Indica Vista Stock ICE modification...

sushantr5 · 24th April 2009, 12:37

Hello All,

I want to modify Indica Vista ICE to have thump. Basically I do not want to change stock head unit because it is made for vista and blends with its interiors. I know this head unit is very basic and do not have any pre outs.

Now I want to have some thump in my car. So I want to fit Subwoofer with Amplifier. Now starting problem is that, how can I proceed without preouts. So somewhere I read that "speaker to line out converters" and using "low pass filters" we can facilitate input for subwoofer unit. I do not know how good this solution is? Or to have good sound quality, Do I need to change my stock head unit?

If I do this modification to my current ICE then I will not have control over subwoofer. I have to fit extra button to control subwoofer and this would be wierd. Please give me your inputs.

One more thing, I do not want to spend much on this. For subwoofer I have budget of ~Rs.4k and for Amp ~Rs.3k.

Considering costing limits, I would like to change door speakers also. Please suggest me Value for money door speakers.

Awaiting your helpful suggestions...

Thanks in advance...

greenhorn · 24th April 2009, 14:15

are you sure the stock HU doesnt have pre outs? i think it has one pair

sushantr5 · 24th April 2009, 15:37

I am not sure about number of preouts. I just heard from one dealer. How can I check whether there is preout or not? If stock head unit has one preout then it would be very nice.
Please tell me how I can check whether there is pre out or not?

greenhorn · 24th April 2009, 16:34

just remove the stock HU and check behind it.

aternately, it might be mentioned in the manual

frankmehta · 24th April 2009, 21:29

the oe clarion HU that comes in the vista is one of the worst head units ever given in a car. i would suggest against it. anyways, its not that well integrated into the center console. go for a pioneer double din like the 6050UB double din and be happy!

abhinav.gupta88 · 24th April 2009, 22:04

Actually it is a single Din with a double din front.

frankmehta · 24th April 2009, 22:18

i didnt know that. thanks abhi. you could get a single din if you want better sound quality. the kenwood 6539 or the clarion dxz785USB

abhinav.gupta88 · 24th April 2009, 22:28

I'd say Clarion.
Have heard only appreciations about it.

greenhorn · 24th April 2009, 22:30

hah, given his amp/sub budget, I'd doubt if he'd cough up the cash for the HU upgrade. And if the guy just needs some bass, let him have it and be happy with his current HU

ameenmaj · 25th April 2009, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

Actually it is a single Din with a double din front.

And it is worse than 6050.

abhinav.gupta88 · 25th April 2009, 17:43

But of course.
Stock HU's are generally not good.

sushantr5 · 27th April 2009, 11:09

I know it's worst unit. Probably it is equivalent to Rs.3k HUs from other companies. May be as you all say I should change my HU. But first let me find some fool who will buy this second hand crap from me. May be my dealer will help me in this.

I know my budget is on tighter side. But I would request you to suggest me a good entry level Sub and amplifier with decent quality.

sushantr5 · 9th May 2009, 23:13

To checkout whats behind stock ICE, I dismantled Central Console of Indica Vista. Here is the picture story...

Clarion Unit has four preouts..
front left and right
non fader Rear left and right.

frankmehta · 9th May 2009, 23:39

oh its a single din HU with a facade of a 2 din HU!
clever clever tata.
buddy, there are 2 preouts, one for the front and the other for the rear speaker or the subwoofer.
id suggest you keep the unit for the time being, and add the amplifier/s and component speakers (front stage and sub stage)
just in case you DONT enjoy this head unit, then only should you change it.
2 preouts on a stock head unit is respectable. in fact commendable!

karankapoor · 9th May 2009, 23:45

that's very rare to have preouts in a oe head unit, how come tata did this ?

24th April 2009, 12:37	#1
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 670 Thanked: 582 Times View My Garage	Indica Vista Stock ICE modification... Hello All, I want to modify Indica Vista ICE to have thump. Basically I do not want to change stock head unit because it is made for vista and blends with its interiors. I know this head unit is very basic and do not have any pre outs. Now I want to have some thump in my car. So I want to fit Subwoofer with Amplifier. Now starting problem is that, how can I proceed without preouts. So somewhere I read that "speaker to line out converters" and using "low pass filters" we can facilitate input for subwoofer unit. I do not know how good this solution is? Or to have good sound quality, Do I need to change my stock head unit? If I do this modification to my current ICE then I will not have control over subwoofer. I have to fit extra button to control subwoofer and this would be wierd. Please give me your inputs. One more thing, I do not want to spend much on this. For subwoofer I have budget of ~Rs.4k and for Amp ~Rs.3k. Considering costing limits, I would like to change door speakers also. Please suggest me Value for money door speakers. Awaiting your helpful suggestions... Thanks in advance...
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24th April 2009, 14:15	#2
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	are you sure the stock HU doesnt have pre outs? i think it has one pair
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24th April 2009, 15:37	#3
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 670 Thanked: 582 Times View My Garage	I am not sure about number of preouts. I just heard from one dealer. How can I check whether there is preout or not? If stock head unit has one preout then it would be very nice. Please tell me how I can check whether there is pre out or not?
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24th April 2009, 16:34	#4
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	just remove the stock HU and check behind it. aternately, it might be mentioned in the manual
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24th April 2009, 21:29	#5
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	the oe clarion HU that comes in the vista is one of the worst head units ever given in a car. i would suggest against it. anyways, its not that well integrated into the center console. go for a pioneer double din like the 6050UB double din and be happy!
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24th April 2009, 22:04	#6
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Actually it is a single Din with a double din front.
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24th April 2009, 22:18	#7
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	i didnt know that. thanks abhi. you could get a single din if you want better sound quality. the kenwood 6539 or the clarion dxz785USB
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24th April 2009, 22:28	#8
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I'd say Clarion. Have heard only appreciations about it.
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24th April 2009, 22:30	#9
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,745 Thanked: 4,402 Times View My Garage	hah, given his amp/sub budget, I'd doubt if he'd cough up the cash for the HU upgrade. And if the guy just needs some bass, let him have it and be happy with his current HU
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25th April 2009, 17:43	#11
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	But of course. Stock HU's are generally not good.
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27th April 2009, 11:09	#12
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 670 Thanked: 582 Times View My Garage	I know it's worst unit. Probably it is equivalent to Rs.3k HUs from other companies. May be as you all say I should change my HU. But first let me find some fool who will buy this second hand crap from me. May be my dealer will help me in this. I know my budget is on tighter side. But I would request you to suggest me a good entry level Sub and amplifier with decent quality.
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9th May 2009, 23:13	#13
sushantr5 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nuremberg Posts: 670 Thanked: 582 Times View My Garage	To checkout whats behind stock ICE, I dismantled Central Console of Indica Vista. Here is the picture story... Clarion Unit has four preouts.. front left and right non fader Rear left and right. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by sushantr5 : 9th May 2009 at 23:17.
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9th May 2009, 23:39	#14
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	oh its a single din HU with a facade of a 2 din HU! clever clever tata. buddy, there are 2 preouts, one for the front and the other for the rear speaker or the subwoofer. id suggest you keep the unit for the time being, and add the amplifier/s and component speakers (front stage and sub stage) just in case you DONT enjoy this head unit, then only should you change it. 2 preouts on a stock head unit is respectable. in fact commendable!
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9th May 2009, 23:45	#15
karankapoor Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in the car!!! Posts: 1,675 Thanked: 6 Times	that's very rare to have preouts in a oe head unit, how come tata did this ? Last edited by karankapoor : 10th May 2009 at 00:01.
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