ICE Upgrade for Alto - Chandigarh

chiragh_bir · 11th June 2009, 09:53

JBL 1004 now costs 9grands in grey , i would say stretch your budget a litlle and get it , am sure you won't regret later !!

and about placing amp , place it on rear parecel tray!! or custom work in boot!!

phamilyman · 11th June 2009, 10:19

abbey akshay,

you had the 5539 already - why the 6539 now?

chiragh_bir · 11th June 2009, 10:21

^^ because of ICE keeda (ice bug) ... lol !!

though it made hell lot difference in SQ and bass !!

abhibh · 11th June 2009, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by phamilyman

abbey akshay,

you had the 5539 already - why the 6539 now?

He upgraded few weeks back

Quote:

place it on rear parecel tray!! or custom work in boot!!

You want him to expose the amp ?

chiragh_bir · 11th June 2009, 13:39

if he doesn't have any problem.. work similar to ramiee's install amps on side rack !!

thelord · 15th June 2009, 02:21

Guys, sorry for going AWOL for a few days.
Was busy bringing the baby home and putting in new shoes and alloys.

Anyways, I received my Illusion Audio 4.1 components late Saturday evening, so couldn't get the install done that day.

Now am facing a small problem of sorts. The mid-woofer speakers have four mounting brackets due to which they can't be fitted as it is in Alto's dash. From the install pics I've seen at t-bhp forums, I understand that I'll have to cut two brackets for the mid-woofers to sit comfortably in the dash pocket. Now my question is, are these brackets easy to cut? I mean, will a normal installer be able to do a decent job without damaging the speaker wall?

I've seen the Blau 4" co-axials and they have a slightly easy-to-cut mechanism at the bracket joints but the Illusion Comps seem to be made of pretty solid material and there is no "easy" spot so to speak, to cut the brackets.

So, any recommended technique to get the cutting done?
Am not in a hurry. The research on tweeter placement follows next after I get the mid-wooofers ready for install

Thanks!

chiragh_bir · 15th June 2009, 10:48

no need to do any cutting.. just take it to good installer he will solve the problem for you.

Pm me your number and i will get back to you , don't worry about the install so much its pretty simple..

Just get the amp if possible JBL 1004 or atleast Blaupunkt GTA 480 or Blaupunkt MKII special..

Some pics of illusions please !

thelord · 15th June 2009, 11:33

@chiragh
Thanks bro. I'll give you a call in a couple of hours.

Here are a few pics of the Illusion components. Will post some more when I get home.

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panky12345 · 15th June 2009, 12:53

congrats thelord.. technocrat is using the same and think he's pretty happy with these. INMO, you should've gone in for 6.1

Technocrat · 15th June 2009, 15:47

Yes I have the same one but now I have shifted to 6.1 in my Alto

chiragh_bir · 15th June 2009, 16:35

Go for Blaupunkt GTA mk2 amp with 6539 or atleast 5539 head.. you will be more than satisfied..

And try Pioneer Sub in sealed box which produce more low end bass than JBL

thelord · 16th June 2009, 02:58

Thanks guys.

@panky12345
6 inchers open a lot of options for the components. But no cutting of doors, so am limited to stock 4 inch solutions.

@Technocrat
Your thread on Illusion 4.1 in an Alto helped a lot.

@chiragh
Veer, thanks a lot for recommending the shop. Very knowledgeable fellow.
Am quite confident the install will go fine.

Anyways, here are a few setups that have me confused now

Setup A
HU - Pioneer 5150B
Amp - JBL S644
Sub - JBL CS1205

Setup B
HU - Pioneer 5150B
Amp - Kenwood 8401
Sub - JBL CS1205

Setup C
HU - Kenwood 6539
Amp - Kenwood 8401
Sub - JBL CS1205

From what I've read about Blaupunkt Special MKII amp, looks like its not possible to set HPF beyond 80 Hz. For the Illusion 4 inch components, I need to set the HPF to around 110-125 hz.

My taste in music boils down to Lounge / Chill-Out genres.
I prefer SQ, and usually listen to music at moderate volume,
Bass I prefer low, soft and consistent and definitely not dominating the mids and vocals.

So is the Kenwood 8401 a better buy in my case?

For the head-unit, am getting 5150B for 7.8k and Kenwood 6539 for 8.8k. Is it worth the extra 1k?

Budget for AMP + SUB is 10k max. Any other sub that I should consider in this range?

Phew, so many options...

Technocrat · 16th June 2009, 12:49

@thelord : Glad to be of help, even if indirectly

amit_mechengg · 16th June 2009, 13:11

you need to cut the 2 diagonal ears for fitting them in alto. its a easy job. you could have asked B&T to cut them and send it to you

nice choice of ICE. but you will want more as time goes on. have a look at my ice in the alto too.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...d-nice-sq.html

abhibh · 16th June 2009, 13:18

i would go with Setup C. Get a sealed enclosure.

