Carputer and ICE Installation : Swift

ghpk · 10th July 2009, 17:48

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Originally Posted by srikant

Guys me and my friends are planning to install a carputer for my friends swift petrol. I have some questions on that.
1. Can we use his existing desktop for the project?
2. The existing SMPS shows 400 watts, isn't it on the higher side for carputer?
3. What modification should i do to drive the desktop CPU from car and what change should be made to SMPS?

Thanks
Srikant

You'll Need a DC - DC power supply to run a PC in Car.

Modifying a AC SMPS to fit and serve a carputer is a Horrible Idea, cause it will not work the way DC-DC Power supply are designed.

You can use your desktop pc, but it will have multiple drawbacks
Size, Power consumption etc

gigy · 10th July 2009, 18:16

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Originally Posted by nisarg86

GIGY. it is ON/OFF switch. have connected it directly to battery's + and -
It is the master power switch to on the PC.

As everybody pointed out two big pins are for "+" in from battery and "+" out to load. those two are not interchangeable. a smaller one will be for led "-".
A desktop pc can be used with a DC-DC psu if you make sufficient space available. A 2.5 hard disk is more shock proof. a solid state one is recommended. dont use smps, i have wasted lot of time and money on it, not practical.

DerAlte · 10th July 2009, 18:17

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Originally Posted by srikant

Guys me and my friends are planning to install a carputer for my friends swift petrol. I have some questions on that.
1. Can we use his existing desktop for the project? ...

A desktop PC will not be energy-efficient when used in a car, though it will definitely work the way it is supposed to. The SMPS rating is an indicative maximum, but need not consume that all the time. The easiest would be to minimise the hardware complement - throw out anything and everything that is not necessary

* get a car inverter of moderate rating to drive it OR
* modify the SMPS to accept 12V as input, instead of the usual 230V (this is not a simple modification) OR
* buy a higher power DC-DC converter for use in the car

nisarg86 · 11th July 2009, 00:08

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Originally Posted by ghpk

I am sure the "+ve and -ve" are going into switch only for L.E.D.

The circuit which switch will ON/OFF will have only one wire i.e. +ve.

there should be only two Large Points (connectors) on the switch which will toggle connectivity with switch position on/off.

EDIT: How many pins you have at the back of switch ?

If it has 3 in all, 2 goes to LED (+ve and -ve )and one goes to output taking current from One Terminal shared from L.E.D.

Yes . it has 3 pins on the switch.

gigy · 11th July 2009, 00:27

Since led is working you have got two pins connected right. the third one remaining will power the pc.

nisarg86 · 11th July 2009, 00:29

yes. 2 pins connected.
and 3rd one should be connection to ignition wire ? right ?

gigy · 11th July 2009, 00:52

One "+" is connected to battery (must go through a fuse). second "-"one is grounded to car body. Led is glowing when switched on now.
The third pin of switch is to be connected to hot "+" pin of PSU(dc-dc power supply) to make it the master on/off switch for carputer.

ghpk · 11th July 2009, 08:46

Gigy got it exactly what i was trying to say.

nisarg86 · 11th July 2009, 09:06

thanx ghpk and gigy. will post the pic.

srikant · 11th July 2009, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigy

As everybody pointed out two big pins are for "+" in from battery and "+" out to load. those two are not interchangeable. a smaller one will be for led "-".
A desktop pc can be used with a DC-DC psu if you make sufficient space available. A 2.5 hard disk is more shock proof. a solid state one is recommended. dont use smps, i have wasted lot of time and money on it, not practical.

What alternative can i use for SMPS in the CPU?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

A desktop PC will not be energy-efficient when used in a car, though it will definitely work the way it is supposed to. The SMPS rating is an indicative maximum, but need not consume that all the time. The easiest would be to minimise the hardware complement - throw out anything and everything that is not necessary

* get a car inverter of moderate rating to drive it OR
* modify the SMPS to accept 12V as input, instead of the usual 230V (this is not a simple modification) OR
* buy a higher power DC-DC converter for use in the car

I did plan for a car inverter and have ordered for a 300 watts Axiom car inverter. Things are just in planning stage as of now. Looking out for alternatives too. Any suggestions are welcome.

I am not an expert in Electrical and electronics. So would be great if someone could explain the procedure.

Thanks

Sri

gigy · 13th July 2009, 03:52

A touch screen and a dc-dc psu are a must for trouble free integration to car. you can look at dual core atom for 5k in miniitx form.Put in a list of items you have presently, it will help in planning.

nisarg86 · 21st July 2009, 17:59

New location of my GPS. Locked the position quite fast now.

kiran1103 · 29th July 2009, 11:48

Nice.. Whats the GPS receiver make and model. Also did u integrate it with CF2.0 or had to load different maps specific to India?

nisarg86 · 29th July 2009, 22:58

Kiran. GPS Receiver is GlobalSAt BU-353. And yes i have purchased the Satguide Map.
all you have to do is copy the Map Folder into CF Dir. and load the MAP in CF.

kiran1103 · 29th July 2009, 23:23

Thanks Nisarg. Now is there any way that I can use the GPS receiver of Nokia N97/iPhone 3G/Blackberry Bold.

All of them have Bluetooth but its the question of using their receiver to transmit the data to the Car PC. Also I understand that it will drain the battery at an alarming rate.

btw I see the GlobalSat BY-353 is available for approx 3k. Hope its the right price?

11th July 2009, 00:27	#110
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	Since led is working you have got two pins connected right. the third one remaining will power the pc.
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nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 392 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	yes. 2 pins connected. and 3rd one should be connection to ignition wire ? right ?
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11th July 2009, 00:52	#112
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	One "+" is connected to battery (must go through a fuse). second "-"one is grounded to car body. Led is glowing when switched on now. The third pin of switch is to be connected to hot "+" pin of PSU(dc-dc power supply) to make it the master on/off switch for carputer.
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11th July 2009, 08:46	#113
ghpk BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 872 Thanked: 212 Times	Gigy got it exactly what i was trying to say.
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nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 392 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	thanx ghpk and gigy. will post the pic.
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13th July 2009, 03:52	#116
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	A touch screen and a dc-dc psu are a must for trouble free integration to car. you can look at dual core atom for 5k in miniitx form.Put in a list of items you have presently, it will help in planning.
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nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 392 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	New location of my GPS. Locked the position quite fast now. Attached Thumbnails
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29th July 2009, 11:48	#118
kiran1103 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore/London Posts: 126 Thanked: Once	Nice.. Whats the GPS receiver make and model. Also did u integrate it with CF2.0 or had to load different maps specific to India?
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29th July 2009, 22:58	#119
nisarg86 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 392 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	Kiran. GPS Receiver is GlobalSAt BU-353. And yes i have purchased the Satguide Map. all you have to do is copy the Map Folder into CF Dir. and load the MAP in CF.
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29th July 2009, 23:23	#120
kiran1103 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore/London Posts: 126 Thanked: Once	Thanks Nisarg. Now is there any way that I can use the GPS receiver of Nokia N97/iPhone 3G/Blackberry Bold. All of them have Bluetooth but its the question of using their receiver to transmit the data to the Car PC. Also I understand that it will drain the battery at an alarming rate. btw I see the GlobalSat BY-353 is available for approx 3k. Hope its the right price?
	() Thanks