Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries

Bullitt · 11th March 2011, 17:03

Well, I prefer single color too, but it looks like the owner Saptarshi and sierrakamat have decided to paint glossy black between the 2nd and 3rd lines, leaving the rest in matte.

Saptarshi B · 11th March 2011, 23:18

Well I prefer the complete vehicle in a single color too. Just going with sierrakamats suggestion to see how it looks. Can be fixed to complete matt black in no time. The paint job is yet to start on this weekend so I have some time to change my mind.... Suggestions are most welcome !!

Saptarshi B · 13th March 2011, 23:04

WIP Pics of the body work being done.

There is some rust behind the headlight and the front bumbers. Part of the floor board had to be replaced too

sierrakamat · 13th March 2011, 23:44

thanks for all the discussions on the second line black and the photoshopping etc BUT ultimately I will decide the colors all you guys are just INCIDENTAL as far as the sierra restoration projects are concerned and DONT you puppies forget THAT

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on a more sober note lets wait and see what happens i may paint the bonnet and the strip between the second and third line jet black just to see how she comes up feel the single color of matt black will be too boring (been here done that sort of thingy)

kaustubh_vaze · 14th March 2011, 14:10

Good going Dr. Kamat. Fast work eh? I believe you are taking a liking to car restorations nowadays. What are your thoughts on visitng Allan and trying to figure out what he thinks about the 4X4 conversion?

Regards,
Kaustubh

sierrakamat · 16th March 2011, 16:02

vaze buva you are the one who stays at pune i can go to allan within 20 mins you decide let me know any sunday come when bullit wants to do his electricals.

kaustubh_vaze · 7th April 2011, 16:37

@SierraKamat, @Saptarshi - Hows the progress on the car? Please post some WIP/Completed pics of the red Sierra.

Regards,
Kaustubh

Saptarshi B · 8th April 2011, 14:09

Hi Guys,

Doc Kamat would have the latest pics. I am attaching some of the older pics so that you can see the transition from the Silver to the new color and see the wip !

This is with the repair work being done. The channel on top of the door has been sealed so no more water dripping in the Monsoon !

Saptarshi B · 8th April 2011, 14:30

Keeping this as a separate to show the next stage of the paint job.

This is with the undercoat paint. The final decision (after too much debate - Thanks Doc Kamat for your help on this) was the Dark Mettalic grey color

The final coat of paint has been done. I have the photos at home and will post over the weekend.

The interiors will be complete by today as well.

kaustubh_vaze · 8th April 2011, 16:30

OY HOY!!! Change of colour from Red to Dark Metallic Grey!!! Looks nice. Is it going to be a single colour or a combination?
Good job Saptarshi and Doctor Kamat. If all goes well, (monetarily), u will have my car by end of May. Let me know if atleast the top channels and some emergency work can be done pre-monsoon.

Regards,
Kaustubh

sierrakamat · 9th April 2011, 09:21

permutations combinations consultations presentations trials and tribulations frustrations and trepidations just fade away when at the end of the day this is what you get.

kaustubh_vaze · 11th April 2011, 12:14

Amazing, just amazing Doctor saheb!!! Saptarishi & Bullit - lucky guys...Both your Sierra's look stunning....

condor · 11th April 2011, 12:41

One suggestion, though based purely on personal preference. Can you get the old, original Tata logo instead of the one that is there on the grille currently ?

Bullitt · 11th April 2011, 16:40

Finally... I had given up all hopes about this thread, it seemed to have gone into a deep slumber.

@ Saptarshi and sierrakamat: Great going guys, the metallic grey looks good. I believe this shade was offered as standard on the Sierra at some point in time. I have seen a few first-gen Sumos too having this color (probably because they would be manufactured during the same time period).

@ sierrakamat: As far as I remember, the Sierra from which we salvaged my seats and dashboard (the one that was broken up at Kurla) was of exactly this color. Lets just say Saptarshi's Sierra is a reincarnation of that vehicle.

I see you guys followed the same color scheme for the interiors as what was done in my Sierra. Is it the same dotted material? What about the seats? New cushions/covers?

