1972' Land Rover SIII half ton lightweight

ex670c · 11th June 2008, 12:30

Hi Sir Alec,

Nice picture from the manual; from that picture

X- Main gearbox Lever
Y- Transfer Case Lever
Z- Front Wheel Drive Lock Lever i.e Free-Wheeling Hubs

Normally if single axle diff-locks are to be used then the rear axle is locked & loaded.

I think you are confused between free wheeling Hub-Lock and Diff-Lock.

Regards,

Arka

shankar.balan · 11th June 2008, 12:36

SIR ALEC!!!
You are a lucky man!
This is a Fantastic LR Series 3
Superb!
Funny I just received the DVD Landrovers which I had ordered a couple of weeks ago from the UK. And just last night I was watching it - there is a section devoted to this particular beast! I think it came in wheelbase 90 and 108/110 for carrying more stuff.
Lovely!!
I think after this, they made the Light Armoured Truck as well - as per that DVD!
Enjoy your inheritance and let us other Landry enthusiasts eat our hearts out with envy!
And if you want to buy that particular DVD - go onto the website sendit.com and you can order it using your credit card.
Cheers

SirAlec · 11th June 2008, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex670c

Hi Sir Alec,

Nice picture from the manual; from that picture

X- Main gearbox Lever
Y- Transfer Case Lever
Z- Front Wheel Drive Lock Lever i.e Free-Wheeling Hubs

Normally if single axle diff-locks are to be used then the rear axle is locked & loaded.

I think you are confused between free wheeling Hub-Lock and Diff-Lock.

Regards,

Arka

No not confused! As i repair myself as well. Will demo you, i have an extra transmission lying in garage. Will send you the operation manual too sometime later, it a 110mb scanned pdf.
Well all in all i am not an engineer though, in practicality when you depress yellow in mud or slug, power is taken off the wheel that looses traction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

SIR ALEC!!!
You are a lucky man!
This is a Fantastic LR Series 3
Superb!
Funny I just received the DVD Landrovers which I had ordered a couple of weeks ago from the UK. And just last night I was watching it - there is a section devoted to this particular beast!
Lovely!!
I think after this, they made the Light Armoured Truck as well - as per that DVD!
Enjoy your inheritance and let us other Landry enthusiasts eat our hearts out with envy!
Cheers

Thanks!
may i know the DVD title, anyting related to LR, i collect.
thanks again

jacs · 11th June 2008, 16:09

SirAlec, its sturdy tank. Reminds me of the African Safari videos....

DKG · 11th June 2008, 16:22

Try a simple test, place jacks (in a way they tip over easily when the car moves forward) to lift both front and rear right wheels into the air. Technically with diff locks disengaged the car should be unable to move whether its in 4wd or 2wd. Now with either the front or the rear diff lock engaged it should move forward

SirAlec · 11th June 2008, 19:27

haven't tried but knew the trick.
you don't need to lift front and rear, just jack up the front, use a stone or something at rear tyre, engage the difflock, Try and spin the wheel that is up in the air. It should not spin if the diff lock with engaged.
we can try the same with rear tyre, but if front works the rear will work as well.

DKG · 11th June 2008, 21:33

SirAlec the link you posted is very informative. There's a wonderful writeup about your series. Apparently they were lightened specifically to be airlifted with choppers and transported. Very interesting!

I should also think that being lighter your vehicle would be more effective offroad compared to the standard LR, provided the engine is the same

SirAlec · 11th June 2008, 22:07

yeah! but during monsoon we add the hard top. It has very neat looking soft top.
yeah it has the same engine, but a different GB.

you know we had a mahindra voyager once, when it fell sideway in a nala, we used this with bags of cement attached to bonnet and rear, to pull it out. so you can imagine the power.

Sankar · 11th June 2008, 22:08

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Originally Posted by v12

Very nice LR, Sir Alec. How come 2 diff regn numbers on the front?

It says "Paschim Bengal" followed by the numbers

shankar.balan · 12th June 2008, 09:59

Sure Man
I also like to collect things to do with Landrover - all time favourite marque. However, unlike you who has the real thing,I only own scale models at the moment and some other oddments and small time memorabilia collected over the years.
I wish I could also one day own a Defender 90 (Wolf) - I would love to realize that dream.

The DVD is called LANDROVERS
DVD Format Region 2 (UK)
Cat No 94044 Delta Music Plc
I bought it via Sendit.com - Buy DVDs, Games & Electronics - FREE UK & Ireland Delivery
Cost about 5GBP plus shipping by Royal Mail. about 9-10 gbp landed cost door delivery india
You can check that website- they ve got a few other interesting Landrover titles like The Best of British - Land Rover, The essential guide to off roading from Land Rover, The History of Land Rover etc etc

also check Amazon - you can get some great Landry stuff like the original Chilton's Manual and all that!

also you may want to check the website - The Dunsfold Collection - the worlds largest collection of land rovers! Dunsfold Land Rover Collection

Have fun!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirAlec

Thanks!
may i know the DVD title, anyting related to LR, i collect.
thanks again

SirAlec · 12th June 2008, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

Sure Man
I also like to collect things to do with Landrover - all time favourite marque. However, unlike you who has the real thing,I only own scale models at the moment and some other oddments and small time memorabilia collected over the years.
I wish I could also one day own a Defender 90 (Wolf) - I would love to realize that dream.

