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jkdas · 11th October 2005, 19:38

sam 4 u

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showpo...3&postcount=33

jkdas · 11th October 2005, 22:58

does subs come in big cardboard boxes? vivek, what wil u do if tehy dont come in big boxes?

@ maclaren and sam..that was fun pulling navins legs.

Sam Kapasi · 11th October 2005, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

does subs come in big cardboard boxes? vivek, what wil u do if tehy dont come in big boxes?

@ maclaren and sam..that was fun pulling navins legs.

HAHAHA
It doesn't happen quite often, but nice that the old man is a sport... lol

jkdas · 12th October 2005, 00:00

Sam, CS200.1 aint available in india right? it was kind of cheap...

also see :
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=232

Sam Kapasi · 12th October 2005, 00:26

CS200.1 is not sold in Asia/Europe.

The GTO301.1/ 601.1/ 1200.1/2200.1 are the monoblocks we sell in India.

navin · 12th October 2005, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

HAHAHA
It doesn't happen quite often, but nice that the old man is a sport... lol

thanks guys. I will take this as a sign of endearment. but dont say you weren't warned. Sam lost his 2000th post. Wonder what mclaren will loose! LOL ha ha ha

mclaren1885 · 12th October 2005, 11:46

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Originally Posted by navin

thanks guys. I will take this as a sign of endearment. but dont say you weren't warned. Sam lost his 2000th post. Wonder what mclaren will loose! LOL ha ha ha

i will certainly loose my brains if ur answers get more complicated than ever before

..so all that u got to do is be urself to get back on on me..

jkdas · 12th October 2005, 13:24

some boxes by sony
http://www.sonyxplod.co.uk/category.asp?category=431

for sub
http://www.sonyxplod.co.uk/category.asp?category=292
vivek tahts 4 u

navin · 12th October 2005, 16:33

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

i will certainly loose my brains if ur answers get more complicated than ever before

..so all that u got to do is be urself to get back on on me..

ohhh mclarn buddy you are not getting off so lightly. sam's 2000th post was only the tip of his icerbeg. it will get colder before the storm hits :-) LOL ha haha

navin · 13th October 2005, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Navin? We're waiting for your expertise...

This CCTB thing got me thinking. Yesterday was a holiday and while doing groceries I remembered this thing called MAPD. Some of you may have heard about this.

Now since I dont joke around with speaker theory I am posting a link here.
http://www.northcreekmusic.com/MAPD1.htm

I think this can offer a small box with decent LF response. By decent I mean non peaky.

This will be of use to DIYers like Vivek.

Vivekphadnis · 13th October 2005, 11:30

I read the article. Interesting stuff. This could be good thing to try out if the Vas is low and I get a woofer with low Xmax.

aseem · 13th October 2005, 16:51

Hi Guys,
Now that my setup for the Swift is up and running. I want to focus on my next problem.... my 11 month old Esteem. To be honest after owning the Swift, I hardly drive my Esteem. It drives like a desi car.... My parents are on my ass to ship the Esteem to my brother and get his Getz in return from Chandigarh, as my mom doesnt drive the Esteem (Mental block of a big car!). So since I am mostly driving the Swift, Esteem is just lieing at home unused. Another reason why I am not driving the Esteem is that I am in love with the music of my Swift. Its a stress buster... However the system in my Esteem is quite shady.. (local). So I am willing to invest 5-10k on my Esteem's existing system so that at least I can drive both cars and not waste the money I spent buying Esteem.

Here is the existing configuration:
1) Sony Explod 3300! ---- bought for 6k---- now sucks, cant read all MP3's :(
2) Front Kenwood Local---800Rs 4" Speakers----Suck big time (soundstage is rear)
3) Rear Ovals Pioneer 2 way---2.5k----Quite ok for the price
4) Subwoofer---Pioneer 305 for 3k at that time (now 2.2k) mounted on a wooden (non-mdf) tray (lacks steam now) bass is very muddy and non defined.
5) 2 channel local Alpine amplifier.... It SUCKS!