11th June 2009, 09:53	#16
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	JBL 1004 now costs 9grands in grey , i would say stretch your budget a litlle and get it , am sure you won't regret later !! and about placing amp , place it on rear parecel tray!! or custom work in boot!! Last edited by chiragh_bir : 11th June 2009 at 09:55.
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11th June 2009, 10:19	#17
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,975 Thanked: 4,675 Times	abbey akshay, you had the 5539 already - why the 6539 now?
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11th June 2009, 10:21	#18
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	^^ because of ICE keeda (ice bug) ... lol !! though it made hell lot difference in SQ and bass !!
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11th June 2009, 13:39	#20
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	if he doesn't have any problem.. work similar to ramiee's install amps on side rack !!
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15th June 2009, 02:21	#21
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	Guys, sorry for going AWOL for a few days. Was busy bringing the baby home and putting in new shoes and alloys. Anyways, I received my Illusion Audio 4.1 components late Saturday evening, so couldn't get the install done that day. Now am facing a small problem of sorts. The mid-woofer speakers have four mounting brackets due to which they can't be fitted as it is in Alto's dash. From the install pics I've seen at t-bhp forums, I understand that I'll have to cut two brackets for the mid-woofers to sit comfortably in the dash pocket. Now my question is, are these brackets easy to cut? I mean, will a normal installer be able to do a decent job without damaging the speaker wall? I've seen the Blau 4" co-axials and they have a slightly easy-to-cut mechanism at the bracket joints but the Illusion Comps seem to be made of pretty solid material and there is no "easy" spot so to speak, to cut the brackets. So, any recommended technique to get the cutting done? Am not in a hurry. The research on tweeter placement follows next after I get the mid-wooofers ready for install Thanks!
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15th June 2009, 10:48	#22
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	no need to do any cutting.. just take it to good installer he will solve the problem for you. Pm me your number and i will get back to you , don't worry about the install so much its pretty simple.. Just get the amp if possible JBL 1004 or atleast Blaupunkt GTA 480 or Blaupunkt MKII special.. Some pics of illusions please ! Last edited by chiragh_bir : 15th June 2009 at 10:52.
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15th June 2009, 11:33	#23
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	@chiragh Thanks bro. I'll give you a call in a couple of hours. Here are a few pics of the Illusion components. Will post some more when I get home.
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15th June 2009, 12:53	#24
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 172 Times	congrats thelord.. technocrat is using the same and think he's pretty happy with these. INMO, you should've gone in for 6.1
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15th June 2009, 15:47	#25
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,765 Thanked: 2,705 Times	Yes I have the same one but now I have shifted to 6.1 in my Alto
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15th June 2009, 16:35	#26
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	Go for Blaupunkt GTA mk2 amp with 6539 or atleast 5539 head.. you will be more than satisfied.. And try Pioneer Sub in sealed box which produce more low end bass than JBL Last edited by chiragh_bir : 15th June 2009 at 16:38.
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16th June 2009, 02:58	#27
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	Thanks guys. @panky12345 6 inchers open a lot of options for the components. But no cutting of doors, so am limited to stock 4 inch solutions. @Technocrat Your thread on Illusion 4.1 in an Alto helped a lot. @chiragh Veer, thanks a lot for recommending the shop. Very knowledgeable fellow. Am quite confident the install will go fine. Anyways, here are a few setups that have me confused now Setup A HU - Pioneer 5150B Amp - JBL S644 Sub - JBL CS1205 Setup B HU - Pioneer 5150B Amp - Kenwood 8401 Sub - JBL CS1205 Setup C HU - Kenwood 6539 Amp - Kenwood 8401 Sub - JBL CS1205 From what I've read about Blaupunkt Special MKII amp, looks like its not possible to set HPF beyond 80 Hz. For the Illusion 4 inch components, I need to set the HPF to around 110-125 hz. My taste in music boils down to Lounge / Chill-Out genres. I prefer SQ, and usually listen to music at moderate volume, Bass I prefer low, soft and consistent and definitely not dominating the mids and vocals. So is the Kenwood 8401 a better buy in my case? For the head-unit, am getting 5150B for 7.8k and Kenwood 6539 for 8.8k. Is it worth the extra 1k? Budget for AMP + SUB is 10k max. Any other sub that I should consider in this range? Phew, so many options...
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16th June 2009, 12:49	#28
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,765 Thanked: 2,705 Times	@thelord : Glad to be of help, even if indirectly
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16th June 2009, 13:11	#29
amit_mechengg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 2,488 Thanked: 2,263 Times View My Garage	you need to cut the 2 diagonal ears for fitting them in alto. its a easy job. you could have asked B&T to cut them and send it to you nice choice of ICE. but you will want more as time goes on. have a look at my ice in the alto too. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...d-nice-sq.html
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16th June 2009, 13:18	#30
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	i would go with Setup C. Get a sealed enclosure.
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