The DVD is called LANDROVERS
DVD Format Region 2 (UK)
Cat No 94044 Delta Music Plc
I bought it via Sendit.com - Buy DVDs, Games & Electronics - FREE UK & Ireland Delivery
Cost about 5GBP plus shipping by Royal Mail. about 9-10 gbp landed cost door delivery india
You can check that website- they ve got a few other interesting Landrover titles like The Best of British - Land Rover, The essential guide to off roading from Land Rover, The History of Land Rover etc etc

also check Amazon - you can get some great Landry stuff like the original Chilton's Manual and all that!

also you may want to check the website - The Dunsfold Collection - the worlds largest collection of land rovers! Dunsfold Land Rover Collection

Have fun!

Thanks for the info. You may be able to own defender, TATA has plans to make it right here.

Dunsfold collection is one of largest, have you checked there unpainted, polished alumunium model. Its one of a kind.

jyobeb · 12th June 2008, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKG

Excuse my ignorance but I thought the new 110 came in both swb and lwb? What series is the Defender, is that not a 110?

A lot of us have heard and so much about Landrovers. Perhaps you could give us a short history of the marque with different models and important technical improvements. Coupled with pictures of your car it would make for great reading

As far as I know, the 90, 110 and 130 all denote wheelbase in inches.

DKG · 13th June 2008, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyobeb

As far as I know, the 90, 110 and 130 all denote wheelbase in inches.

Makes sense. So the Defender is on the 90 inch wheelbase?

jyobeb · 13th June 2008, 17:45

All three though the 130 is relatively rare. I use my partners 110 fairly often. Incredible off roader.

islero · 13th June 2008, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKG

Makes sense. So the Defender is on the 90 inch wheelbase?

The present defender comes in 3 door 90, and 5 door 110 configuration in civilian use.

Also offered are soft top option on the 90, and pickup option on both wheelbases.

The commercial and army Defenders come in different body combinations on both long and short wheelbases.

As for the series models,

Series I was offered in 80, 86, 88, 107, and 109

Series II, IIA and III came in 88 and 109 inch.

Experts please correct me if I am wrong.

11th June 2008, 12:30	#16
ex670c Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,470 Thanked: 2,170 Times View My Garage	Front Wheel Drive Lock vs Diff-Lock Hi Sir Alec, Nice picture from the manual; from that picture X- Main gearbox Lever Y- Transfer Case Lever Z- Front Wheel Drive Lock Lever i.e Free-Wheeling Hubs Normally if single axle diff-locks are to be used then the rear axle is locked & loaded. I think you are confused between free wheeling Hub-Lock and Diff-Lock. Regards, Arka
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11th June 2008, 12:36	#17
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,797 Thanked: 27,253 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	SIR ALEC!!! You are a lucky man! This is a Fantastic LR Series 3 Superb! Funny I just received the DVD Landrovers which I had ordered a couple of weeks ago from the UK. And just last night I was watching it - there is a section devoted to this particular beast! I think it came in wheelbase 90 and 108/110 for carrying more stuff. Lovely!! I think after this, they made the Light Armoured Truck as well - as per that DVD! Enjoy your inheritance and let us other Landry enthusiasts eat our hearts out with envy! And if you want to buy that particular DVD - go onto the website sendit.com and you can order it using your credit card. Cheers Last edited by shankar.balan : 11th June 2008 at 12:38.
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11th June 2008, 16:09	#19
jacs Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 1,499 Thanked: 1,047 Times View My Garage	SirAlec, its sturdy tank. Reminds me of the African Safari videos....
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11th June 2008, 16:22	#20
DKG Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,725 Thanked: 1,659 Times View My Garage	Try a simple test, place jacks (in a way they tip over easily when the car moves forward) to lift both front and rear right wheels into the air. Technically with diff locks disengaged the car should be unable to move whether its in 4wd or 2wd. Now with either the front or the rear diff lock engaged it should move forward
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11th June 2008, 19:27	#21
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 727 Times	haven't tried but knew the trick. you don't need to lift front and rear, just jack up the front, use a stone or something at rear tyre, engage the difflock, Try and spin the wheel that is up in the air. It should not spin if the diff lock with engaged. we can try the same with rear tyre, but if front works the rear will work as well.
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11th June 2008, 21:33	#22
DKG Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 3,725 Thanked: 1,659 Times View My Garage	SirAlec the link you posted is very informative. There's a wonderful writeup about your series. Apparently they were lightened specifically to be airlifted with choppers and transported. Very interesting! I should also think that being lighter your vehicle would be more effective offroad compared to the standard LR, provided the engine is the same Last edited by DKG : 11th June 2008 at 21:35.
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11th June 2008, 22:07	#23
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 727 Times	yeah! but during monsoon we add the hard top. It has very neat looking soft top. yeah it has the same engine, but a different GB. you know we had a mahindra voyager once, when it fell sideway in a nala, we used this with bags of cement attached to bonnet and rear, to pull it out. so you can imagine the power.
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13th June 2008, 17:45	#29
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,009 Thanked: 705 Times	All three though the 130 is relatively rare. I use my partners 110 fairly often. Incredible off roader. Last edited by jyobeb : 13th June 2008 at 17:49.
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