See before listening to my Swift, I was quite happy with my system. However off late I had noticed that the system has run out of steam. It sounds like an Asthama patient, being overworked..... So I have decided to upgrade it and looking for possible ideas!

1) I am considering what speakers to go up front??? JBL 5" co-axials??? will they fit? How? possible cutting the car?(will have difficulty convincing fokls) .... I also have JBL 636 already purchased which I can use if I know how to fit.... would this be possible?
Anyways, budget would be 3k!

2) Sony 504, 4 channel amp, I will use this to drive the front and rear speakers.
3.5k

3) Now what should I do for the sub? When I state that the bass is muddy and non defined, does that mean my sub has gone bad.... or is it because of the tray its mounted on is not made correctly. I love the kick I get from my sealed enclosure in the Swift made from MDF, however after reading JB's post, it seems that I would need a lot more power from the amp to get a sealed setup to work from the trunk of the car. I can also consider a ported box.... will that help? Or do u suggest a new tray made from MDF for the same sub and speakers..... Should I consider upgrading the sub by selling it? I plan to use the existing Alpine amp for the sub!

4) Should I consider changing the HU, the current hu sucks. I dont even know if it has 3 pre-outs? Its not reading MP3s... however I am not sure if how much will I get for it if I sell it... is 2.5k reasonable trade in cost? Should I consider Sony 5510 for 5.5k?

So total budget:
HU: 3k
Sub Tray/Box: 1k
Sony 504: 3.5k
Front Ovals: 3k
============
10.5 + labor+ wires
=============

Pretty close to what I can afford.... Guys/Pros/Freinds/Foes please chip in your suggestions keeping my existing setup and budget in mind

navin · 13th October 2005, 22:35

the prices you post aseem are quite optimistic. I cant see those prices in mumbai.

BTW the front speakers are round not ovals (typo?). I dont think you gonna get more than a 4" in the esteem dash.

One option is to consider a 3 way using a door mounted 6" woofer and a 4" 2way in the dash. You can think out of the box here. hint: if you had a pair of 606 instead of the 636 it would have be easier.

you seem to be quite adept of solving your own problems so I think you can take it from here! :-)

Sam Kapasi · 14th October 2005, 11:46

Aseem,
Even I often want to ask you, baba, where do you get these nice, low prices from? Is New Delhi so much more cheaper than Mumbai?

SoundManiac · 14th October 2005, 11:52

Saala! I paid Rs 4500/- for a sony 504! The lowest i could get froma diff dealer was 4250/-. And Aseem gets it for 3500/-!!!

Kya, yeh chakkar kya hai bbhaiyya?

