Good SPL Sound

low_bass_makker · 26th February 2007, 12:35

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Originally Posted by navin

The cheapest would be a pair of Pio 306c in a 2.5-3 cu. ft. sealed box (wide as the car about 3 ft x 12-18" tall x 12" deep) powered by a D510. Should cost you about 25K with damping and wires. The Sky is the limit.

a pair of 306C (single Voice coil) wired parllel to get 2 ohms ...wired to a d510 giving them 500 watts to both of them would get quite loud.....and would cost quite lesss

amp -> 11k
subs -> 3.5+3.5=7k
box -> 2k

20k total.....

esteem_lover · 26th February 2007, 12:45

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

I think he will take a month to get back as he is a member since aug 2006 and only 3 posts...with a gap of month in between so I think he will be back in mid march with the budget......

absolutely right, LBM. i hope we can suggest about 300 different kinds of setups for him before that.

navin · 26th February 2007, 13:43

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

a pair of 306C (single Voice coil) wired parllel to get 2 ohms ...wired to a d510 giving them 500 watts to both of them would get quite loud.....and would cost quite lesss

amp -> 11k
subs -> 3.5+3.5=7k
box -> 2k

20k total.....

LBm you forgot I recommended spending 20% on damping and wires. 20% of 25K is 5K. 20K on amp, sub and box.

low_bass_makker · 26th February 2007, 17:00

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Originally Posted by navin

LBm you forgot I recommended spending 20% on damping and wires. 20% of 25K is 5K. 20K on amp, sub and box.

yes sir

one more option he can get the MRD-M1005 Amplifier instead of the d510.....it will give 500 watts to each sub to extract from them fully.....

Jas6789 · 26th February 2007, 17:05

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

I think he will take a month to get back as he is a member since aug 2006 and only 3 posts...with a gap of month in between so I think he will be back in mid march with the budget......

Sir Ji my budget is only 30k and many a times i am surfing the site without logging in

... Idea of 2 x 306 is better ,please gimme some more details and installer.. i already have a hu.

blueraven316 · 26th February 2007, 20:18

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Originally Posted by gunbir

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That looks more like a landmine or some outer space probe like the ones that come flying in Matrix, LOL

Okay end of kidding, sub looks Hott and am sure will perform great too !

esteem_lover · 26th February 2007, 21:08

Guys, lets get back on track & help jas6789 since he is back.

How about a monster tube instead of 2 subs ??

blueraven316 · 26th February 2007, 21:22

Tubes just boom, they dont generate that much raw SPL, in his budget the best thing is the Pio Subs, reasonable and very loud for the price. The amp Deparment he should be looking for a Sony XMSD61X mono amp in Grey.

@Jas6789 30k is the total budget or just for amp and sub ?

gunbir · 26th February 2007, 23:16

Jas, I agree with everyone that suggested the Pio subs for budget SPL. But I definitely suggest you buy LBM's Alpine mono and give those subs some serious juice. The Alpine is way better than the any new mono you will get in your budget.

blueraven316 · 26th February 2007, 23:24

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Originally Posted by gunbir

Jas, I agree with everyone that suggested the Pio subs for budget SPL. But I definitely suggest you buy LBM's Alpine mono and give those subs some serious juice. The Alpine is way better than the any new mono you will get in your budget.

That is one awesome amp, and really strong and good sounding product.

navin · 27th February 2007, 10:37

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Originally Posted by gunbir

Jas, ...The Alpine is way better than the any new mono you will get in your budget.

Yes but does it sell for less than 15K. He needs 9-10K for woofer and box and 5-6K for damping and wires.

low_bass_makker · 27th February 2007, 10:55

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Originally Posted by navin

Yes but does it sell for less than 15K. He needs 9-10K for woofer and box and 5-6K for damping and wires.

Kya Navin Ji here at ICE forum we are great in breaking people budget....so why cant he increase a bit more.....jas are you listing.....So PM me if you are interested.....I will give you a good deal.....

Jas6789 · 27th February 2007, 11:04

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Originally Posted by blueraven316

Tubes just boom, they dont generate that much raw SPL, in his budget the best thing is the Pio Subs, reasonable and very loud for the price. The amp Deparment he should be looking for a Sony XMSD61X mono amp in Grey.

@Jas6789 30k is the total budget or just for amp and sub ?

Sir ji 30k is for sub,amp,install etc.what is a diffrence between a sub in a box and a tube.

navin · 27th February 2007, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Jas6789

Sir ji 30k is for sub,amp,install etc.what is a diffrence between a sub in a box and a tube.

in most caes a sub in a box will

a) need more power
b) produce lower levels of bass
c) produce better defined bass and less BOOM

In short if you like Jazz, Rock, etc.. get a box. If you want to wake the neighbours get a Tube or even a Free Air sub.

blueraven316 · 27th February 2007, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Jas6789

Sir ji 30k is for sub,amp,install etc.what is a diffrence between a sub in a box and a tube.

A Ported Box is the best option for an SPL setup, a Bass tube will not suffice, especially since you looking for a double sub setup with Pioneer subs.
30k is decent enough for a pair of pio subs and amp with wiring. Pioneer subs are mostly sold in Grey, so, you would shell a max of 5k per sub. Keep 5k aside for wiring etc. Ask LBM for a deal on the MRD amp, if you can get your hands on that, nothing like it. Else a Sony XMSD61X works good for that pair of subs which again is not available officially in India. If you pick up the Alpine amp then have either LBM, Gunbir or Jasdeep tune it for you as anyone inexperienced will not do justice to the amp and Pio subs are notorius for blowing up too with good power, and tht alpine churns out more than good power. So all the best

26th February 2007, 21:08	#22
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	Guys, lets get back on track & help jas6789 since he is back. How about a monster tube instead of 2 subs ??
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26th February 2007, 21:22	#23
blueraven316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,110 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Tubes just boom, they dont generate that much raw SPL, in his budget the best thing is the Pio Subs, reasonable and very loud for the price. The amp Deparment he should be looking for a Sony XMSD61X mono amp in Grey. @Jas6789 30k is the total budget or just for amp and sub ?
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26th February 2007, 23:16	#24
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 32 Times	Jas, I agree with everyone that suggested the Pio subs for budget SPL. But I definitely suggest you buy LBM's Alpine mono and give those subs some serious juice. The Alpine is way better than the any new mono you will get in your budget.
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