Time to upgrade my car audio

Sam Kapasi · 24th February 2006, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Bass is not meant to be heard.

Spoken like a true purist.

But for a basshead, like amit, the definition of bass is sheer thumping underwear-shaking boommmmmmmmmm baaammmmmm booommm rummmble. Thats the best part about car audio, you can be proud of the fact that your car shakes to the chassis-bone and "audio purity" has NOTHING to do with it and it is fun fun funnn!!!

navin · 25th February 2006, 11:32

I get a headache when I listen to an overly bassy system. I guess Amit would get a headache if he listened to my system (or he'd ask Where's the Bass?).

amit_sound · 25th February 2006, 21:38

baap log!! you people are not understanding me... I am not the kind of person who loves to listen music at high volume all the time.. And i hate hate hate hate low quality sound...

It is just that i want a power pact system in the boot of the car, of which i would be proud of and my be once in a blue moon listen to it at a bit high volume.

Again , i hate music system that sounds ugly and definitely looking for a sound systems that sounds "SWEET"....

Vivekphadnis · 26th February 2006, 12:10

Amit, it is rather difficult to get a system to sound sweet when you have two 10 inch subs blasting away. You either have a system for sound pressure level or sound quality. You need to decide what you want.

rsjaurr · 26th February 2006, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

Amit, it is rather difficult to get a system to sound sweet when you have two 10 inch subs blasting away. You either have a system for sound pressure level or sound quality. You need to decide what you want.

cant agree more with vivek.Its either SQ or SPL.Now that depends upon what gunbir wrote just few days back.
Amit u shud go for quality stuff rather than quantity.

navin · 27th February 2006, 10:30

One can have SQL but at high SPLs too many other parts of the car start making sounds too and unless that is damped one does not get music. So after a certain level I would say that the car needs some serious attention - damping, custom pods, leather work, etc... or the system will excite parts that are not supposed to be making sound.

amit_sound · 27th February 2006, 19:04

ya navin ji, i agree with you. How much does it cost to get the damping done? like damping only the boot of the car

navin · 28th February 2006, 09:46

check the prices of dynamat. good damping is not exactly cheap unless you are willing to DIY.

Vivekphadnis · 28th February 2006, 13:19

What would one use for DIY? Polyfibre?

I think Wurth is cheaper than Dynamat. McLaren used Wurth I think. Ask him.

navin · 28th February 2006, 13:44

I've used polyfil and dacron.

amit_sound · 1st March 2006, 12:22

ok, now going the team-bmp way. I am giving you people my budget, so please post your suggestions.

I am willing to spend 30000Rs. Suggest me any monoblock amplifier and any subwoofer(s) to go along with it.

Make it such that ,sub + amp = 30000

navin · 1st March 2006, 14:02

Easy solution: Take the 300.1 for 10K and add 2 JBL 1200B for 20K. that is if you want 2 subs. If you want only one sub thake the 600.1 for 20K and add one 1200B for 10K.

Bass Head solution: Take a 75.4 for 14K. Add 2 GT4-15 for 13K. Add big woofer box for 3K now even a golf bag wont fit in the trunk. Now that will satisfy any bass head.

mclaren1885 · 1st March 2006, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivekphadnis

What would one use for DIY? Polyfibre?

I think Wurth is cheaper than Dynamat. McLaren used Wurth I think. Ask him.

Each wurth damping sheets cost me 800 bucks .. Needed 4 of them for the zen..

amit_sound · 3rd March 2006, 11:58

Hi, i have a doubt about subwoofers.

Consider that two subwoofers and the same spec (i.e. RMS, db, frequency response.....) but the difference is only in the size i.e 15" and 12". Does it make any difference in the bass due the size of the woofer? If yes, how?

Thanks

navin · 3rd March 2006, 17:36

15": Sd=450cm2
12" Sd= 330cm2

Bass is a function of moving air. if all other specs are the same (Mms, Cms, Xmax, Qts, Fs, Vas, etc...) then the 15" will move 30% more air and will be able to deliver a few extra db of SPL.

25th February 2006, 11:32	#32
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	I get a headache when I listen to an overly bassy system. I guess Amit would get a headache if he listened to my system (or he'd ask Where's the Bass?).
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25th February 2006, 21:38	#33
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	baap log!! you people are not understanding me... I am not the kind of person who loves to listen music at high volume all the time.. And i hate hate hate hate low quality sound... It is just that i want a power pact system in the boot of the car, of which i would be proud of and my be once in a blue moon listen to it at a bit high volume. Again , i hate music system that sounds ugly and definitely looking for a sound systems that sounds "SWEET"....
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26th February 2006, 12:10	#34
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	Amit, it is rather difficult to get a system to sound sweet when you have two 10 inch subs blasting away. You either have a system for sound pressure level or sound quality. You need to decide what you want.
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27th February 2006, 10:30	#36
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	One can have SQL but at high SPLs too many other parts of the car start making sounds too and unless that is damped one does not get music. So after a certain level I would say that the car needs some serious attention - damping, custom pods, leather work, etc... or the system will excite parts that are not supposed to be making sound.
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27th February 2006, 19:04	#37
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	ya navin ji, i agree with you. How much does it cost to get the damping done? like damping only the boot of the car
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28th February 2006, 09:46	#38
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	check the prices of dynamat. good damping is not exactly cheap unless you are willing to DIY. Last edited by navin : 28th February 2006 at 09:51.
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28th February 2006, 13:19	#39
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	What would one use for DIY? Polyfibre? I think Wurth is cheaper than Dynamat. McLaren used Wurth I think. Ask him. Last edited by Vivekphadnis : 28th February 2006 at 13:20.
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28th February 2006, 13:44	#40
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	I've used polyfil and dacron.
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1st March 2006, 12:22	#41
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	ok, now going the team-bmp way. I am giving you people my budget, so please post your suggestions. I am willing to spend 30000Rs. Suggest me any monoblock amplifier and any subwoofer(s) to go along with it. Make it such that ,sub + amp = 30000
	() Thanks

1st March 2006, 14:02	#42
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	Easy solution: Take the 300.1 for 10K and add 2 JBL 1200B for 20K. that is if you want 2 subs. If you want only one sub thake the 600.1 for 20K and add one 1200B for 10K. Bass Head solution: Take a 75.4 for 14K. Add 2 GT4-15 for 13K. Add big woofer box for 3K now even a golf bag wont fit in the trunk. Now that will satisfy any bass head.
	() Thanks

3rd March 2006, 11:58	#44
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	Hi, i have a doubt about subwoofers. Consider that two subwoofers and the same spec (i.e. RMS, db, frequency response.....) but the difference is only in the size i.e 15" and 12". Does it make any difference in the bass due the size of the woofer? If yes, how? Thanks
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3rd March 2006, 17:36	#45
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,409 Thanked: 9,957 Times	15": Sd=450cm2 12" Sd= 330cm2 Bass is a function of moving air. if all other specs are the same (Mms, Cms, Xmax, Qts, Fs, Vas, etc...) then the 15" will move 30% more air and will be able to deliver a few extra db of SPL.
	() Thanks