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Originally Posted by Spitfire I am no fanboy but believe in VFM(hard earned money) and Bolero when bought in 2004, it was VFM redefined.
So one did run over your toes then.. thats what i was looking for. Does it still hurt? Looking at your posts above it does |
VFM!! What does VFM got to do with offroading, we are discussing offroading pal!
Learn to point out flaws in the vehicle you own, going gaga about Bolero doesn't reflect good on ones personality. For God's sakes try out some modern vehicle apart from Classic/Bolero, to come to terms with modern times.
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Originally Posted by whitemm550 hey hey, looks like a classic case of sour grapes |
"Sour"! They better be, who wants an old slouch anyways!
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Originally Posted by vinod_nookala Well the feedback M&M and others have it is there is no demand for intermediary 4x4. Bolero VLX 4x4 will never be made as it is already in Scorpio Territory and shares virtues of scorpio with a different body. |
That's the whole point, why are we stuck on VLX, it does not belong to 4x4 section!
Why not an Invader for offroading needs, its got the same engine as the Bolero! It has the same credentials, but people are vocal about its looks & lack of creature comforts, then why not listen to shortcomings about Bolero!
Grow up people, every vehicle comes with downsides & Bolero has loads of them, why are you afraid to share some!
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Originally Posted by The Wolf Dear sir, why would you call a bolero crude and ergonomic disaster? The gypsy you are comparing it with is not only more cruder but its got a reputation of being the spine splitter when it comes to ride quality. Further more, jypsy doesnt even have ergonomics to be compared with a Bolero. Could you kindly clarify as to which how you claim a jypsy to be more refined and ergonomically better than a bolero pls? Touching upon a Bolero being a slouch, I request you to drive the new crde and imagine a 4x4 on it to further this dialog. Just to add a quick bit, the bolero crde had more than 40% more power and 120% more torque in comparison to jypsy...kindly take note of that. |
Gypsy is far more user friendly than a Bolero, ride is bad but its an offroader!
Again the VLX we are talking about doesn't come in 4x4 guise, so why all the sweat!
Besides, a Gypsy can easily show clean pair of heels to the VLX too!
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Originally Posted by Ashley Nair With due respect BHP1,since you have made fun of many true and ardent Jeep fans in this forum in a manner that can be even termed as uncivil, may I ask you whether you have ever driven a Bolero, DI or XD3P or CRDI?
If you have and still you find it uninspiring, then you don't belong to this forums for Jeeps and 4x4s. If you want an ergonomic marvel, go for the camry or Superb.If you want a flying machine go for the Skoda RS or Accord.
And remember, if "a 20 year old piece of history" as you put it, is selling more than it's modern competitors, there will be some reason behind it for sure , isn't it? They say that a page of history is worth a volume of logic.... |
I've not made fun of anyone, rather just pointed out shortcomings of Bolero. I've driven Bolero countless no. of times & witnessed its numerous weaknesses. Its a cheap people hauler, worth for the rural folk who would be packing in 7-10 most of the time & driving on bad roads.
Do you consider Bolero to be India's numero uno effort towards Offroaders? If yes, you are highly mistaken & overrating a vehicle by a huge margin.
I can see Bolero as a people hauler with some offroad capability & poor engine, bodyshell, interiors, ergonomics, etc but never the less a VFM buy for the ones who are interested.
Selling in numbers does not signify being the best! Its selling because its fulfilling aspirations of rural folf in carrying people.