11th October 2005, 19:38	#2011
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	sam 4 u http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showpo...3&postcount=33
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11th October 2005, 22:58	#2012
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	does subs come in big cardboard boxes? vivek, what wil u do if tehy dont come in big boxes? @ maclaren and sam..that was fun pulling navins legs.
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12th October 2005, 00:00	#2014
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Sam, CS200.1 aint available in india right? it was kind of cheap... also see : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=232
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12th October 2005, 00:26	#2015
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,483 Times View My Garage	CS200.1 is not sold in Asia/Europe. The GTO301.1/ 601.1/ 1200.1/2200.1 are the monoblocks we sell in India.
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12th October 2005, 13:24	#2018
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	some boxes by sony http://www.sonyxplod.co.uk/category.asp?category=431 for sub http://www.sonyxplod.co.uk/category.asp?category=292 vivek tahts 4 u
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13th October 2005, 11:30	#2021
Vivekphadnis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 690 Thanked: 2 Times	I read the article. Interesting stuff. This could be good thing to try out if the Vas is low and I get a woofer with low Xmax.
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13th October 2005, 16:51	#2022
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 443 Times	Hi Guys, Now that my setup for the Swift is up and running. I want to focus on my next problem.... my 11 month old Esteem. To be honest after owning the Swift, I hardly drive my Esteem. It drives like a desi car.... My parents are on my ass to ship the Esteem to my brother and get his Getz in return from Chandigarh, as my mom doesnt drive the Esteem (Mental block of a big car!). So since I am mostly driving the Swift, Esteem is just lieing at home unused. Another reason why I am not driving the Esteem is that I am in love with the music of my Swift. Its a stress buster... However the system in my Esteem is quite shady.. (local). So I am willing to invest 5-10k on my Esteem's existing system so that at least I can drive both cars and not waste the money I spent buying Esteem. Here is the existing configuration: 1) Sony Explod 3300! ---- bought for 6k---- now sucks, cant read all MP3's :( 2) Front Kenwood Local---800Rs 4" Speakers----Suck big time (soundstage is rear) 3) Rear Ovals Pioneer 2 way---2.5k----Quite ok for the price 4) Subwoofer---Pioneer 305 for 3k at that time (now 2.2k) mounted on a wooden (non-mdf) tray (lacks steam now) bass is very muddy and non defined. 5) 2 channel local Alpine amplifier.... It SUCKS! See before listening to my Swift, I was quite happy with my system. However off late I had noticed that the system has run out of steam. It sounds like an Asthama patient, being overworked..... So I have decided to upgrade it and looking for possible ideas! 1) I am considering what speakers to go up front??? JBL 5" co-axials??? will they fit? How? possible cutting the car?(will have difficulty convincing fokls) .... I also have JBL 636 already purchased which I can use if I know how to fit.... would this be possible? Anyways, budget would be 3k! 2) Sony 504, 4 channel amp, I will use this to drive the front and rear speakers. 3.5k 3) Now what should I do for the sub? When I state that the bass is muddy and non defined, does that mean my sub has gone bad.... or is it because of the tray its mounted on is not made correctly. I love the kick I get from my sealed enclosure in the Swift made from MDF, however after reading JB's post, it seems that I would need a lot more power from the amp to get a sealed setup to work from the trunk of the car. I can also consider a ported box.... will that help? Or do u suggest a new tray made from MDF for the same sub and speakers..... Should I consider upgrading the sub by selling it? I plan to use the existing Alpine amp for the sub! 4) Should I consider changing the HU, the current hu sucks. I dont even know if it has 3 pre-outs? Its not reading MP3s... however I am not sure if how much will I get for it if I sell it... is 2.5k reasonable trade in cost? Should I consider Sony 5510 for 5.5k? So total budget: HU: 3k Sub Tray/Box: 1k Sony 504: 3.5k Front Ovals: 3k ============ 10.5 + labor+ wires ============= Pretty close to what I can afford.... Guys/Pros/Freinds/Foes please chip in your suggestions keeping my existing setup and budget in mind
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13th October 2005, 22:35	#2023
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,421 Thanked: 9,998 Times	the prices you post aseem are quite optimistic. I cant see those prices in mumbai. BTW the front speakers are round not ovals (typo?). I dont think you gonna get more than a 4" in the esteem dash. One option is to consider a 3 way using a door mounted 6" woofer and a 4" 2way in the dash. You can think out of the box here. hint: if you had a pair of 606 instead of the 636 it would have be easier. you seem to be quite adept of solving your own problems so I think you can take it from here! :-)
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14th October 2005, 11:46	#2024
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,483 Times View My Garage	Aseem, Even I often want to ask you, baba, where do you get these nice, low prices from? Is New Delhi so much more cheaper than Mumbai?
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14th October 2005, 11:52	#2025
SoundManiac BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 171 Thanked: 80 Times	Saala! I paid Rs 4500/- for a sony 504! The lowest i could get froma diff dealer was 4250/-. And Aseem gets it for 3500/-!!! Kya, yeh chakkar kya hai bbhaiyya?
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