Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue

gsferrari · 7th February 2011, 14:10

Akaash - this is good to know. Let me reach out to Vijay and get his inputs on this. I would love to straighten it and do the Diff-Lock mod or just keep it as a spare.

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 15:41

You can straighten the tube by taking it to a lathe workshop. Dont do it often though, will break crack then

Gypsy this is a problem, unless the spring and shocks are set right for the torture.

gsferrari · 7th February 2011, 16:10

So should the springs be softer than now or harder than now? I am guessing softer but I am habitually incorrect

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 16:15

Softer will better dampers should take care of it to an extent. But at the end its the driver who will decide things will be broken or bent

gsferrari · 7th February 2011, 16:39

Some pics. Doesn't look that bad here and the bend is quite gentle but it is there. I think this housing can be salvaged and kept as spare with diff-locks installed in another rear carrier.

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 16:42

How about an additional reenforcement over the carrier tube to make it more stronger?

gsferrari · 7th February 2011, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

How about an additional reenforcement over the carrier tube to make it more stronger?

Yes Arka has suggested Axle truss. Looking into this.

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 17:12

Oh darn, they already named my idea!!

Just kidding, new term learned for the day, thank you.

khan_sultan · 7th February 2011, 17:19

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Originally Posted by gsferrari

Yes Arka has suggested Axle truss. Looking into this.

Good idea. Just make sure that welding of the truss doesn't weaken the already-not-so-strong axle tubing. I suggest going to an experienced welder for this.

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 18:14

Yup an experienced Tig welder, was googling saw some truss which can be bolted on. Allen should be able to help you make one of those and avoid welds.

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 7th February 2011, 18:33

^^ Any pics of what we are talking about here?

Spike

Jaggu · 7th February 2011, 18:49

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Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

^^ Any pics of what we are talking about here?

Spike

How many you want Spike? Axle truss - Google Search

gsferrari · 7th February 2011, 19:33

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

Good idea. Just make sure that welding of the truss doesn't weaken the already-not-so-strong axle tubing. I suggest going to an experienced welder for this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Yup an experienced Tig welder, was googling saw some truss which can be bolted on. Allen should be able to help you make one of those and avoid welds.

Does it have to be welded on? Can't it be attached to the axle using U shackles or rings? I am guessing this won't be effective so welding will be necessary.

Anyway will try first with the straightened Banjo and then with the new replacement component. While I am at it I'll request Allan to look into the Anti-Wrap bars.

While all this is going on I'll try to learn throttle control

So much to do!

headers · 7th February 2011, 21:12

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Originally Posted by gsferrari

While all this is going on I'll try to learn throttle control

So much to do!

Not only Throttle Control sir, but also steering handling, holding, approach to a obstacle, pre planning it in the mind, correct selection of the Gear, etc etc..

Sudarshan · 8th February 2011, 07:24

my Landy also has a Banjo type axle housing ,the strengthening is made by the company itself (OE )

here is some clue , you will need to do it very thoughtfully ,It must be proper , not so easy as it looks

the key is the stress needs to be divided properly, otherwise you will create a 'new' weaker spot .

Front Diff

Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue-lrft.jpg

Rear diff

Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue-lrrr.jpg

Sudarshan

7th February 2011, 14:10	#46
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue Akaash - this is good to know. Let me reach out to Vijay and get his inputs on this. I would love to straighten it and do the Diff-Lock mod or just keep it as a spare.
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7th February 2011, 15:41	#47
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue You can straighten the tube by taking it to a lathe workshop. Dont do it often though, will break crack then Gypsy this is a problem, unless the spring and shocks are set right for the torture.
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7th February 2011, 16:10	#48
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue So should the springs be softer than now or harder than now? I am guessing softer but I am habitually incorrect
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7th February 2011, 16:15	#49
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue Softer will better dampers should take care of it to an extent. But at the end its the driver who will decide things will be broken or bent
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7th February 2011, 16:39	#50
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,809 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue Some pics. Doesn't look that bad here and the bend is quite gentle but it is there. I think this housing can be salvaged and kept as spare with diff-locks installed in another rear carrier.
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7th February 2011, 16:42	#51
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue How about an additional reenforcement over the carrier tube to make it more stronger?
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7th February 2011, 17:12	#53
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue Oh darn, they already named my idea!! Just kidding, new term learned for the day, thank you.
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7th February 2011, 18:14	#55
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue Yup an experienced Tig welder, was googling saw some truss which can be bolted on. Allen should be able to help you make one of those and avoid welds.
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7th February 2011, 18:33	#56
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,854 Thanked: 1,532 Times	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue ^^ Any pics of what we are talking about here? Spike
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8th February 2011, 07:24	#60
Sudarshan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 1,200 Thanked: 880 Times View My Garage	Re: Maruti Gypsy MG413W - King Pin Bearing issue my Landy also has a Banjo type axle housing ,the strengthening is made by the company itself (OE ) here is some clue , you will need to do it very thoughtfully ,It must be proper , not so easy as it looks the key is the stress needs to be divided properly, otherwise you will create a 'new' weaker spot . Front Diff Rear diff Sudarshan
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