@ Saptarshi: Change the headlamps man, they look really tired. Since your car uses the inset rectangular CV-type beams, I think you can go for the new clear-lens type beams found on the latest Tata LPT 1109 EX. They look really good, and clear-lens will give you better visibility and light throw. Heres a picture:

Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries-tatalpt1109.jpg

@ condor: That logo on the grille is an original and authentic one, and quite a rare one at that. It was created in the mid-nineties when the erstwhile TELCO faced some issues with the original logo. It seems some European company making auto parts had a similar logo, which TELCO found out only when they decided to start exporting their cars to Europe. To avoid confusion in the minds of their European customers, TELCO was forced to go for the change. To make production easier, this new logo was also adopted for the domestic market for a short while. But TELCO reverted back to the old one shortly, possibly to avoid a major re-branding exercise in the domestic market. This logo was then continued only for the European market.

Sadly, I can't remember the name of the European company, though it is quite famous (I had once come across it in a logo quiz someone sent me). The name Talbros comes to mind, but I'm not sure.

Just search "Telco Sport" in Google images (Telco Sport is the European export version of the Sierra) and you will see that all the cars have this logo.

@ Saptarshi: I would suggest you remove that logo and keep it safe, since it is rare and hard to find. As condor suggested, get the old logo with the squarish 'T' and put it on, that way even if some prankster removes/breaks it you wont feel the loss, as it can be bought and replaced easily for cheap. Just my 2 paise.

@ kaustubh: Doctor Kamat has been sharpening his knives for you for quite some time. Get ready, you're next...

condor · 11th April 2011, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

It seems some European company making auto parts had a similar logo, which TELCO found out only when they decided to start exporting their cars to Europe.

Sadly, I can't remember the name of the European company, though it is quite famous (I had once come across it in a logo quiz someone sent me).

I am not sure which company it was, but I always thought the logo was similar to that of Sergio Tachhini. But ST is not an auto parts maker.

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OT, but any of you guys have come across a spare Telco / Tata Engg logo ? I would love to have these.
TIA !

