Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option

offroad_maniac · 20th January 2011, 19:38

Why not keep it DI but with a bit of increased torque. (If possible)

Why CRDe for 4WD again.
I mean if it really comes with CRDe then again Thar Bashing will start... saying CRDe is not easy on maintenance, ECU gets damaged, Not repairable at roadside garage etc etc.

Yet to see any DI 4WD TD report or any real news.

BTW this is still a dream:

Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option-tharffa.jpg

Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option-mmt4.jpg

CRDe,
4WD,
NGCS,
57/53" Solid axles (with FFRA)

BTW does anyone knows where this Thar will be now?
(& How many such Concept Thars were made)

mpuri · 20th January 2011, 23:06

Hi guys! Any idea about when M&M is planning to launch 'Thar's Adventure' version in India(Delhi)??

cpbopanna · 20th January 2011, 23:32

Hi All, The Bolero has a DI Turbo Engine which I assume is Bharat Stage 4 compliant (since it's being sold in the Metros). How different is the Bolero engine from the engine in Thar DI?

jeepster · 21st January 2011, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpuri

Hi guys! Any idea about when M&M is planning to launch 'Thar's Adventure' version in India(Delhi)??

it will not be launched any where.

its a one off designed vehicle modified my mahindra itself on the demand & need of customer.

first buy a mahindra vehicle & then contact Welcome to Mahindracustomisation.com .

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpbopanna

Hi All, The Bolero has a DI Turbo Engine which I assume is Bharat Stage 4 compliant (since it's being sold in the Metros). How different is the Bolero engine from the engine in Thar DI?

AFAIK the DI is not BS4 complaint.

& the Thar DI engine is same as bolero DI engine.

the MDI 3200 TC

4x4addict · 21st January 2011, 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpbopanna

Hi All, The Bolero has a DI Turbo Engine which I assume is Bharat Stage 4 compliant (since it's being sold in the Metros). How different is the Bolero engine from the engine in Thar DI?

In metros the only Bolero you can register properly is the Bolero Storm CRDe. The DI Turbo is only BSIII so if you buy in metro you have to show *address proof* and register outside the city limits.

headers · 21st January 2011, 11:09

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Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Correct, the position of steering column (center line) is offset towards the left w.r.t the seat center line, this distance is 70.8 mm and is a perennial case, be it Bolero, Invader, Thar MDI or Thar CRDe.

Spike

Why the kink spike? Can't the team at M&M re-engineer this odd steering position?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

The TRUE criteria or test of a great motor is how it sounds.
The Tata 3.0L found in many Sumos is the clear winner here followed ..

The Tata 3.0L is a true torque monster in 2WD form. Noisy but thats DI

DD: Great explanation of your conversion. Whats your reliability stakes now?

The THAR MDI, seems to have the DI turbo engine. This is the same engine as the ones found in the BOLERO SLX/SLE

cool_dube · 21st January 2011, 12:57

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

The DI Turbo is only BSIII so if you buy in metro you have to show *address proof* and register outside the city limits.

Funny how we make rules in India which are impractical to enforce and *always* have workaround/loopholes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by headers

Can't the team at M&M re-engineer this odd steering position?

This is precisely what I asked one of the senior technicians in an M&M service center long back. He just grinned and said - 'That is how it is'. I did not face this issue with my Classic although it was there in my Invader and Bolero Sportz!! Any idea if this is the case with export models as well?

MileCruncher · 21st January 2011, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

In metros the only Bolero you can register properly is the Bolero Storm CRDe. The DI Turbo is only BSIII so if you buy in metro you have to show *address proof* and register outside the city limits.

The Bolero DI is getting registered in Hyderabad and I think I saw a BS-IV sticker also on one of them. May be they would have upgraded it considering the volumes it sells.

4x4addict · 21st January 2011, 13:48

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Originally Posted by MileCruncher

The Bolero DI is getting registered in Hyderabad and I think I saw a BS-IV sticker also on one of them. May be they would have upgraded it considering the volumes it sells.

Let us not speculate. Call the dealer...

The Wolf · 21st January 2011, 14:02

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Originally Posted by cool_dube

Funny how we make rules in India which are impractical to enforce and *always* have workaround/loopholes.

Very well said!!!

About the BSIII and BSIV confusion, there is no BSIV version of the Di in Bangalore with complete certainty. Im in touch with 3 different dealers on this. I will be booking my Thar in the first week of Feb '11 so ensuring that I keep all the dealers close to my heart for good reasons

Rajith · 21st January 2011, 14:29

Friends,
Please find the below pictures of BS 1V test vehicle with DI engine spotted at India garage service centre on Date/Time : 2010:11:06 11:08:13.No idea wether the test was succesfull/launched.This was inline with Delphi team.

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 21st January 2011, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by MileCruncher

The Bolero DI is getting registered in Hyderabad and I think I saw a BS-IV sticker also on one of them. May be they would have upgraded it considering the volumes it sells.

Are you sure on this

? Who is the dealer BTW?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajith

Friends,
Please find the below pictures of BS 1V test vehicle with DI engine spotted at India garage service. No idea wether the test was succesfull/launched.This was inline with Delphi team.

Spike

svsantosh · 21st January 2011, 16:31

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Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Allo Rave saare...!! What does that

mean? Should we wait? Or go ahead with the BS3?

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 21st January 2011, 16:51

The BS- IV shown in pics is of a Scorpio, so please don't speculate anything now.

Spike

PS- Starting April 2012 a few norms will come into place which will prove critical for sale of many vehicles in M1 and N1 category. It is not related to emissions but something else.

Jaggu · 21st January 2011, 17:04

Are you referring to FE ^^^?

20th January 2011, 19:38	#61
offroad_maniac BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Thane-Mumbai Posts: 492 Thanked: 154 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option Why not keep it DI but with a bit of increased torque. (If possible) Why CRDe for 4WD again. I mean if it really comes with CRDe then again Thar Bashing will start... saying CRDe is not easy on maintenance, ECU gets damaged, Not repairable at roadside garage etc etc. Yet to see any DI 4WD TD report or any real news. BTW this is still a dream: CRDe, 4WD, NGCS, 57/53" Solid axles (with FFRA) BTW does anyone knows where this Thar will be now? (& How many such Concept Thars were made) Last edited by offroad_maniac : 20th January 2011 at 19:40.
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20th January 2011, 23:06	#62
mpuri Newbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 17 Thanked: 21 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option Hi guys! Any idea about when M&M is planning to launch 'Thar's Adventure' version in India(Delhi)??
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cpbopanna BHPian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 594 Thanked: 947 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option Hi All, The Bolero has a DI Turbo Engine which I assume is Bharat Stage 4 compliant (since it's being sold in the Metros). How different is the Bolero engine from the engine in Thar DI?
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Rajith BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 655 Thanked: 724 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option Friends, Please find the below pictures of BS 1V test vehicle with DI engine spotted at India garage service centre on Date/Time : 2010:11:06 11:08:13.No idea wether the test was succesfull/launched.This was inline with Delphi team. Attached Thumbnails
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21st January 2011, 16:51	#74
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,854 Thanked: 1,532 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option The BS- IV shown in pics is of a Scorpio, so please don't speculate anything now. Spike PS- Starting April 2012 a few norms will come into place which will prove critical for sale of many vehicles in M1 and N1 category. It is not related to emissions but something else.
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21st January 2011, 17:04	#75
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Re: Offroading with Thar DI: The Sensible Option Are you referring to FE ^^^?
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