up from good pumps. Beginning to wonder if it works by coagulating the impurities and trapping them at the filter before they clog up the injectors
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condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,245 Thanked: 16,904 Times View My Garage	re: The fuel additives thread No Greenhorn, No such issues. Have you tried without Sys-D for a sufficiently long period, on new fuel filters ? What brand of filters are you using ?
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15th April 2012, 23:51	#445
GSMINC BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 395 Thanked: 198 Times	re: The fuel additives thread After going thorugh this thread, I do agree that System D is not easily available everywhere, but you do get it if you really search hard for it, guess it's like lost love. I found it last week, picked up the whole carton of 12 bottles from a Tata dealer here in Bangalore, cost me Rs.250/- for a 250ml plastic can. If anyone is desperate for System D, I can spare a can or two, Do PM me if you need it, BTW I live in Bangalore.
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mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	re: The fuel additives thread I have seen system D at BP outlets, also at Tata workshops. I don't see filters getting choked quickly. Engine sounds much smoother with it than without it. I can't comment on FE, as the car's routine is highly variable. Best was close to 14 km/ltr when it was being used on a particular route regularly, otherwise it varies between 11.5 to 12.5 depending on the traffic. This was all in city driving. My car is a Indica DLX V2 Turbo.
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