11th March 2011, 17:03	#316
Bullitt BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 194 Thanked: 47 Times	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Well, I prefer single color too, but it looks like the owner Saptarshi and sierrakamat have decided to paint glossy black between the 2nd and 3rd lines, leaving the rest in matte.
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11th March 2011, 23:18	#317
Saptarshi B BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 110 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Well I prefer the complete vehicle in a single color too. Just going with sierrakamats suggestion to see how it looks. Can be fixed to complete matt black in no time. The paint job is yet to start on this weekend so I have some time to change my mind.... Suggestions are most welcome !!
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13th March 2011, 23:04	#318
Saptarshi B BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 110 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries WIP Pics of the body work being done. There is some rust behind the headlight and the front bumbers. Part of the floor board had to be replaced too Attached Thumbnails
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13th March 2011, 23:44	#319
sierrakamat BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 246 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries thanks for all the discussions on the second line black and the photoshopping etc BUT ultimately I will decide the colors all you guys are just INCIDENTAL as far as the sierra restoration projects are concerned and DONT you puppies forget THAT. on a more sober note lets wait and see what happens i may paint the bonnet and the strip between the second and third line jet black just to see how she comes up feel the single color of matt black will be too boring (been here done that sort of thingy) Last edited by sierrakamat : 13th March 2011 at 23:46.
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14th March 2011, 14:10	#320
kaustubh_vaze BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 224 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Good going Dr. Kamat. Fast work eh? I believe you are taking a liking to car restorations nowadays. What are your thoughts on visitng Allan and trying to figure out what he thinks about the 4X4 conversion? Regards, Kaustubh
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16th March 2011, 16:02	#321
sierrakamat BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 246 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries vaze buva you are the one who stays at pune i can go to allan within 20 mins you decide let me know any sunday come when bullit wants to do his electricals.
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7th April 2011, 16:37	#322
kaustubh_vaze BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 224 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries @SierraKamat, @Saptarshi - Hows the progress on the car? Please post some WIP/Completed pics of the red Sierra. Regards, Kaustubh
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8th April 2011, 14:09	#323
Saptarshi B BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 110 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Hi Guys, Doc Kamat would have the latest pics. I am attaching some of the older pics so that you can see the transition from the Silver to the new color and see the wip ! This is with the repair work being done. The channel on top of the door has been sealed so no more water dripping in the Monsoon ! Attached Thumbnails
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8th April 2011, 14:30	#324
Saptarshi B BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 110 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Keeping this as a separate to show the next stage of the paint job. This is with the undercoat paint. The final decision (after too much debate - Thanks Doc Kamat for your help on this) was the Dark Mettalic grey color The final coat of paint has been done. I have the photos at home and will post over the weekend. The interiors will be complete by today as well. Attached Thumbnails
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8th April 2011, 16:30	#325
kaustubh_vaze BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 224 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries OY HOY!!! Change of colour from Red to Dark Metallic Grey!!! Looks nice. Is it going to be a single colour or a combination? Good job Saptarshi and Doctor Kamat. If all goes well, (monetarily), u will have my car by end of May. Let me know if atleast the top channels and some emergency work can be done pre-monsoon. Regards, Kaustubh
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9th April 2011, 09:21	#326
sierrakamat BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 246 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries permutations combinations consultations presentations trials and tribulations frustrations and trepidations just fade away when at the end of the day this is what you get. Attached Thumbnails
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11th April 2011, 12:14	#327
kaustubh_vaze BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 224 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Amazing, just amazing Doctor saheb!!! Saptarishi & Bullit - lucky guys...Both your Sierra's look stunning....
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11th April 2011, 12:41	#328
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 16,053 Thanked: 16,390 Times View My Garage	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries One suggestion, though based purely on personal preference. Can you get the old, original Tata logo instead of the one that is there on the grille currently ?
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11th April 2011, 16:40	#329
Bullitt BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 194 Thanked: 47 Times	Re: Tata Sierra Turbo: Queries Finally... I had given up all hopes about this thread, it seemed to have gone into a deep slumber. @ Saptarshi and sierrakamat: Great going guys, the metallic grey looks good. I believe this shade was offered as standard on the Sierra at some point in time. I have seen a few first-gen Sumos too having this color (probably because they would be manufactured during the same time period). @ sierrakamat: As far as I remember, the Sierra from which we salvaged my seats and dashboard (the one that was broken up at Kurla) was of exactly this color. Lets just say Saptarshi's Sierra is a reincarnation of that vehicle. I see you guys followed the same color scheme for the interiors as what was done in my Sierra. Is it the same dotted material? What about the seats? New cushions/covers? @ Saptarshi: Change the headlamps man, they look really tired. Since your car uses the inset rectangular CV-type beams, I think you can go for the new clear-lens type beams found on the latest Tata LPT 1109 EX. They look really good, and clear-lens will give you better visibility and light throw. Heres a picture: @ condor: That logo on the grille is an original and authentic one, and quite a rare one at that. It was created in the mid-nineties when the erstwhile TELCO faced some issues with the original logo. It seems some European company making auto parts had a similar logo, which TELCO found out only when they decided to start exporting their cars to Europe. To avoid confusion in the minds of their European customers, TELCO was forced to go for the change. To make production easier, this new logo was also adopted for the domestic market for a short while. But TELCO reverted back to the old one shortly, possibly to avoid a major re-branding exercise in the domestic market. This logo was then continued only for the European market. Sadly, I can't remember the name of the European company, though it is quite famous (I had once come across it in a logo quiz someone sent me). The name Talbros comes to mind, but I'm not sure. Just search "Telco Sport" in Google images (Telco Sport is the European export version of the Sierra) and you will see that all the cars have this logo. @ Saptarshi: I would suggest you remove that logo and keep it safe, since it is rare and hard to find. As condor suggested, get the old logo with the squarish 'T' and put it on, that way even if some prankster removes/breaks it you wont feel the loss, as it can be bought and replaced easily for cheap. Just my 2 paise. @ kaustubh: Doctor Kamat has been sharpening his knives for you for quite some time. Get ready, you're next... Last edited by Bullitt : 11th April 2011 at 16:44.
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